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I'm pretty sure it was Kripke at the time who said flat out it was the army man and not Dean.

We even got Sam throwing how he had been tortured by Lucifer himself in Lady Toni's face. Just like they throw it in Dean fans faces constantly.

Well the Show sure compared them. And is STILL using Sam/Lucifer storyline how many years later. I wish Lucifer had stayed in the cage after season 5. All this!

Standing up and cheering for you saying this so well!! We are in Season 12 and Show is still hitting us over the head with Sam went to hell. When was the last time we heard anything about Dean and hell. If it wasn't for Jensen throwing in a hesitation at the top of the stairs when he went to save Sam, you would never know he was going back for the first time. I really don't understand the logic of Show doing such a horrible job with such a hugely popular character.

Yes!

I don't think it's Oz. I would think the Empty would also be VFX heavy. Oz would come out of nowhere. The Empty has been mention several times much more recently. JMO

This may cause an uproar too but I think Jensen's acting is excellent at making his character sympathetic. He changes the deliver to do that. Take the talk with God over his abandoning earth. The writers intended Dean to be angry but Jensen changed the delivery. Instead of coming off as an angry hothead, he broke our hearts. Interesting. It would be interesting to see how the rest shakes out.

For the life of me, I don't understand how the writers thought a lot of stuff made Sam look good. It is apparent that they didn't really understand how it would be received by the audience.

The hell storyline is a deep source of frustration for Dean fans Yes, Sam told Dean that "No one would have held out that long" regarding hell and torture and then started within a few episodes mocking Dean for his guilt over it and telling him how weak he was. I can't really take that praise seriously. Sam does that a lot. Tells Dean he is a good whatever and then pretty soon actions and words show he really didnt mean it.

And didn't he apologize when he left the message that Zachaiah changed. Sam may not have gotten it but Dean did apologize.

I thought he he did apologize because isn't that the episode where Sam gives him a major beat down and walks out. Then Bobby gives Dean the famous Princess speech and Dean has to cave and go grovel in to Sam..

Actually Benny said they probably wouldn't make it with the angel tagging along. It would have been in his best interest to let Cass die in a situation where Dean wouldn't blame him for the death.

We saw Benny save Cass when he could have just not hurried quite so fast to help him in the fight. Dean would not have been able to blame Benny for Cass dying in that situation and it would have been easier to get out of purgatory without Cass.

I would choose my husband over anyone...doesn't mean I would murder someone to save him.

But he didn't say it. Our interpretations are just headcanon And Dean actually verbally apologized and took those words back. He apologized for a lot of stuff when he got cured of being a demon.

But he didn't say it. Our interpretations are just headcanon

We also have this from sex and violence: Sam: ok, fine. You know why I didn't tell you about ruby, and how we're hunting down Lilith? Because you're too weak to go after her Dean. You're holding me back. I'm a better Hunter than you are. Stronger, smarter. I can take out demons you're too scared to go near. Dean: That's crap Sam: You're too busy sitting around feeling sorry for yourself. Whining about all the souls you tortured in Hell. Boo Hoo..

I seem to remember Dean said Benny was a better brother when he was under the influence of the cursed coin. Dean harbored major guilt for killing Benny so I don't think you can say he had no regrets. Show has not shown us what Dean would have done if he didn't think Benny could have come back with Sam. Also they told us Dean buried Benny instead of burning him.

I couldn't stand Rowena in the beginning. The acting was so over the top for me. Actor has toned it down quite a bit so I have liked her in some of the more recent episodes.

Dean didn't think he was really killing Benny at the time. He thought Benny would hitch a ride back with Sam. It was only after that didn't happen that Dean said he had ended up killing Benny for Sam.

If you can count what Dean said under the influence of a supernatural entity I can do the same. In the asylum, Sam told Dean how pathetic he was and that he was a mindless tool for his father in a pretty vicious outburst..Sam then goes on about how he (Sam) could think for himself. I can find a lot more of Sam ripping apart Dean pretty viciously than I can find of Dean doing the same. As far as trial and error, ditto to what AERYN13 says above.

Count me as one who wishes Mark P never made an appearance after Season 5.Back in the day, I liked Rufus. More contemporaneously, if they wrote her better Mary has some potential.

But how do you really fault the show for hiring the people that got the most positive reactions from the audience. I don't have a clue. I also wish they had done things differently for the twins family.

OK then what about Sams speeches in the purge and the next episode where he told Dean how selfish he was and that he didn't want to be his brother. I can find a lot more to Sam from Dean praising him than I can find of Sam praising Dean.