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I find Megan B so awkward that I cannot watch her segments without cringing. Her "I have to graduate, so I'm quitting" was bs. If that was the case, why did she say before she went in that she wants to stay at training camp, but she can only do what she can do. Why did she tell Kelli and Judy that she would work on it when they critiqued her during practice. There was no mention of a class then. She just came off looking extremely immature IMO. Not a good look for her. Too bad about Karen, but I agreed with her getting cut this year. I think she's cute but needs a different cut and style for her hair with how her face is shaped. She looked much better in the solo clips where her hair was up. I'm not sad to see Shelby go. She was just never that likeable to me. She's a pretty girl, but her dancing was super stiff, and she kind of annoyed me with her overuse of the word, "definitely." I hate that she quit her job, but it seemed like a dumb move. It's one reason why I'm rooting for Kyndall. I like that she said she wouldn't give away her career for training camp. Was Nicole Bulcher on show group? I know she was a group leader as well. Generally I agree though with the sentiment that if someone is good enough to be a group leader, they should be good enough for show group. I can see both sides on whether or not it's fair to hold her decision to turndown appearances against her for show group. On one hand, she still made the team and was made a group leader, so it's not anything that hurt her generally with DCC, and if show group requires extra performances, why shouldn't someone's past appearances availability be a factor. On the other hand, it's unfair if the girls don't know ahead of time that this is something that can hurt them for show group. Regardless, they could have pulled Angela aside and told her beforehand. I'm sure its embarrassing to be the only group leader who isn't on show group. I also found the choreographer to be obnoxious. I don't need to see her again.

I agree with the comment that Madeline's hair looked ok in the studio, but that it looked very dark again in the salon. Maybe it was just the lights in the salon I thought this episode had a lack of dance. The Kitty section seemed to have about 45 seconds of dance total. I didn't mind the fashion show and the part with the Cowboys coach, but it was too much with the makeover section and the Kitty section. This episode needed to be broken up. When Shelby said that her background was competitive cheer as opposed to dance, her struggles made more sense. She looks stiff and seems to have trouble with picking up choreo quickly, which makes sense with someone with a cheer background. I can't see her making the team, and like many others, I cringed when she named Ashley Pro and Breelan as 2 of her friends who made it. They're lovely girls, but not the ones that you want Kelli and Judy associating you with in terms of dance. What did Holly say about her weight gain.... "Being 18, it's just like wahhhh"? Poor Megan B. She just seemed like a deer in headlights and wasn't making any sense. I can't see Kelli and Judy overlooking that. In the previews next week, it seems like they're talking about the short girl (I don't think she's ever said her name on screen) who dances next to Taylor in that dance group, when they say that the boots are taking up her leg. She's cute, seems to be a good dancer from the few clips that we have seen, and would add a little bit of diversity to the team, so hopefully she can overcome that.

I wouldn't mind seeing the show get rid of the semi-finals episode, and just premiering each season at finals with a quick recap of semis- maybe a 1.5 hour episode. I just find the first episode to be a bit boring. Seeing girls who are overweight or completely out of their element is not entertaining, especially 10 years in, and I rarely get anything out of the first phase of tryouts when the girls are doing a freestyle dance. I'm sure this change would never happen, but if there is a set number of episodes, I would much rather see another one from training camp, perhaps even an episode that focused on the vets.

I think she made it to finals because she got votes from several judges after semis. IIRC, some of the judges said that she was striking and would be appealing to men. While we've seen Kelli and Judy overrule the judges once with Danielle to bring a girl into training camp, I don't recall Kelli or Judy ever striking a girl who got the votes to advance. Now, I doubt they would televise that anyway, but regardless we've seen girls make it as training camp when Kelli and/or Judy did not care for them.

Adding another famous look-alike, Kat kind of looks like gymnast Nastia Liukin, as she (Nastia) has aged and grown into her looks.

Kelly was definitely catty when she spoke about Colby, but I honestly thought all of her comments have been spot on, even if mean. Colby did have peek-a-boo look to her dancing with all the squinting and shrugging; she did look like an aerobics instructed at times; she does look like she has had a ton of work done on her face; and she does look too old to be on the squad. Now just because it's true doesn't mean it should be said, but I have thought Kelli has been way more personal about other girls in the past. I think Kelli absolutely hated the idea of Colby being in training camp and disliked nearly everything about her style, but I didn't get the sense that she personally disliked her like I've seen with some other girls like Ika and Ashley from Kansas City during her season, even Hannah last year. With that said, Colby seemed like a nice person, and she grew on me over time. I didn't mind the Jay segment. It was the right amount of time, but I don't need to see Jay again this season. I like Melissa WAY more this year. Last year, she was basically Breelan's mentor. This year, she hasn't played favorites nearly as much. Does anyone know who the second leaders are for each group? Kelli must love Jennifer for her to jump several of the 4 year girls to make group leader. However, I very much liked her style when she was helping the rookies with the dance, so I can see is a group leader. Emily was way too timid, so I'm not sad to see her go. I 'm not spoiled but I have to think that Shelby is not far behind. I hate that she quit her job, and Kelli's response was very different than it was with Courtney last year. I'm guessing that she sees Shelby as bottom 10. Madeline is growing on me as a person, but I have to think that her days are numbered as well. Ditto for Taylor. I haven't done dance or gymnastics in probably 8 or so years, and my kicks are basically at Taylor's level. They're just awful and completely unacceptable for someone who is in her 3rd year of auditioning. Love KaShara, and I would like to see more of Robyn and the very short girl who was on the end of the kickline. I don't even know her name.

Yeah, Lacey's error actually stood out more to me because it looked like her arm placement was wrong. Ashley is just kind of there. I didn't notice her at all on my first (or second) viewing. ETA: Actually, is that Ashley in the left corner at 1:03? Whoever that is, she misses the dance move on the count right there. Of course, I wouldn't notice these errors if I wasn't actually looking for them.

Farrah is an awful, vile, and disrespectful bitch, but I was on her side this episode as far as Maci goes. I just can't stand Maci. She is so full of shit. I wish someone would remind her that she's on baby #2 with baby daddy #2, and is running around giving safe sex speeches, while openly admitting that she wasn't using any protection, and of course, her lazy ass still hasn't completed her 2 year associates degree when she's had six damn years. She has no room to be judging anyone. I can't believe that she's so worried about Farrah's porn, which she has brought up way more than Farrah has, when she needs to be worried about the kindergarten parental gossip surrounding her own life. I would wager that Bentley's friends are more likely to overhear gossip about his own mama, rather than Farrah. Maci may be used to young girls and her twitter fans viewing her as some great role model, but in reality, she's a hot mess.

Oh wow, she looks lifeless in that clip. She doesn't even manage a smile. If that's indicative of her season, then it makes sense that she got cut, even disregarding any possible weight gain.

Completely agree. Jasmine was never a great dancer, and they kept bringing her back. If she brought the same dancing skills to tryouts yesterday that she has for the past 3 years, then I think it's messed up to cut her like that. If they no longer wanted her on the team, then tell her ahead of time, so she can save the time and embarrassment of trying out again and not making it. Who knows, maybe she was warned, but I doubt it. I feel differently when it's a weight issue, but when it comes to dancing, you know after the first year whether the can retain memory, project, perform week in and week out, etc. It doesn't take 3 years to figure out. ETA: Of course, this is assuming that dance is the reason she got cut and not flubbing the interview or blanking out on the field, etc. Every year, Kelli talks about how great the solos are and how great the rookie class is, and I honestly have just started to roll my eyes about it. The rookie class in the seventh season I believe, is the only one in recent years that I thought was a lot stronger than the others. Every other class has had 3 or 4 standouts, but I thought the talent was fantastic that year (Kinzie, Jacie, Jenna, Jennifer Alexis, Olivia, Carissa, Jessica, Alex H. (before the weight gain), I even thought Danielle was very strong in training camp that year)). Hell, even some of the girls who were weak in training camp (Kelsey, Ashley) seem like they ended up being good DCCs. It will be interesting to see how this year's group comes together.

Poor Jasmine. I feel for her. She was never the best dancer, but I always liked her. I thought Ashley P. and Breelan made it by the skin of their teeth last year, so I'm not really surprised to see them cut. I also agree with some of the comments about the lack of diversity.

Agreed. I do think that there can be legitimate reasons why it would take someone a long time to get a 2-year degree, but none apply to Maci as far as I can see. She's simply lazy, and it's clear that school is in no way a priority for her. Now, it's her life and her money, so if she wants to be at her community college for 10 years, them that's her business. However, I'm not gonna play into little narrative that she's just a hardworking young mother who just trying her hardest to balance everything to go to school and get her degree. I knew people in undergrad who were just there to have a good time and didn't give a shit about school, frequently dropping and/or failing, and they didn't care because graduating really was no big deal. Simply being enrolled doesn't automatically get you a pat on the back. From what I can see, Maci has plenty of support and hasn't finished her degree because she doesn't give a damn. I totally agree with the belief that she's only in school because she's "supposed" to be and that she wants to be a stay at home mom. Maybe in her mind, if she gets done with school and still doesn't have a ring on her finger, she may have to gasp.....get a real job, because she the "good one" from Teen Mom (again what she probably believes), and once she's done with school, then she "supposed" to get a real job. Let me just also say that I laughed when Taylor was going on about her "message". Honey...stop and have a seat. You're knocked up by a second man and admitted that you were not using any sort of protection. Please explain what message you have to give to any young girls. Again, if she wants a baby with Taylor, fine, its her life and she can afford it, but she needs to get off of her high horse and stop judging other people. I don't consider Farrah a role model by any means, but Maci's sure as hell isn't one either. I also agree that there is something wrong with the Abraham family. Every single one of them seems to have problems. As already stated, Farrah has been a selfish, disrespectful bitch since 16&Pregnant, and from what we've seen, her sister is a piece of work as well. Michael has always come off like a meek little pushover, but Debra is really the one who confuses me. The others are at least consistent, but Debra came off like a stone cold woman early on. I remember on 16&P, she was the main one telling Farrah to cut ties with Sophia's dad, and I remember in that episode, her coldly telling Farrah that she needs her rest and will not be helping her or something like that (which I had no problem with). Along the way however, she became this weepy woman who is in babytalk mode all of the time, and who is now apparently addicted to plastic surgery. It's bizarre.

I don't think Maci is as much to blame for this incident, but I'm pretty sure that this is what happened, especially since Ryan and Shelby seemed to head to the gas station as soon as Maci called. However, I think this goes back to one of Ryan's biggest problems - he cannot communicate. Had he said "call me when you get there" - he would be completely in the right, but he didn't. They agreed to meet at 1:30. Now most rational would call someone after waiting for 15 minutes not 40, and Maci probably spent more time driving to Ryan's parents than she would have had she just waited a few more minutes, but when people are angry, they're not always rational. I forgot it at first, but I really hope Amber is embarrassed when she watches Leah talking about Amber being mad about seeing Kristina. That really is not something that a 5 year old should be dealing. Also, I rolled my eyes at Amber and her cousin talking about how much they love each other - this is the same girl who was nowhere to be found when she was in prison with no cameras around? Ok. We know that she didn't visit, but did she write to her, did they talk on the phone? I doubt it. An another point on Tyler - his whole reasoning for putting the video up made no sense. I doubt Brandon and Teresa care about him making a powerpoint, the issue is putting it online. Why couldn't he just watch it with Catelyn or their family and friends? Do they even have friends or are their "fans" their friends? Whatever.

There was too much stupid in this episode. First of all - Ryan. When you say that you're going to meet someone at 1:30, then you show up at 1:30. If you're close by the meeting place and anticipate that the other person may be late, then you tell them to text you when they're almost there or when they get there. This isn't hard. I will say that it was silly of Maci to just sit there for 40 minutes, but I blame Ryan for this encounter. I will also say that both Ryan and Maci need to stop talking about each other in front of Bentley. Maybe now that Maci is pregnant again, we will stop seeing the same encounter between she and Ryan over and over again. Amber: Leah is 5, not 15, and yes, kindergartners need a schedule. If she's falling asleep at school already, then she probably doesn't need to be sleeping at a different house during the week. Tyler: It's perfectly normal for parents to want their child to have some privacy, and no, they did not sign up for their child to be on a reality show 5 years after the adoption. As far and they and everyone else was concerned, it was a one time deal with 16&Pregnant. Secondly, no, you don't get to dictate anything to Brandon and Teresa about Carly just because you are the birth parent. Yes, I'm sure they will forever be grateful to you and Catelyn, but they are her parents. They are the ones who stay up at night with her when she's sick, they are the ones who provide her food and care and everything else, and they are the ones who deal with her on a daily basis. If they don't want people to recognize her at the mall, then that is their call. Catelynn understands this perfectly because it's not hard to understand. Tyler is just an ass. I can believe that Dawn made the adoption appear more rosy than it ended up being, but at this point, they know the deal, and I've seen nothing to suggest that Brandon and Teresa are unfair to them.

Just watched the episode, and I have to agree with the sentiment about Ryan. His father's reaction said it all. Ryan just doesn't give a shit, and they're tired of it. I can't stand Maci (what her excuse for not finishing her two-year degree yet), so I hate to be on her side about anything, but she clearly seems to be telling the truth about Ryan and his interactions with Bentley. Granted the therapy session seemed a bit over the top, but I do get her concern, even if I think Bentley will turn out just fine. I do agree with the poster who said that Ryan resents Bentley because it ties him to Maci, and it's clear that he hates her and would be happy if he never had to deal with her again. Of course, he needs to get the hell over it. What's done is done, and if he keeps it up, he'll end up with a son who wants nothing to do with him. Who knows, maybe he won't care. He doesn't seem to care much about anything. I do question if Bentley's statement that his mom's house is his "real house" is all that strange? I guess because of his age and the manner in which he said it, then it's a bit different, but pretty much every friend I had growing up who had divorced parents seemed to have that viewpoint. They referred to the house that they stayed at usually as "my house", whereas the one that they went to every other weekend was "my dad's house" or "my mom's house" - basically they didn't see it as their "real" house. Now, Bentley clearly seems to have (or be developing) issues with Ryan, so I'm sure he meant in a bad way, but a kid with separated parents seeing the home of the one with primary custody as their real home isn't crazy to me, in and of itself. I'm kind of over Catelynn and Tyler, mostly because I don't care for Tyler anymore, so I kind of blow through their scenes. I do think Amber has made some strides, but she's still childish to me. I didn't get why she refused to get out of the car at the school. Like what the hell. Kristina's daughter is a student there. It's not like she just showed up out of the blue to be there with Leah. I didn't get that at all. I'm actually looking forward to Farrah coming back. She's bizare, batshit crazy and one of the bitchiest and brattiest people that I've seen on reality tv, but she and her crazy, toxic family are at least interesting - usually.

It was mentioned a while back that Lacey looks like Farrah from Teen Mom, and I swear, I think she looks more and more like her every episode! I also think Breelan looks kind of like Leighton Meester. Each season, I wonder why they teach the entrance so late in training camp. I get why they only go to the stadium at the very end, but it seems like they could just go outside to the field and teach it early on, and weed out those who can't get it then.

The difference in maturity between Alexandra and Chandler getting cut and Vivian getting cut was striking. They both handled it like adults, while Vivian acted like a teenager. What did she think bringing up other girls messing up was going to accomplish? Did she believe that Kelli would say, "you're right, we're giving Ashley P. more time, so we'll give you another shot." I mean, seriously Vivian! Throwing other people under the bus will almost never get you anywhere. Don't even get me started on that poem. Not only was it just strange to pull a sheet of notebook paper out in the meeting, but it sounded like a poem that a middle school student would write. I still maintain that Vivian and Ashley Paige should have both made it over Morgan and Kaitlin last season, but that was then. I see no reason why she deserved to make it this year. Her dancing was average, and she clearly had a sense of entitlement. I'm also sick of her whiny voice. She always sounds like she's on the verge of tears....either it's an act or she has problems. Either way, it needs to stop. It's not cute. I really like Ashley P. this year. Her dancing isn't great or anything, but I feel like she's had an opportunity to show her personality this season, and she's very likeable. I'm surprised that Caila hasn't been called out for her dancing more. She's definitely a pretty girl, and the tall blond that they like, but she seems to lack rhythm and style. Maybe it's just me. I'm ambivalent on Breelan. I don't think she's good, but I also don't think she deserved to get cut over anyone else who has left (other than Megan, but that was a body issue). Glad to see some focus on Victoria. I wish there would have been more focus on Melissa, Lacey, Erica, and Mary as well too (or even on the vets), but compared to the Morgan show last year, I've enjoyed this season much more. Back to Alexandra, I really hope she works on her flexibility and technique and comes back next season. She's beautiful and very well-spoken. Chandler also seemed like a sweet girl, so I wouldn't mind seeing her back either.

Agreed. I wanted to see the girls get broken up into smaller groups to do his dance. There is also a deleted scene from this episode where they show they the girls dancing. One group was the rookies with the lowest scores. Mary was in that group, which was somewhat surprising to me, as she seemed like one of the stronger ones. The other group - vets- was the girls who got 15 out of 15 (I guess votes to make it back). Everyone in that group was pretty obvious (Jacie, Jenna, Katy, Holly, both Jennifers, Sydney, Jenelle, Emma). There was one blonde in the back next to Sydney that I couldn't make out- maybe Kinzie or Samantha. I wouldn't have minded seeing more of that scene either. In general, more dancing would be good.

LOVED both of Vivian's trips to the office. Kelli was not even pretending to believe her bs, and I loved it. So, so glad she brought up the facebook thing and actually mocked Vivian with the "what about my fans" stuff lol. I really liked Vivian last year, but she needs to get over herself. She constantly plays the victim and seems very entitled this year. What's so silly about her behavior is that, given her weight loss, she seems like someone who would've had a pretty easy road to the team had she just come in, worked hard, danced like she did last year. Instead, she constantly makes excuses and seems to have the attitude that it would be an honor for the DCCs to have her, and not the other way around. One thing is certain, once Kelli does not like you, your days are numbered. It was obvious with Hannah, it was obvious with Ashley P last year, and it was obvious with Ika two seasons ago. I've been rooting for Alexandria, but her kicks are embarrassing. I agree with a poster upthread about the blatant favoritism that Melissa is showing Breelan. I don't have an issue with Breelan. She seems sweet, but it seems like a mentor for the whole team should not be showing such favoritism. I get that people have favorites. That's just life, but if you define yourself as a mentor for the girls, you should be that for everyone, not just a couple of girls. I really hope there are more than just 2 episodes left. I'm enjoying the show more this season than last...maybe because I feel like we've at seen more of the rookies (though Victoria still hasn't said anything. Last year was the Morgan show, so this is a marginal improvement though I still want to see the good dancers featured more.

Veronica was definitely given more leeway than Hannah, but I can actually see why in this instance. Why would they offer Hannah "My Fit Foods" if she's not even trying all that hard to lose weight as it is? Veronica isn't the one who walked in to the office and said that working out has not been a priority for her and that she's hasn't been living a lifestyle conducive to losing and keeping off weight. Hannah did that, and this is after she had weight problems throughout her first year. It would be a strange thing to say for someone being called in for weight the first, but it's an incredibly stupid thing to say for someone who had several weight warnings already. Even if it was true, don't say it! Maybe she just didn't realize how it came off, but If I got called into my boss's office after having continuous problems with my work product in the past and proceeded to say, "I just need to change my lifestyle and make work a priority," I would probably be out of a job too. I do get that the rules need to be the same for everyone, but there's probably not a workplace, team, etc, around where seniority, attitude, favoritism, nepotism, etc is not a factor. Hannah either can't read a room, or she had to know that Kelli had little patience for her. It was written all over Kelli's face. So, since Kelli is the boss, Hannah either needed to be on her game or say "screw you, I'm over this", but you can't really do the latter and expect to stay on the team. With that said, there may certainly have been other reasons for the different treatment that Hannah, but she gave them every reason to cut her, even down to those awful double pirouettes.

Yes, her double turn was BAD! For someone who has danced as long as Hannah has, a double turn like that should not be difficult for her, even if she's not in peak shape. She looked like I would look if I jumped off the couch and tried to do a double pirouette when I haven't danced or done cheerleading in years. The whole situation was just strange. Not a fan of Paige's straight hair. ETA: I completely agree that Lacey looks like Farrah from Teen Mom.

I felt bad for Megan. She seemed like a great dancer, and to be told that she doesn't have a shot because of her body type had to devastate her. She has a different look too, which I think the DCC could use. I think they cut Hannah to make an example out of her to the other veterans who look heavy. On one hand, Hannah was not going to lose that much weight to make a visible difference in one week, so why even pretend like they were going to give her time. On the other, she didn't look good at all at practice, and her uniform did not look good on her. Some of the other vets look just looked thicker than the DCC norm. Hannah, however looked soft, which appears worse in the uniform, IMO. I can't say that her cut wasn't warranted. With that said, I also think that there had to be more to it. Kelly didn't seem nearly as sympathetic to Hannah as she was to Veronica or the other vets. She seemed like she was completely over her. The social media session could have been cut for more dancing. It was pointless. I really dislike how the shorts are cut on the uniform. I think they would much better and less like diapers if they were the length of their practice shorts. Courtney quitting her job....I think it was dumb, but also realistic. It's not a surprise to me that many of the girls appear to be students or seem to work jobs in retail, dance studios, or gyms/fitness centers. DCC may be prestigious, but many businesses are not going to be ok with you skipping out early or being absent for cheerleading practice. If DCC is more important to her than having a good job, than she should quit, and I'ms sure her boss would say the same. I was surprised at how receptive to her plan Kelli was. I thought she would push back on it a bit more.

I get that Melissa has young kids, but if she's so busy that she can't brush her hair or put on some decent clothes, then I'm not sure how she has enough time to be a mentor to the TCCs either. I don't need her to be super dressy or anything, and I didn't have a real problem with what she had on in the last episode, but she looked like a teenager who rolled out of bed and threw on some clothes before going to the mall. The floral print shorts/skirt was awful, as was her hair. It's not like it was a surprise that she was going to be on tv. I agree about Kitty as well. Her hair is terrible too. I hate that we're hearing about how Veronica is 11 pounds heavier than when she started next episode. I do think she looks heavy, but binding these girls to the weight that they are when they try out is just silly to me. Veronica is a 4 year vet, so that was her weight several years ago. I have no problem with Kelli and Judy having strict standards about how they look in uniform, but it just seems a bit arbitrary, especially when they get weighed in the evening.

Hannah did seem off in this episode. I couldn't believe when she said that she didn't know why she got called in. Seriously? Half of the time, I don't agree with Judy and Kelli when they start calling girls in about weight, but Hannah does look out of shape. Then she told Kelli and Judy that she needed a lifestyle change and needed to make working out a priority, basically admitting that she's not working out regularly. Not smart, IMO. Maybe she's just over the whole thing, but it's strange considering how thin she was last season. Of course, Kelli did say that she fluctuated last year, so there were obviously some issues. I like Alexandra, but her days seem numbered. It's too bad that she can't pick up the choreography quickly. I think she's very pretty, and I do think the team could use more diversity (which is interesting considering that 2 years ago, I thought the team was the most diverse that it's been since the show started). Christina and Breelan's days also look numbered. I felt bad for Veronica. Obviously, she knows the game, but it seems like she at least is trying to get the weight off and is just having trouble. Its frustrating. I don't mind Melissa R. but she can pull herself together a bit more if she's going to be on tv. She looked like she rolled right out of bed and came to practice.

I surprisingly liked Melissa R. in this episode. I thought some of her behind the scenes commentary on the girls and the process was helpful, and I pretty much agreed with most of her critiques. Charlotte also seemed far less mean girl-ish this year than she has in the past. Maybe they just didn't show many of her comments. I'm sorry to see Alex H. go. I always liked her. On the other hand, I'm not sorry to see Morgan go. She shouldn't have made it in the first place given her poor dancing, and she didn't appear to have improved much at all. I never really got to know Courtni through the show, so I can't' say much about her. Veronica and Alex seem like they have bodies that are naturally a little thicker (not stick thin), so I can see how both could continuously struggle with DCC's weight and body standards. Hannah's weight gain in her stomach did seem surprising however. She was tiny last year, but she just seemed un-toned, like tryouts caught her by surprise. Maybe she's just over it, but outside of it being due to a medical issue or an effect of medication, it seems like she could lose that extra little bit of weight in her stomach area fairly quickly. Melissa (TCC) is amazing, and I thought Erica and Alexandra looked great too. Did Judy say about Ashley M..."she's just that bad to me"? Ouch! Vivian does seem hyper-focused on the camera this year, and it's' not attractive. Her solo looked awful to me, but Vivian is absolutely gorgeous. I think she's one of the prettiest girls there.