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I agree with you, and also, I'm frustrated by what might have been with just a few small changes. It seems repetitive at the moment. And to kill off one of the best characters, while the nutsy eye guy continues (who I like fine, he just doesn't have any depth), seems like a poor choice. Like others, I struggle this season because i don't care if any character is killed. Usually there is someone in Fargo who you empathize with, and hope finds a way out. This season, they are all equally annoying in some way, except Doctor Senator, who represented a number of things about being Black in that era, leadership and wisdom. But then they killed him, so ... And not buying Chris Rock. I liked his speech a few eps back about the bankroll of money and what it does to people who don't have it. I think he works better as being mentally cruel. When he sat at the dinner table, with the kid eating cake, and said he would spray the couple around the house and wait for their daughter to come home, I just kept thinking I don't see a gun, and there are two of them and one of him, and he isn't particularly imposing. He should leave the physical violence to others.

I think it is hilarious that so many of these comments are from people from Montreal, which is French-Canadian and French people are stereotyped as whiney complainers, complaining about how inauthentic the skit was.

For a while last night, I had no idea what I was watching. Midway through Issa's monologue I gave up and googled her, as I had no idea who she was. Then the Bonjour skit seemed to be aimed at a tiny slice of the viewing audience. I didn't get the whole "titty meat" thing (I can do crude humor, but that was just kind of obnoxious). And then I realized I had been excited because when I heard "Justin Bieber" my mind replaced him with "Justin Timberlake," and I was hoping for one of those skits where Timberlake dresses as a cup of soup ... and then Bieber came out and I realized what I had done, and was sad. The cold open seemed half baked. I did love the segue to Mr Rogers, and then Bob Ross. They basically capture how many people feel about Biden ... doesn't matter what he says or doesn't say, we need some normalcy and empathy. He can surround himself with good people. WU seemed to set things right again. Until I had to google "Lexington Steele."I missed Eric. "I ... was muted." The KA Conway joke was great.And then I had no idea who the photo was for the ring-tailed lemur, so back to confusion. "Was that voice blackfaced?" Awesome. Shot statue 15 times? Awesome. Then I gave up and went to bed.

My favorite episode. An actual plot, lots of ST references, great cameos and just fun all around as well as the death of a character. I still can't believe no one had figured out Freeman was Mariner's mom (what captain would put up with Mariner's crap without some hidden connection), but I went with it. I *will* say this ep was closer to orville than the others. But smarter than Orville. Also, I didn't care for the self-centered floating robot lifeform.

Not the only fan! And for the record, I loved the long Enterprise flyby in ST:TMP. The show had been off the air for more than a decade, it was fantastic seeing Enterprise again! And so I chuckled at this tribute with the Cerritos. Discovery had this exact same situation and blew by this issue, which has always annoyed me. Am I the only person who assumed everyone already know Mariner's mom was the captain? The ending was sort of like The Sixth Sense to me, when the big reveal happened and I had thought everyone knew that all along and didn't get that it was a reveal.

The WU bit? It was tedious for me. It's one thing if people break. It's another to keep saying the same thing over and over and laugh at yourself. It was a little Andy Kaufman-ish for me, not in any sort of genius, but in its lack of any meaning. I like Burr's comedy stand up and have seen all of them. He was playing it safe on SNL, given the broader audience. I think it caused him to hesitate a bit and shift gears here and there, which isn't his forte. His standup is actually better. It's rough, but like all good comedy, it has truth in it.

Agree. I groan when she comes on the screen. I hope we see some direction from her besides killing. Maybe she can help dopey criminal beat his more violent brother. If he is the crazy violent brother, I kind of like him. But his character is being restrained. They need to let him off leash.

First, I was thankful SNL was on and big props for everyone on the show giving it a go. This ain't easy when there *isn't* a pandemic. The audience was definitely flat. I guess I don't blame them, given the circumstances. Probably desperate to be out, and laugh at SNL, and terrified at the risk it posed. I loved the embarrassing names skit, and just wish there had been more names. I was surprised at the NBA bubble skit - very surprised. Didn't think that kind of skit would fly in today's #metoo world, whether it was based on truth or not. Also, just on a personal note, I didn't like that they spent any time on people who were into cheating with and gold digging from NBA players. Carey's Biden was interesting. He really nailed the set of the face and the voice. But then sometimes he would become a bit too manic to be Biden. I didn't know there was an actual Drew Barrymore talk show, and that the set looked like the show. The whole skit I kept wondering why they were doing it. It was one long, spacy Drew skit for me.

Exactly right, and I think I like Mariner more as a result. Not all of us aspire to be captain. She is a tad immature in how she expresses it, but I respect the fact she finds glory hounds annoying and likes a simpler existence.

Agree. I'm a sucker for antiseptic worlds of the future that are supposed to be better than ours but aren't. And I really liked learning about their society, though I could have done with fewer orgies. I liked the power structure and the way some of the jostling among alphas resembled today's corporate world. I do think John's interest in monogamy reflected the values of "old Earth." However, I thought he should have been more understanding of the world Lenina comes from. He can't expect her to throw that yoke off all at once. And I admit I have no idea what the founders are about. An intelligent AI was created by them and took over? Maybe? Could have done without them, TBH. But I will say I liked the ending. So much tragedy. This show ended the season more West World than West World.

It's unfortunate the series took a turn toward who lurves who. The concept of rebellion and free will is much more interesting. John's view on Lurleina having sex with others seems pretty primitive and patriarchal. His focus should be on the sacrifices she has to make as a beta. She even made an eloquent speech about it in part one. Bernard vs. John for control of a woman isn't very interesting or appropriate. The E's asking questions, and the origin of the system and its creators, is more interesting.

I know you meant that as a light-hearted aside, and took it that way. I'll just say that I expect more from this show, and TV I like in general. It's OK if *individual characters" are dicks at times. But to have one specific type of character be a dick no matter who it is ... that's no different than 70s shows depicting all young women as bimbos. This show is better than that. Like I said, everyone is a dick sometimes. But every straight white male isn't, and should not be, depicted as a dick. It has gotten to the point that when any new straight white male character comes on screen I'm just waiting to see what kind of jerk he is.

This show made a mistake (and maybe it was a budget thing) focusing so much on the real Earth and people who aren't much different than our real life, instead of exploring the actual Brave New World. It's a meh uprising. Finally fast forwarded through a lot of the stuff from the checkpoint to the actual entry through the barrier. Though I did hear the cringy "this is our land" uttered by what appeared to be a white woman who lives on what I assume is the Earth and probably North America, so..... It's not clear to me why the Savage Lands park exists or why the people who are in the "old days" show do the show. I had assumed it was a living, for people who didn't have many choices. So not sure why the rebel woman saying they are no longer there for the amusement of the privilege said that. Can't they just not do the show? At least we are back in the interesting place. John isn't helping himself any by acting like the stereotype they expect. I guess we are supposed to feel for him because he is "authentic" and authentic people are super emotional and feeling, because to live you have to feel, blah blah blah. When he cracks the glass of the room/Brave New World society, that was a bit of an anvil. Gave it three eps. Will try one more to see if it breaks out of the cliches and tropes it has bound itself in.

This kind of stuff is interesting. It is a shame it gets put aside for the "Savage Land rebellion." They should have spent 3 eps or so simply showing the future society and letting us see and contemplate the pluses and minuses of it. THEN they could have shown seeds of the rebellion. Very little interest in the rebellion or "the movement."

Meh. It started out promising, with the culture of tomorrow. Lots of room there to raise questions about whether these changes are good or bad for society and individuals. But before we explored that, the show introduced a lame "but there is an underclass" plot that was cliched and disappointing.

Finally finished season 3. Thought about it, and for what it was the ending was touching and well done, but I am not a fan of introducing a whole new explanation at the very end that we have never seen nor suspected throughout the series. You *might* have wondered at some point , but there was no reason to suspect it. And what we learn in the last episode is critical to the whole show. Cheap trick.

I'm not an NBA fan, but I found The Last Dance fascinating due to info about the league, other teams and Jordan's team. That era was the last time I watched the NBA. I saw the Bad Boys of Detroit, Larry Bird's Celtics, the Knicks and I knew quite a bit about Reggie Miller's Pacers. All of those stories were fascinating, as well as the fact that Jordan was a stone cold killer on the floor. Today he would average in the mid 40s or higher. They could have reduce it by a couple of episodes, but I really enjoyed it.

Correct. So why isn't there a forum for Dark? In which could be placed threads?

How are there not episode threads for Dark? How hard is it to create that? Anyway, through S3, E4. I have to admit I’ve lost track of who is where and the various relationships. I can follow the general gist. IMO the show is unnecessarily convoluted. So many people commented on the music. You can tell when music is poorly chosen... it takes you out of the show (like I experience on Hannah). This show feels a lot like Man in the High Castle to me, and the music does as well.

What exactly did Trish do to pull Jessica out of the reporter crowd? It looked like she had one of Batman's toys. Did she shoot something and that pulled them up? Where did she get it? Did she actually jump? If she jumped that high, with Jessica in her arms, then whoa, that superpower is getting more powerful by the episode.

That scene made no sense to me, except to serve as a cathartic release to viewers. Sallinger was never going to out wrestle Jessica, based on strength alone. So basically he goaded her, and she fell for it, and yay, she threw him around as anyone would expect. I figured he would have hidden cameras to capture it and claim she was mean to him. Also, why did his students cheer? From what we saw, he seemed to be a decent teacher. He provided advice calmly, and he had a lot of kids in the class. So a powered person throws their teacher around and they ... cheer? This whole season has been like this. Trish's slow-burn powers is another example. If you want that scene to make sense, at least show Sallinger making cutting, hurtful remarks to the kids as he instructs them.

This is the *first time* I've seen Trish do something that could be defined as an actual power. It would have been good to see this 3 eps ago. I am enjoying the villain, but I wish we would see him to more villainy.

Thanks for the spoiler marked info. Good to see what she becomes. My issue has been that right now, at this point of the season, it isn't clear what powers Trish has. In fact, until Jessica all we can see is some decent body control. With someone in Trish's shape, with her years of training, that could be as much superior shape as a "power." I don't care much what her powers are, I just would like to see them as actual powers. It's been weird to have so much discussion about her powers, Trish wanting to use them to help people, etc., and I just keep asking, "What powers, exactly?"

Yeah, late to this (bored during pandemic), but I came here to see if anyone caught something I don't, i.e. what exactly are Trish's super powers? I still don't know. She is 40 and has the reflexes of someone who is 20? That seems more like Tom Brady than Capt America.

Whoever produced the baseball home run episode was way too caught up in whatever "field of dreams" shit that people who love baseball revere. That '98 home run chase was about dudes who were juicing (i.e. cheating) breaking a record because they were juicing. You wouldn't know it from this 30 on 30. Admittedly I fast forwarded it because the reverence was maddening, but juicing didn't come up util almost halfway through so I quit watching and deleted it. Up until then, it had been every cliche you could think of ... Mark McGwire talking about the "baseball gods" and not getting cocky, the Cubs/Cardinals rivalry ("they want the Cards to win - and the Cubs to lose!"), the "mental pressure" of the chase, comparing it to the Beatles. Good god. The entire chase was A FRAUD. That should have been the story from the opening minutes, the betrayal of sports that the HR chase was and the embarrassment of all involved. Ugh. After the wonderfulness of The Last Dance, two completely lacking 30 on 30s in a row.