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actually i just finished the first season and i still stick by what i predicted, lol. sorry if it offends anyone though. it's not that i don't like the show though, as i said before. the characters are pretty appealing and all. but who knows, maybe the future seasons will change my mind ;) no, it's fine^^

i know it's a television show and things aren't realistic and things must be hurried along, but i don't think this rape case was handled right. it was done correctly from up to the point of when jaimie was rescued but i had massive disapproval when claire was slapping and screaming at him. now, i know she is from the '40s, which means she doesn't know about PTSD yet and in fact her friend who was from an even futher future than her wouldn't have known about it (PTSD was diagnosed in the 80's), but i still felt massively uncomfortable watching it. the entire scene was so wrong to me. even with claire not knowing about PTSD, that wouldn't change jaimie from acting like he had it. i have a dear, dear soul as my close friend who was molested and even potentially raped, and having claire's reaction would only make jaimie shrink further into himself. and there is no way in the world he would have cared if claire said she would die alongside him. okay, i worded that wrong. he would have. but he's broken, he doesn't have any heart left to help anyone anymore. it's not about how much he loves her, it's not about how much she loves him. he may be able to take control of his life later on, but literally a day after the whole thing happened? i'm inches away from calling out the massive soccer mom tropes but as i said in the beginning, this is television and it's not 100% real. but for pete's sake would it have killed the writers to make jaimie cry (i'm not talking about in the rape but afterwards)? to scream when he first confused claire with jack instead of strangling her? because those would have been more correct reactions. i wonder if the gender was reversed....would they write a woman getting over her horrific rape even 1% just a day after she was raped? and honestly when jaimie's half-father, half-friend said to her, "He's been tortured....raped...wouldn't that be enough to kill yourself?" and she just spat "No" i would have snapped her neck then and there. this is when i don't give a crap about her being from the '40s. they could have cut that part out of the episode, definitely. who the fck is she to judge. and i don't care that she was almost raped 272836399483x in the season (which i am sure it will happen again and again in the whole series), people handle things differently; especially abuse, especially sexual abuse. not everyone is her. i'm not trying to change anyone's views on this episode and how the rape was handled (i'm sure that it will continue for at least one more season before it's totally dealt with). if anyone feels differently, great, that's you and that's wonderful. but those are my views and my experiences and i'm not changing them. ------ okay. besides all that. now i have some questions i have been keeping to myself the whole season. claire hasn't even known jaimie a year and yet she loves him more than her husband, (apparently)????? just how seems petty, but i just gotta point it out. jaimie recently revealed he's 40. the show is trying to convince me he was a 4 decade old virgin before claire??? lmao are we just supposed to toss real jack over the ship into the water like claire has? or will the plot keep going forward in the future seasons? any chance gaellis is alive? ;_; what about jaimie's sister? she must be worried sick lol. they hopefully mail her a letter later on~ i still don't understand. jaimie was on temporary exile with his uncle right? how did he happen to rescue claire from the witch trial? i was waiting for some explanation but it never came up. that's all i have now, maybe i'll remember some more later.

i'm not insulting anyone, in fact i was talking about myself if i was insulting anyone. so i apologize if there are any hard feelings. i'm not necessarily insulting the show either, considering i'm still watching it rn. i was just viewing it in an objective way of what others would have thought of it. but i'm liking it so far :)

whoever plays geillis is so breathtakingly beautiful. i usually hate long hair - and her's is especially very long - but she is absolutely beautiful in it. she fits it perfectly, showing her cheekbones and fragile face, the way she flings her hair out of her face...omg i'm a lesbian lol! anyway she will be missed. rip. i don't understand why claire didn't go to jack, but then again i kind of do? surely she knew jack longer than jaimie. but maybe she would have a sort of fear or guiltiness or even shame in going back to him. but i really don't think that would be enough for her to leave her entire world. surely she has family and friends in london , not just her hub. and she owes it to everyone to show that she's still alive. she doesn't need to say sje time traveld but still. lastly i know that claire is a strong personality but she really needs to stop being ao disrespectful of olden culture. the way she kept brushing gei away "I'm sMarT yOu'rE DuMb" really got on my nerves.

it's not very appealing on the plot/story side, and that the show is very impossibly "pretty" as in princessy, damsel in distress like. it's clear that no matter where the story goes it's just sex on TV.

parts i liked: omg the marriage ceremony. i'm not a huge romantic but i am such a sucker for marriage, the ceremony, the man and wife. i know this wasn't done in love, but i just imagined another pair that was in love and it fit just fine. and when jamie explained what the gaelic meant, with the symbolic wrist cutting. lawd i dang near fainted. so beautiful. so happy i learned that beautiful piece of scottish culture (although i'm sure it's changed now). claire's dress was beautiful of course, as well. and that kiss she gave jaimie! dear me, i'm a sucker for kisses so. jaimie immediately stopping mid "swing" at claire's cries: "Oh, did I hurt you? I'm sorry..." and "I thought my heart was going to burst!" PLEASE. JAIMIE. ENOUGH. MY HEART. parts i didn't like (or more precisely, couldn't watch) firstly i don't understand the sex. i mean why didn't they just lie and say they did it? it's not like the others could bring up any proof they didn't. secondly, i probably watched 10% of the actual sex because i was too busy cowering in what i believe half cringe, half shame, maybe? i know i have major problems with associating anything sexual with shame but that's another story for another century. ANYWAY my real point is that i was deliberately not looking because well, i just see them as two friends screwing each other. it was just plain awkward for me. claire and her husband scenes - no problems. claire and jaime - ehhh sorry fam. they can feel whatever they want about each other and the show can tell the audience that. but i felt like the whole time it was like i was forced to sleep with my brother's friend. no thanks. i was aching for the episode to switch to the daytime, and the plot would finally begin again. i didn't like that jaimie had the first out of three rounds. especially since he half joked "I hope you know what you're doing", i expected for claire to do everything. "teach" him if you will. but i guess claire wanted to let jaimie get in on his first try so i don't feel that too bad about it. i also couldn't help but get sucked in and out of the episode as the same time. the wedding was beautiful, she finally gave into the sex, but she really is so alone. she has no family, no friends from the other side, nothing. she tossed all that aside for round 2 and 3 but the first round she couldn't shake it and even when she did it left me thinking about it as well. i was thinking a lot about the episode, in fact, since a lot pf the episode was nudity and sex, which i said beforehand i barely watched. random so i'm putting in spoiler: none of the eps are worth a rewatch for me so far but i would definitely rewatch that marriage ceremony, even though claire ruins it by being sad (just kidding she deserves to feel what she feels). i'm not hating on the episode at all in case anyone sees it that way. these are just my muffed up feelings on the matter. now i must go to bed. P.S., thanks a lot, i love deleted scenes on TV shows and movies and try to scrape them up from anywhere i go.

the whipping scene was brutal, and made me think of all the times that happened and more when the british took over the US. how horrendous. i had predicted in the back of my mind that jack was lying/playing with her, which really kinda gets on my nerves now? that scene was like 20-30 minutes long. seems like a cop out of writing and screen time if you ask me. but then again the book could have had this scene so therefore the show could be not to blame. what's up with the story making dougal look redeemable or something? he's a sexual harasser/potential rapist. he's cancelled forever. i hope he dies in the future. i stared wordlessly in shock the whole time when jaime (the accents were so thick i thought he was called jimmy until i saw people calling him that in the threads) announced his purity to the credits. i'm in such a shock i'm actually denying it out front. he looks like he's what, 24-26???????? it's just too unbelievable. so all he has done all this time is just kiss girls (like in the castle) his ENTIRE two decade+ life? uh uh. not getting past me. he's a LIAR, end of story. i usually go along with a lot in this show but this has to be the one soccer mom step taken TOO far. whether he is telling the truth or not, why did claire drink even more? i don't get it. literally liked your entire post because of the parentheses. lol.

looking at the first episode again in 3-4yrs and looking at thomas for the first time in a long time it made me think funny, i was thinking about this as well. the rape story was just extra drama and was useless imo.

i don't interpret sam's claiming his and dean's likeliness that way. and if he did, then okay i can't do anything about that. and i'm not saying dean should let the people he cares about run free with no protection, but he wouldn't even let them all go out to eat. would there have been a danger having a small family outing? there could have been and there could have been not. what my point is that john and dean were very much alike when it came to protecting their family. not that he was transforming into john, heavens no! lol

yes DittyDot, Katy explained what i meant. that's all^^

i knew were really great friends even before i knew a literal thing about the show lol, i just wanted to make sure, in case they had a small fall out of a "friend" fight. in either case thank you :)

i feel like such a soccer mom watching this even though i'm only 20 lmao

what a disgusting and cruel father. lying to his daughter on how they were "dreams", oh my God. and poor johnny, witnessing those trash policemen and them having the nerve at trying to get rid of him. he looked so frightened when strange ran after him.the climax and ended within 4 minutes, my head is spinning. what a snake deare was, taking the scarf! although i had him under my suspicions. the worst part was watching the affect of everyone. monica straining her eyes to see a tiny sign of her BF, the utter depressing aura in the thursday house, but especially peter, poor darling. now it makes sense, him flinching at his dead master. him sitting catatonic in the corner of the bar, trying not to feel but feeling nonetheless. so sad. sad all around. ------ BUT i'm glad i got the monica-morse moments though! "What if I wasn't a policeman any more?" "What would you do instead?" "I don't know. Teacher, maybe. We could go abroad." "We?" "Why not? People do. Couples." *intense blushing of monica ensues* and him wearing the scarf (before it was stolen ofc) made him look SO CUTE. i loved every minute of seeing it on him. ....which makes this ending that much more horrible. he was going to leave with monica, go see the world, possibly marry her...it would have been PERFECT! but now everything is messed up because of those trash pedophiles. their relationship will probably crumble. tragedies like this change a person a lot and can wreck the relationship. i'm NOT happy about this prediction! i love them so.

i always thought of it as just a running "friend" thing they do together. -------- fred really is such a complex likeable character. he not only kept visiting his past love as a duty but because he never ever forgot her. but he knew about the line he could not cross, there was no need for anyone to actually say it, it was very clear. i also like how the deep history runs through the show; morse's past with the army, his ex fiance, oxford, his relationship with fred and how that started, his relationship with his family, then there's fred and his job and past in the war, the department itself, etc. but there's only tiny bits of what they actually talk about together. and i'm fine with that. i like how we are to make up the pieces of what happened. especially on how morse is frequently said to be holistically different in oxford than he is now, although i would like to see just a tad bit on how he was so wild. speaking of morse, he and monica are absolutely delightful. why hadn't they been together sooner? how monica brings so much light into morse is so wonderful to see. we actually see a genuine smile of his when he is with her. and come on he looked so cute waking up with his ruffled hair and covered in blankets. all he needed was a cup of tea in his hand to make it perfect. every second these two are together i soak in. he loves her so much and has a tight grip on their relationship. ah! i love these two so much.

aw, cass' slump in the chair when dean pushes his feelings aside. don't worry i will hug you cass! ....somehow. the staff sure chose a great looking neighborhood. as soon as they were teleported there i wanted to get a house inside it immediately. this is what, the first time bobby has tagged with the boys? i was shocked to see him asking questions with sam and dean in the jail. i was like "who is that guy-WTF?!?" haha "JEFFERSON STARSHIPS!" it wasn't dean but sam's saying of the new name that made me crack up. he said it with such seriousness. it reminded me of "VATICAN CAMEOS" in sherlock even though it was an entirely different situation. i hated every inch of eve. how she thought she could control the boys by mere intimidation. she may know their names but not much else. who else cannot love dean's genuis idea of drinking the ashes, which also shows his total non-underestimating of eve. he was taking everything with him. man oh man the show doesn't take long to corrupt their characters does it? what is cass planning exactly??? D: i still have faith in him, though, the most the show has given the audience right of is suspicion.

"You know what that is?" "Yeah, it's horse-" "Authenticity." clever writers. also, the scene with dean letting sam go after samuel was great to me, since he was more worried on how sam would work out the horse than anything else. i don't know, it was small, but him just trusting sam to do his job without a "be careful" or anything like that was refreshing. was a bit sad to see the phoenix go but all monsters can't be "monsters" i guess. when my mother saw bobby tell cass to use his soul, she said "REALLY, the things these guys do for each other! Are they mothers?!?" my poor mother has lucked out on familial love when she was a kid. she doesn't understand. dean's nodding of his hat was my favourite part of the episode. dean and sam even have western-time looking faces. P.S. is it just me or did dean's eyes look really brown this episode? aren't they a rainbow of colours?

THEY. ACTUALLY. SHOWED. THE. BEHEADING!!! i couldn't BELIEVE it. me and my sister jumped and stared in half shock, half betrayal. here we were believing the show would censor as usual. the ep did a good job confusing df out of me with the "wait till she gets home" and wondering what the titantic was. ellen. my beautiful wonderful ellen. i don't care she's there for 15mins, i latched onto every second. okay, is that whole scene when dean and sam try to walk normally through the potential dangers a classic SPN scene? because their reactions were too hilarious.

dangit, of course when i adore rufus he has to die. OF COURSE. rip, i'm so pissed i can't say much more about this ep.

i thought this would be hard to watch considering how almost 4th wall breaking it was, but i think on the third commercial break i had gotten used to it. misha squealing at the angel's hands was way too funny, and sam's looking anywhere but the camera had to make me cover my mouth before i woke everyone up. the most that stuck in my bead though was jared's huge cowboy photo that sam was sitting in front of, lol. and i'm going to take the running phrase of "at least they're talking again" as a joke/fiction? that wasn't real was it?

based on the show and what it makes sam as to be. honestly i half thought dean was going to drag sam to the house tbh.

i thought the ghost killed her by using her connection with the kidney and making it bleed o.o so how did the ghost kill her? because she was perfectly fine from what i remember the whole time.

yes but it wasn't as if he had to shoot her in the head. it wasn't as if he had to kill a healthy, living child in order for sam to live, he was just gathering her soul. as i said before i understand dean's feelings for helping other people and especially with family, but he understood the job when he put on that ring. he knew it would be hard. i'm not blaming him or mad at him, i just thought he would rebel for a different reason. for something that wouldn't make me complain would be if tessa lead him to a school bus, and told him that everyone died on it in a drunken car accident. for myself, i would have taken the sick girl's soul, but i don't think i would stomach taking an entire school bus. but as i said that's just me. i was slightly surprised and gently appreciated dean's speedy and literal face to face with death for some sort of deal with It, which is why him falling flat on his face so soon disappointed me, and death giving sam his soul anyway made me feel cheated of my time watching the entire episode. it just doesn't feel satisfactory for me.

i don't get it, how did sam and dean end up killing the ghost's sister? they didn't do anything harmful to her. honestly this episode felt like filler to me tbh. basically this. as everyone knows he went to lisa because sam told him to, and he did get involved, but not completely. i don't think he ever could, tbh, even if he really wanted to. sam is half of his soul. he would never adjust 100%. thus why when sam appeared it only took dean a couple of days to realise it wasn't only his hunter life that took him away from lisa and ben, it was sam. sure the hunter life came with that, but there was no way sam would just leave and do his own thing while dean did his. they are far beyond cell phone relationship status at this point, they can't keep up with each other that way. dean tried though, he really did. can't take that away from him.

"Wow, Sam, I gotta say, souless or not, I gotta say I'm pretty impressed." that one one made me think on not only would sam be bothered on what his souless self did to other people's lives, but also what he did to him. like sam wouldn't feel grossed out at all that his unsouled self had all those "activities" with those women? i would want to wash myself twice a day for a month. well this episode wasn't....pleasant. just how many spiders do they have to deal with after this since the others escaped? this will always be in the back of my head...D:

i agree with this as well, and because cass actually looked a bit hurt that sam sat down so quickly, lol ----- jared knows sam so well that he can do something so subtle but so obvious with himself to show that sam's soul is back. it's like his eye colour came back or something. sam could do the same amount of dirty work as his brother and yet the show will still pertain him as being the innocent little brother, this i am referring to when sam didn't remember a blessed thing in the cage. i know the wall is there and all, but it's how it was done that i see it as. dean's entire being lighting up when sam fell back to his gentle tone, gentle eyes routine was the best part of the episode. i don't get it, if the dragons wanted virgins and the dragon tried to catch that woman who wasn't, what was the point? but perhaps why she escaped was because he found out somehow. also how did dean know that woman wasn't a virgin just by looking at her? i really want sam to brush aside the things he couldn't control just as dean, but sam's got dean trapped good. dean sure as heck would want to make things right regardless of him conscientiously doing his actions or not. in reality i'm sure a lot of us would want to brush it aside but our conscience would get on our shoulders somehow. P.S. i think sam would have been able to pull the sword out ;)