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I don't know for certain, but it was basically the same size as Christine's, and it's more than two because I can recall Meri's room, Mariah's room, and a sewing room Meri had in a spare bedroom. So it had at least 3.

Good point on the passive/aggressive part.... The mention of command hooks says "apartment" to me.

I like Janelle's small, simple tree, but doesn't it burn her holly jolly ass at ALL that Full Wife is sitting there in her mansion with probably the largest tree in Flagstaff that her ill gotten gains could buy, stockings hung by a real fireplace, and, more than likely, a 2,000 piece Christmas Village?

That's a punishment, though. 😆

Exactly. Also, if they were all to finish their homes and move out there, which is nothing but a pipe dream but just for argument's sake, imagine all the fights between them because somebody used up all the "community" water. Janelle should be more concerned about her access to this than her access to a mud puddle.

Interesting... In one of the shots, the truck delivering the cistern drives through large, western-style log gate or archway (not sure what to call it). I've never seen that on the Browns' property before, unless I just missed it. Could support what you guys are saying. I smell a catfish. 😉

There would have always been some sort of problem with Meri's apt unless it was not above anyone, not below anyone, not beside anyone, not sharing a wall with anyone, not in sight of anyone, and not filled with regular air but a special mixture of oxygen and unicorn farts for her to breathe.

I have never in my life seen a grown man get that excited about a freaking hole in the ground. Especially a guy who doesn't know his ass from one. I guess Robyn sprinkled some amphetamines on his bran flakes or something. He was off the charts excited about that stupid hole. What a dweeb. I was hoping someone would appear from behind the trees and shoot him in the butt with a tranquilizer dart.

Exactly, and I guess they are not going to admit that, at least not on the show, because last night we got the Meri/Janelle convo which was in part, about how now that most of the kids are grown, the five of us are our "community" and this is who we're going to spend the rest of our lives with, yadda yadda.... HORSE. SHIT. Ladies, your social media tells a different story. Meri's is full of posts about Mariah, Friday Friend, Blair Michael, random LuLaNo people, and once in awhile a photo op with a mini-Robyn. (No Kody, Janelle, Christine, or their kids, or any of the grandkids.) Janelle's is full of pics of her with her kids & grandkids, Christine & her kids, and once in awhile, al fresco friend Kody. (No Meri, Mariah, Robyn, or mini-Robyns.) And by all means, keep that shit up. Hang out with people who care about you and that you actually care about - but stop pretending you're working on things with each other.

Agree, this is a design problem, two apartments are fairly private and one is not. However, this is the way the house was, and this was the house the Browns could afford. I think they could barely afford it, and I think there was no money leftover for an upgrade of enclosing the two outside doors. What is a cheap upgrade to most of us may have been unattainable for them. Prior to this they had been trying to live in regular homes, with one kitchen, almost everything being a "common area", and each wife only getting a bedroom as her personal space, which led to Janelle leaving and getting her own home because she couldn't stand it. The Lehi house was definitely not perfect, but was a huge upgrade from that. In a perfect world no one would be inconvenienced, ever. But if no change was going to be made, either by swapping apartments or enclosing an outer walkway, then someone was going to be inconvenienced. Meri decided that 13 other people should be inconvenienced rather than her, and Kody let her do it.

I hear ya. I could hold a grudge against Meri for 30 years and beyond though, because nothing is ever her fault. She isn't going to apologize for her part in anything, and frankly I don't think it's even good to do a "forgive and sweep under the rug" for people like that...you're really just pushing down your resentment and it's just going to come out later and be an even stronger resentment when it does come out. As far as what has Nancy been doing all these years? Good question. From what I can tell, she's been teaching them not to communicate about real issues at all. They're too busy being concerned with communication style, and things being safe. Just before the start of this season, I re-watched some of last season. There's an episode where they meet at the picnic table to discuss communication. Before the meeting, Janelle met with each other wife separately, telling them things like "we communicate, but not effectively. We talk but we don't get anything done." I thought great, you guys actually do need this! Maybe you can learn to talk about real issues, real solutions, real decisions. This will be a good meeting for them. Nope. They got to the picnic table, Janelle got out a big easel for everyone to write on, and then they all marched up and wrote "I NEED" statements down. I need to be heard, I need to feel important, I need kindness, blah blah blah. It was all emotions. Not one actionable item. Not one real way to make decisions for their future, or talk about issues in their past. Every single one of them went up and wrote "I need THIS from the rest of you assholes", then they sit back and wait for each other to fill their black holes of need. The truly mind-boggling thing to me was at the end, they all thought they had made great progress,

Could not agree more, especially with the bolded, in fact that's what I was alluding to in the last sentence of my post...in my opinion, Meri would never have gone for the switch, because privacy was not really her goal. Her refusal to go along with a switch would have revealed that. If that apt was good enough for Christine, it should have been good enough for Meri, but it wouldn't have been, because she's special and entitled. If she really wanted privacy, she would have wanted Christine's apt, where no one would ever need to walk through, and she could have even put a lock on the internal connecting door. But it was never about that. I bet Christine would have lived in the middle apt and never complained about Meri and Mariah needing to walk through to get to Janelle's. If I had any video skills, this is where I'd put in that video clip of Kody looking right at the camera and saying "Can I just say....WET BAR?" Meri needs something to bitch about, because she's a miserable, unhappy person. An apartment swap would have fixed her "people walking through" issue, so then Meri would have found something new to cry and bitch about, because Meri must always, always have something that is her "wet bar of tears".

So I'm trying to wrap my head around the timeline, and the "improvements" made to Coyote Pass. They are installing the cistern on this episode, filmed roughly a year before Janelle lived out there in the RV. So, nothing else happened in a whole year? Janelle did not seem to have access to any kind of utilities when she was out there, and I guess I was thinking the big plastic water tanks she had didn't seem to be anything that came from this cistern. So, am I missing something? Wouldn't electricity, to pump water from the cistern, have been the next step? That doesn't seem to have happened.

I get that no one would want Janelle's and Christine's kids going through our living rooms. I agree that I wouldn't. But we didn't choose this kind of life, either. Meri chose polygamy, and Meri was fine with Janelle using her inheritance to help buy this home. She was fine with Janelle and Kody being the ones making the mortgage payments. The parents of the children in question help pay for the roof over Meri's head, which she considers all hers. She wants the perks of polygamy without any of the inconveniences. Yes, it is a short distance outside. It's also a short distance inside. Janelle offers to work full time and share her income with the family. Christine offers to provide childcare and make dinner so that Janelle can work. And Meri offers conflict. Bottom line for me is, if Kody had any balls at all and was any kind of leader and father, he could have settled this easily. All he had to say was "Meri doesn't like people walking through her home. Christine and Janelle are co-parenting and my kids need access to both of those homes. Meri and Christine will switch apartments. Moving day is Saturday." Boom. Meri has privacy, Christine and Janelle have all the access they want to each other without bothering Meri. And if Meri had fought him on that decision, then he'd have known it was never about privacy at all, but pettiness and control.

Shut up Robyn, you don't want to circle around Ysabel. You don't give two shits about her, obviously.

Watching Kody's dysfunctional brain is boring to me. How many uses does he have for his fictional house? It's his house, it's a guest house for visiting adult children, it's a rental that will generate income... It can't be all those things, Kody. His use for his "fifth house" changes depending on which wife he's justifying his nonsense to.

Meri wants to call it a "wall", but it's actually emotional manipulation. She wants to cry and get defensive whenever anything is said that she doesn't like. Calling it a "wall" makes it sound a lot more innocent than it actually is. She manipulates Janelle and everyone else into stopping whatever they are saying.

Yeah, it was cool when Meri was going to bring up "I heard you've been talking behind my back, Janelle" but now it's going in a way Meri doesn't like anymore. DEPLOY THE WALLS!

🤣 It was awesome seeing Meri and Sam back together after all these years. Such a cute couple.

Thinking the same thing as I watched...unless they managed to stay completely silent on social media, did not give the story to People mag, and avoided ALL the tabloids, they did not get married on their originally chosen date. Could be something as simple as they decided to wait due to Covid, though.

Yay!!!! Meri/Banana porn!

Loving Christine's new TH hairdo. ETA: The one where she has some of her hair pulled back.

I have to respectfully disagree with part of this, but I do agree with the last bit - in as much as they don't like Meri, don't want to be around her too much, can't share a kitchen...that part, yes, I feel you there. But Janelle and Christine recently vacationed to Disney together, and back in the days when they lived in the Lehi house, were co-parenting, etc. I don't think the problem has ever been all three of them getting along...two of them, J & C, seem to get along just fine. The problems crop up whenever Meri is involved in the mix. Therefore, the part I can't agree with is that anyone else living in the center apt would have also pitched a hissy fit about kids walking through. I think that's a "Meri only" thing. I think anybody else would've sucked it up and not complained because it benefitted the kids. We'll never know of course, because it didn't happen that way.

Lehi house. Pre-Robyn. It was a plural arrangement, without question. The fact that Janelle is overweight does not make her less of a person, or make it okay for Meri to force her to do anything, including exercise "for her own good".

But you did not sign up to be a plural wife. To me, this is looking at it through the lens of monogamy. Of course none of us wants a bunch of kids walking through our homes. Most of us wouldn't want this more communal way of living. But this is supposed to be one family. These are supposed to be "everyone's" kids. These people DID sign up for this way of life. This home Meri's claiming as "hers" was purchased with Janelle's inheritance as a down payment, and Janelle's full-time job, along with Kody's, making the mortgage payments. Those are Meri's husband's children, not some random neighborhood kids. Christine is offering to babysit them and make dinner, while Janelle works and shares her hard earned money. Each is willing to contribute to the family. While Meri sits in the middle and screams "MINE! MINE! MINE!" about an apartment someone else is paying for. I have no time or sympathy for this selfish hag.