Yeah No

Through most of our marriage, my husband has paid "the bills" and I normally paid for everything else, which adds up to at least as much as "the bills" if not more. I'm talking about groceries, vacations, eating out, clothing, household necessities, health and beauty aids, major and non-major shared purchases, lawn care, furniture, car payments, etc. "The bills" in our case means the household overhead, like mortgage, cable, electric, not everything extra. It's hard to tell what Jasmine meant by "the bills".

I agree, and this is relevant in my own life where an accident and illness plus the subsequent job loss made me unable to contribute what I used to to our household. My husband isn't keeping a ledger somewhere of the "debt" I incurred while unable to work. He knows I have his back and have had his back many times and in many ways over the years. We don't keep a balance sheet to keep track of what each of us is paying at any given time. Over almost 40 years things have changed a LOT, and at some times I was supporting HIM, paying for his health insurance, etc. So I just think that seeing how insistent Will seemed to be about splitting everything "down the middle" seemed like a tightwad answer, not the answer of an enlightened male that understands that it's not realistic nor even fair for things to be completely 50-50 between any couple at any given time. If a wife stays home with kids, that's one time it can't be 50-50. If one of them gets sick and can't work, that's another time it can't be 50-50. If one of them makes a lot more than the other I would HOPE he wouldn't insist on things being 50-50. I think Jasmine was thinking about all that stuff and he wasn't, which to me shows how unrealistic HE is, and quite possibly a selfish tightwad to boot.

A lot of older women, myself included, don't bare their arms because they don't feel they're thin and attractive enough anymore. I can personally vouch for the fact that Joan Rivers did expose her arms when she was young because I've been watching her on an ancient talk show of hers from 50 years ago where she most certainly did. But when women get older, heavier, etc. a LOT of them don't feel comfortable letting everything hang out like they did when they were young. Our society is very judgmental about age and weight and I personally would not blame any woman for covering them. I personally suffer from hereditary edema in my lower legs that came on with age and weight, so I no longer wear skirts. I would be MORTIFIED because you just don't see women walking around with fat ankles like that and if they do they usually have given up on looking at all attractive and wear nothing but sweats anyway. I'm just not that woman. I don't ever go out of the house without some makeup. That's just me. I'm personally not in favor of everyone letting everything hang out no matter how unattractive the rest of the world sees it. I think that's a slippery slope because it's easy to go from there to walking around like a mess and not taking care of one's appearance at all.

I guess I should have closed my eyes when she was baring them, because I personally didn't find her arms at all attractive. YMMV, we don't have to agree. BTW, my own arms are what I consider too fat and unattractive to bare too, so it's not like I'm some picture of arm perfection or anything. I think Jasmine's a lovely person, perhaps a little conflicted on gender roles, but my personal fashion tastes are somewhat different from hers. I didn't find her wedding gown at all attractive on her, especially those arm bands that only accentuated her arms.

I wondered about Vasi's wife too. Besides being more attractive than him she also looked more than a few years younger, although I thought he looked older than he is. I took a look at customer reviews of Vasi's on various sites and they never were that bad. One recent reviewer said the restaurant never had trouble getting business and wondered why it was even featured on the show at all. One review from over a year ago said the owner clearly had pride in his restaurant and always went out of his way to please customers. It makes me wonder how these restaurants get picked for makeovers. Perhaps Ramsay didn't want to make over that many truly struggling restaurants anymore since so many of his "Kitchen Nightmares" restaurants later closed.

Is it me or have a disproportionate number of young people on reality shows (especially cooking competitions) lost a parent at a relatively young age? It was mentioned about two of them in this episode. The more I watch these shows the more that seems to be the case.

I almost had deja vu over this episode. I seem to remember another season (don't remember which) where the chefs disappointed the judges, who wanted big ginormous homestyle entrees, not dainty appetizer portions. And Tom gave them the obligatory scolding over it, too. So the judges wanted Flintstone sized brontosaurus steaks, but the chefs were sabotaged in giving them that by not being given enough time to do it. I heard one of the chefs say that he did the best he could "in the time allotted". Way to go, show, in giving them impossible challenges and then letting the judges blame them for the inevitable bad results.

I wonder if Christine regrets it now. It might have been better to have Mykelti close by where she could keep an eye on her than to let her go off on her own and things ending up the way they did. It's a tough call. I can understand not wanting to coddle kids too, but Mykelti was clearly a loose cannon and could have gotten into all sorts of trouble on her own. They're lucky her getting hooked up with FT was the worst of it.

So you know what I'm talking about, lol. My Dad worked on 16th Street so I was down there a lot.

On "Unfiltered", Luke seemed super-excited to go over cringe-worthy scenes from the show where his new wife was miserable. Does he even have a clue how bad that makes him look? I seriously doubt it. They better have fallen in love by the time that was filmed or he is officially a disgusting pig.

And now for more unapologetic shallowness: Poor Stephanie, her husband loves it that his wife has boobs but she got a husband with moobs. God bless her, she seems oblivious to them. Poor Jasmine, she can't resist the opportunity to bare her arms. Too bad they're a little thick for that. I was shocked at how far back Kristine's hairline is. I feel sorry for her. Luke's new haircut makes him look 40 years old and balding. I don't feel sorry for him at all.

And that new haircut....dude! Yes on that too. I donno. Maybe he came out of the closet??? Its just painful watching them. Call me shallow or whatever but that leather bow tie again made me wonder about Luke. Keep in mind that when I was a young I regularly walked down Christopher Street in Greenwich Village. Yeah, I knew the significance of leather at a young age. So when I say that keep that in mind. Too many things are making me wonder about him. I immediately thought that Jasmine would have been happier with a guy like Keith. They both seem to be on the same page about that stuff. I admit I hate agreeing with Luke about anything too!

I actually think Luke's answer on "Unfiltered" as to how bills should be split in a relationship was the best one. He said something about how things are rarely 50-50 in any relationship and you just work them out as you go along, which is what I would say. I think Jasmine took Will's remark as indicative of his not being a good "protector" after she felt he left her hanging during the bike incident. She was already wondering whether he had her back after that, and then when he made it clear that he wanted everything split down the middle she took it to mean he was looking out for himself but not for her. I have to wonder what it's like to be married but essentially on a second date with someone. To her ears it would be like a guy insisting that they split the check from their first date down the middle. To her that would mean he's not really into her or he's too cheap to be a gentleman.

I know! I think this is probably something like what the producers said. They pushed them into it early so they could get it on film. Who cares about pesky details like divorces that aren't final? To me, this more than anything qualifies as this show jumping the shark. No wonder Matt was flipping out. There was nothing real about it. Like where are they going to live? They didn't even talk about anything practical. I think the fakeness is why the black pastor backed out. When he found out it wasn't going to be a "real marriage" he didn't want anything to do with it. That would also explain why Shelly was like "yeah, right, whatever" to finding out he backed out. This wasn't a real wedding anyway, just a dress up ball. I loved how the captions said that Mary had gone back Amish "for now" - Like they know her better than to believe she'll stick with it. But I don't even believe her going back was anything but a fake plot for this show (which answers your question above about how she can participate in this show and yet go "back Amish"). And other plots. Why does Ada not have any issues with the bishop about being on the show? Has she really gone English but still dresses Amish like Mary did? I might have missed where this was addressed in a previous episode, but they never talk about her status with the Amish church whatsoever so I'm thinking perhaps they just haven't talked about it at all.

I actually think Violet Beane is one of the best actors on this show. Her facial expressions are amazingly believable. When she was handed the gift in this episode I thought she looked genuinely touched. I even commented on it to my husband. And I think Cara and Miles have chemistry galore.

This is one reason I appreciated going to a university hospital. I got the head of a department as my surgeon so I not only had the benefit of his experience, but he was also up on all the latest procedures and breakthroughs. Yes, I thought about that when I chose my hospital and met my surgeon or I probably would have asked him all those questions that Sheldon did, LOL! Then again, with what they consider a very common, routine procedure like gallbladder, I read that it's better to find someone that does that particular procedure a LOT. When I asked my surgeon how many gallbladder procedures he'd done, he said, "literally hundreds. I do a few every week". I remember grilling him about the possible things that could go wrong and I liked his answers. One of my best friends didn't ask enough questions of her surgeon beforehand for a different type of surgery and ended up with a perforated bowel. It seems that the surgeon wanted to do what was at that time a new robotic procedure on her, but the complication rate was a little high when I looked it up online. I wouldn't have agreed to it, but she let him pressure her into it. No Sheldon Cooper would have ever let that happen! Better to be a pain in the ass than to go what she went through after her bowel was accidentally perforated.

Once again, another episode that touched me personally in several different ways that defy logic. It almost makes me think the God account is working on ME. There was a meaning to this episode that it didn't even utilize that would have made the plot amazing, and that's that the book about the Little Red Lighthouse not only saved this apartment building, but it saved the lighthouse itself. Back in 1951 the lighthouse was slated for demolition, but thanks to the popularity of Hildegarde Swift's book there was a public outcry, and because of the letters thousands of children wrote in protest, the Lighthouse was saved. So it appears that a book about how this little lighthouse regains its pride when it finds out it still has an important job to do actually does yet another important job by saving its author's building in this episode. I've known about the lighthouse all my life and I owned that book as a child. My husband grew up only a few blocks from it and it was a part of his life too. You can't just visit it any time you want, like Miles and Cara did. It only opens to visitors a few times a year for prearranged group tours. My best friend was renting in Brooklyn a few years ago when she and everyone in her building had to leave because the owners were selling it. I remember they gave her 2 months to move, which I thought was too short notice, but the law in NY allows only 30 days for people renting month to month, so they were actually being generous. In the case of leases, I've read that the owner has to allow the renters to stay to the end of their lease, but I'm not sure about that. Given that this was a pre-war building where people lived for many decades, I'm sure at least some of them would be protected by rent control and other laws that would make it very difficult for anyone to force them to move. So I don't even think they needed to bring up its potential landmark qualification. Still, another great episode!

I guess this was before laparoscopic surgery because now you don't even spend a night in the hospital for a gallbladder removal. I just had mine out last September and I was home by 1:00 p.m. As annoying and obnoxious as Sheldon was in this episode I was LOL because when I was in the hospital I kept wondering if he would ask the kind of questions I asked of the doctors and nurses, and now I have my answer, which is YES! I even told my husband there was a little Sheldon Cooper in me at the time! I remember asking my anesthesiologist if there would be a shift change during my operation because I read that the chances of mistakes are higher in that case, LOL. When he told me the name of the anesthetic they were going to give me I asked him if that wasn't the drug that killed Michael Jackson. He said the drug didn't kill Michael Jackson, his doctor did. I told him that was the correct answer. Of course I wasn't obnoxious about it and they were all happy to answer my questions.

Grant also plays Bob Katz on Younger.

Yes, that's what I thought. I also thought it was no coincidence that her father had a hurt hand at the time - similar to her disability with regard to being less smart than the rest of her species. It made her encouragement of him all the more symbolic. I just didn't understand why Picardo's character struggled so much to move Ed. Is he less strong than the rest of his species or is that incredible strength only apparent when in an environment with less gravity as aboard the Orville? I defer to those on the board more up on the backstory on this.

Haha, that's a good question. It seems that the boorish asshats never see themselves that way. They think they look great, meanwhile the rest of the world sees something very different. You just reminded me of how many of them have been on this show over the years. You'd think the so-called "experts" would be able to spot them by now, but nooooo. I'm with those that say the show picks them deliberately for the drama. If everyone was as normal as Ashley and Anthony we'd all fall asleep after 10 minutes, and they know it. I just feel sorry for the people that get stuck with them. I'm trying to think of the female equivalents and thought of Sam and Mia, only "boorish asshat" doesn't really describe them, and I can't think of any one term that would.

I've never heard of that stereotype being associated with Jews, and I grew up in a solidly Jewish neighborhood in NYC and have lived around Jews all my life. I wonder how I could have missed that given that I'm a pretty aware person. I ran this by my husband who also grew up in that culture and he said he's never heard of it either. We've heard of other offensive stereotypes, just not that one. Then again I don't make it a priority to collect offensive stereotypes. I try not to focus on those things and I can't help it if other people read things into what I post that are not there.

Let's get a couple of things straight - Just because some people post about Luke seeming gay or seeming Jewish or narcissistic doesn't automatically mean that any of them are saying that being gay = bad or being Jewish = narcissistic. I personally think this is basic reading comprehension and shouldn't have to be explained and clarified over and over again. If no specific association is made verbally between any of these two things, please don't assume it's in the underlying intention. The accusation that I would associate being Jewish with being narcissistic is extremely insulting to me as a person that is part Jewish and has Jewish family. OK, rant over.

How is bringing up possible narcissism separately in a separate paragraph in the same post with saying his mother seemed Jewish to me offensive? I in no way associated the two things in my post. I think it's offensive to be perpetually associating things that have no relationship to each other in a post just to be offended, and you associated them not me. I drew no relationship between the two and in that paragraph was just responding to the quote above my post about the possibility of Luke growing up in a strict religious home. Meanwhile I did draw relationships between Luke's behavior and being narcissistic, not his ethnicity. And BTW my father is half Jewish and I have Jewish great grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins so why on earth would I ever associate the two in my mind? I even stated that I'm part Jewish just in case anyone might make any assumptions about my motives. Please reread my post and the quote above it carefully and don't twist my words.

Of course they already knew it, but something like that happened to me. I was already in my early 20's when my mother told me she was married years before she met my father when she was in the WAC (Women's Army Corps) during WWII. It turns out the guy, who was an officer and very dashing, was already married and had a family when he married my mom, which she did not know. They were married on the army base by the chaplain, who found out he was already married shortly after the wedding and quickly annulled the marriage. Needless to say, my mom was devastated and didn't want to talk about it ever again. So I never blamed her for not telling me until then, but she did explain that she wanted me to be old enough to understand the situation before she told me. She didn't withhold the information for any other reason and my father did know about it. I always wondered why my mother didn't get married until she was 29, which back in the 50's was very old to marry. Well, this was the reason. She waited a good long time before she could trust anyone again. I recently found a daughter of this man on a genealogy site. She told me her mother was the woman he was already married to when he married my mother. She also told me he had done this with women other than my mother over several years and had wives in a few cities at the same time! Her mother found out when MPs showed up at the door looking for him. Needless to say, she divorced him. I don't think my mother ever knew this and I can't tell her as she passed 17 years ago. You can't make this stuff up! Getting back to the show - I actually wouldn't put it past Babs to have hidden the marriage from her kids for a while, just not until now. I'm sure she told them when they were younger. This was just a plot for the show. I think Babs comes up with some of these lame plots all by herself. I've suspected that for years now. I think she was the one that suggested Heather going to meet guys in the grocery store. That's some kind of lame idea she would come up with. Her saying that divorce was something people didn't want to reveal "back then" might have been true in the 50's, but most definitely not in the 70's, 80's and beyond, so she's full of it if she thinks that's going to fly as a reason she didn't tell her kids about it ever.