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sleepysuzy

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  1. To be fair, Austin and Joy's message to which she was responding also contained 4 emojis.
  2. Now I wonder if Lauren's anniversary post is also indirectly referring to Joy and Austin losing Annabell. She didn't list everything, just said more downs than ups. I take that statement to be qualitative, not quantitative. She had a pregnancy loss around 9 months ago, the grandma without whose support the kids would literally not have had clean clothes passed away, and her sister-in-law had a fetal demise at a point when most people feel their pregnancies are safe, which could bring up fears of loss in all of the other pregnant women in the family as well, and even more so for someone whose only other pregnancy was a miscarriage. Lauren does not strike me as being as offensive as many others find her to be. I've been told I'm too naive and optimistic about other people, but I just don't see the point in reading everything she ( and others like Jill) say and do in the worst possible tone. I usually skew to the opposite, trying to see how something could have been meant as inoffensively as possible. I don't usually attribute malice until I have more direct evidence.
  3. If Joy sincerely sees Counting On as a ministry, I could see her agreeing to share all of this as a way to make her loss meaningful. It allows her to connect on a personal level to other women who have experienced such losses, which is an underrepresented population in all media. She can demonstrate how her faith helps her through her grief, with the hope that it might draw others to faith as well. The very stigma that pregnancy loss should be kept private could be the reason for making it public. It's an affirmation that her baby was real because her grief is real, and this resonates with others who have not seen their own grief and loss reflected in traditional and social media.
  4. My kids are only a few years older than Felicity. The giant bows were not in style yet, but headbands with giant fake flowers were. For the girls, part of the reason to put headbands on them was to train them to get used to having their hair styled. I can't stand to wear headbands or hats because I never wore them growing up, and I wanted my daughters to have a tolerance to having things on their heads so they can wear a style if they like it. I know that might sound strange, but I do not force them to wear anything they don't want to keep on. The oldest mostly keeps her hair loose, but likes hats and clips. Middle daughter keeps her hair buzzed in back and about 1.5 inches on top, but wears lots of bows and headbands. Youngest loves ponytails and bows. As long as Felicity doesn't mind the bows, I have no problem with them. Jojo Siwa and her giant bows hit the preschool crowd around a year ago, so it's a pretty mainstream trend.
  5. Autopsies can be done, but most families I know decline because they want to have a memorial service, burial, etc and move on. Not to get too gruesome, but babies remains are delicate and do not last long. Autopsies delay the process. Also, most of the time no definitive answer for why the baby died can be found unless it was fairly obvious at delivery, like a problem with the placenta or fetal anomaly.
  6. How very sad for Joy and Austin. At the 20 week point, most women are still only seeing their providers once a month unless they have known complications in pregnancy. If you read Joy's Instagram responses from other people, you'll see lots of other women and some men are commenting with stories of their own losses, at all stages of pregnancy and even infant and child loss. Amy says she's sure Annabell is with Grandma in heaven. I don't think what Lauren said is offensive in their culture. It reads more like comfort: Annabell is not alone, she's with family and Jesus, etc.
  7. Some anti-Semites beat you to the punch on this idea last year, and it was pretty big news. https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2018/digital/news/celebrities-duped-by-white-supremacists-into-making-anti-semitic-messages-using-video-app-1203071233/amp/ When I saw Jinger was signed up for Cameo, I remembered reading about it.
  8. https://images.app.goo.gl/YWzRk9dPUyAR1jD26 Nurie, like Jill, looks much prettier with less makeup and toned down hair.
  9. I'm also a natural blonde with mostly invisible eyebrows and lashes, as are my children (blonde and ginger). I think we get used to seeing either dyed blonde or red hair on people with naturally darker hair, or people using makeup to fill in the color. Josie looks totally normal to me.i do not fill in or color my brows, and only wear mascara occasionally. I think it looks strange to draw even light brown eyebrows on my face, but I'm used to my natural look.
  10. Jill posted a rundown of the Keller family children on FB, and said Nathan runs a law care business with one if his brothers. She also said the courtship started a few weeks ago.
  11. I think Jill would prioritize getting as many people (read gifts) as she could for the newlyweds, which would mean strategically planning the wedding for a date when the most, and wealthier, fundy families could come.
  12. Isn't it usually a few months courting and 3-4 months engaged? November is only 4 months away.
  13. I wonder if the families that use letter themes for names come up with lists for boy and girl names to draw from before they settle on a letter. Anna vetoed Mary, and we know Madison and Marjorie are likely off limits, so I imagine a list with names crossed off.
  14. I have no problem with Michelle, or any woman, breastfeeding in public, with or without a cover. I fed my babies whenever they were hungry, and I certainly was not going to pump and use a bottle just because some people have hangups about breasts being sexual. I pumped to tube feed two of my children for months until they were well enough to feed orally. We worked so hard to be able to breastfeed that it made me even more passionate about advocating for breastfeeding. Some breastfed babies will not take a bottle, especially from their mothers. My son would take a bottle when I was at work, but not if I was home. One daughter would "reverse cycle," sleeping and fasting until I came home and refusing bottles for up to five hours, then cluster feeding once she could nurse. I find it interesting that Michelle's public breastfeeding and her daughters' commitment to homebirthing are areas where very conservative and very liberal populations tend to overlap. People can complain all they want, but women can breastfeed anywhere they are legally allowed to be.
  15. My guess would be that any genuine message Lauren posted would have to include a mention of Asa, because omitting her miscarried child would feel wrong to her. However, if she is aware of the backlash she is getting, she could have decided to just skip any social media posts for Father's Day.
  16. Jill Rodriguez is teasing a big announcement on July 1. Her options are: courtship for Tim, courtship for Nurie, courtship for Kaylee, or baby #4. Many people are guessing all of the above.
  17. They look relaxed, comfortable, and happy in these pictures. Maybe the tension from earlier pictures was due to the pressure to get pregnant. Now that they have a pregnancy in the second trimester, they could be breathing a sigh of relief.
  18. As someone active with groups like ICAN, I read his post very differently than you. There is a huge movement to reduce the csection rate in the US and to do csections differently: allow for skin-to-skin in the OR, lowering the drape or using a clear drape so the mother can see the baby sooner, etc. Many hospitals still have not adopted these practices. Furthermore, the csection does effect the rest of the family. Maternal complications are generally higher for csections. My husband was present for my csection and my three vbacs, and he found the csection to be terrifying. It was not planned, but not an emergency, just failure to progress. Nevertheless, the doctors forgot to bring him into the OR, and I had to tell them to bring him in after they had already started cutting me. I had a bad reaction to the drugs, causing convulsions and vomiting during the surgery. He thought I was dying. Our son was born with a spontaneous pneumothorax and had to go to the NICU, and I had to tell my husband to go with the baby because he was afraid to leave me. My story is not even close to being unique. ICAN (International Caeserean Awareness Network) and groups like allow women to share their stories and advocate for better practices. I don't think csections are always bad or that doctors and hospitals are evil, but women (and their families) do need to be advocates. It is certainly not just a fundie thing. The csection rate nationally is double the WHO recommended rate, and once rates go much over 15%, they stop correlating to better outcomes. Csections are, IIRC, the most common major surgery performed in the US, with around 30% of deliveries being by csection. Hospitals that serve poor and minority populations tend to skew even higher. One hospital where many of my relatives go had a csection rate of 60%, and unsurprisingly every baby in my family born there was delivered by csection. I get a bit riled up by this topic.
  19. My social media feeds have plenty of posts from women of all religious beliefs and backgrounds memorializing pregnancy losses on Mother's day, infant and child loss day (October 15), and many other times throughout the year. A major point in loss support groups is not to minimize early loss. Gothard, fundamentalists, and Laren Duggar are not unique in this. I know women with living children who mourn for and have given names to early first trimester losses. Single moms, women who have been divorced multiple times, career women with college degrees - about as different from the Duggars as anyone.
  20. Regarding kindergarten: I live in PA and worked in a private early learning center. Public schools changed their regulations a few years ago so all students entering kindergarten had to be 5 before September 1, no exceptions. Furthermore, children had to meet that criteria for each grade, so kids couldn't do a kindergarten program in a private school a year early and then go to the public school in 1st grade a year ahead. I went to public school in WV in the 80s, and started kindergarten at age 4. I was always ahead academically, but socially and emotionally I was not on the same level as my peers. I advocate for parents to wait until kids are 5 for kindergarten. My oldest daughter is finishing kindergarten soon. She turned 6 in September just a few days after the cut off. We are private schooling, and she is reading well ahead of her peers, but I want to keep her with her group for social development. My second daughter is in preschool and already reading single syllable words, but she will still do her second year of preschool and go to kindergarten as a 5-year-old who will turn six that fall. America starts formal education early by global standards. I think it is far too early to worry about this generation's education, except Anna's kids. If they get plenty of time to play and someone reads to them daily, at this stage they are okay.
  21. After having a large baby, Joy's abdominal muscles are probably weaker, even after losing weight, which would allow her expanding uterus to show more. If her goal is a vbac, the position of the baby can be as important or more important than the size. My csection was for by first and smallest baby, at 8 lbs 15 oz. For my vbacs, I did positioning exercises and chiropractic care along with normal prenatal care. If the ahow is just going to be following the family as they keep having babies, they could at least make it interesting by looking at various approaches to maternal health. Joy could try a chiropractor, acupuncture, hire a doula, etc.
  22. I hope that, if Joy is trying for a VBAC, she finds a supportive provider in a hospital. I had an unplanned csection for my first, followed by a vbac 22 months later, them two more vbac births with intervals of 26 and 18 months. Recovery and taking care of babies and young children was easier without also dealing with surgical recovery for myself. I wonder what kind of obstetric model the hospitals there use. My hospital switched to a midwifery model before my second pregnancy, and midwives handle all non-surgical births, even for vbac deliveries, and they helped me deliver my last two, who were both face up and had some dystocia due to positioning and size (11 lbs and 10 lbs 10 oz, respectively). Today is my youngest birthday, so those midwives and that birth is on my mind.
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