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That's what I immediately thought. Both of them in The Empty sounds interesting.

He also said he really likes episode 22. Jared is the one that appears to like the finale. Jensen seems to not be saying anything about it.

I read it that the poster was "irritated" Mary didn't talk to Sam instead. We are talking about this episode. Let me tell you where I am coming from. From the beginning of the season we see Dean constantly texting and calling his mom trying to check up and see how she is doing. He even asks her if it's ok to call her mom and admits that he's turning into a needy teenage girl. We are shown Dean initiating the original contacts with Mary. We are not shown her initiating contact. Instead she just responds to him when he reaches out. In this episode, if you look at the computer screen you will see three messages from her sons. One is from Sam asking the name of somebody. Two are from Dean. One is a report of some kind but the other is titled "just checking in". The show has shown us that Dean is regularly initiating contact with his mother and checking on her. The show has not been showing us that Sam is initiating a lot of contact with his mother to just check on her. In this episode Dean calls mom and leaves a heartfelt message saying he needed to talk. I got the impression that the post was why didn't Mary call Sam instead of calling the person that said he needed to talk. Why should his mother call Sam when Dean is the one that needs to talk to her and she is responding to his efforts to contact her. Maybe the show needs to show us that Sam is doing something to keep in contact with his mother but it isn't. It is showing us that Dean is. So it is only natural that Mary calls back or text the person that is keeping in contact with her regularly and said he needed to talk to her. As I said before, Dean doesn't have much of a storyline this year at all. So much has been taken away from Dean this season that I am just fine with Dean being the contact with Mom because he has been initiating it where we don't see Sam doing the same. This wasn't the first comment I have seen that Sam fans are "irritated" Mom isnt texting/calling Sam. Like I said before, leave Dean something this season even if it's just being the point of contact with Mom. And yeah, they have turned Dean into a needy teenage girl when it comes to Mom.

Yes. Very True.

Dean has been deconstructed so thoroughly this season. He is either driving around or knocked down while Sam kills all the monsters. Sam stays up all night doing all the research. Sam comforts all the guests while Dean stands in the background mute if he's even present. This episode weapons expert Dean has to ask Super Sammy if he can fix the Colt. And now there are complaints that Dean talks to his Mom. As utterly lame as it is, Dean's relationship with his Mom is the ONLY storyline he has this season. Oh I forgot, he has the I'm worried about Cas storyline too!

Responding in the bitch/ jerk thread

So now Dean shouldn't be even able to get the calls from his Mom. This is more appropriate for a different thread.

I found the info: Last week numbers were ,479 and ,450 so apparently people tuned out. This week they were ,503 and ,516 so people must have been enjoying the episode.

Oh..Thank You.

If it was because people were happy to see Cas, wouldn't the ratings have been higher last week? I honestly don't know why the uptick. I wonder if it was just because the CW promoted it a little more.

LOL

I want a Dean/Ketch showdown. I want an epic fight where Dean takes out Ketch. Only fair when Sam has gotten all the big kills for how many episodes.

I thought the acting was really solid by everyone in this episode (except Lady Toni). Some writing missteps but not bad. Sam fixing the Colt still makes me angry but I thought it was a solid episode. It might have helped that for the first time ever, I waited to watch until I could fast forward through the ads. I suspect that the additional advertising we got this time helped stabilize the ratings. I was originally expecting a drop. Wonder why the additional advertising.

I do kind of like Ketch. The actor is good at portraying a psychopath.

I suspect that was Jensen's choice. I didn't have a problem with it.

Yeah. I don't expect much for Dean next few weeks. Dabb says the boys will be Generals. What do you want to bet Sam is the General and Dean is Sgt. Schultz.

Yeah. But Dean wasn't entirely useless this time. It was an improvement. I'm at the point I'll take what I can get.

I guess I am to the point that it doesn't take a lot to make me excited. Dean wasn't useless tonight. First episode I have enjoyed since Regarding Dean. Yeah, it had problems (Sam can you fix the Colt among others) but Dean wasn't totally useless. Yeah!!!

And another one that features....wait for it.....Sam. Don't try and tell me they give a dang about Dean. Yup. Dean who?

And we have another one. Yeah! Dean is in it....BEHIND Sam.

Really it was just Baby. The star of The Vessel was the girl. Dean by his own admission was an observer that episode. Casifer and Sam had as much going on in that episode as Dean did.

When, no matter who has the action arc, all the show runners can talk about is Sam even when asked about Dean it shows who they are most interested in.

And we have our new one and it features......MARY.

True! I was really disappointed that the show seemed to have no clue what to do with Dean's storyline. Jensen even commented on the writers not being able to give him any idea what they were trying to do. Saying they back burnered it is being generous.

I have always said that even when Sam is the focus, he isn't always presented as sympathetic. Part of the time it's the writing and some of the time it is how Jared chooses to say the lines. Being the favorite of the showrunners isn't necessarily a good thing with SPN.