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S02.E08: All My Life, My Heart Has Yearned for a Thing I Cannot Name
marshmallows replied to juno's topic in Euphoria
I mean a lot of shows incorporate music. But this was too long. We did not need the full song. I like how One Tree Hill incorporated music. They would have Bethany Joy Lenz's character Haley or other bands start the song and sing so you would get to hear the lyrics but then it would flash to other characters and the music/lyrics would match the mood and situations of the other characters. And then the other characters typically also got dialogue and the music would fade out but still be in the background. I thought this is what Euphoria was going to do. If they just wanted to focus on his song, then they should have cut it in half or if it had to be a whole 3-4 minutes, don't put it in your season finale. -
S02.E08: All My Life, My Heart Has Yearned for a Thing I Cannot Name
marshmallows replied to juno's topic in Euphoria
Crazy season finale. Fez needed to just let Ash go down for this. Ash is out of control and on a dangerous path for someone so young. Juvi would do him some good and his sentence would not have been as harsh considering he is a minor. Fez did him no favors by not allowing the FBI to just arrest him. He ended up dead instead. Honestly, Lexi deserved Cassie blowing up on her. Cassie is definitely off her rocker and I do not see her as the "good guy" but she didn't deserve her life to be displayed to a room full of her peers, peers parents, and possibly some strangers. Lexi was wrong for this play. I do NOT believe for one second that Rue has really changed. If she has, the euphoria writers are going to have to figure out something else to do with her character. Because as of the first 2 seasons her entire character revolved around Drugs and Jules. And now both of those are gone. I screamed when Maddy slapped Cassie and ran her into that brick wall. I had been waiting for this. Loved how Maddy told Cassie "This is just the beginning." Referring to Cassie's comment about Nate dumping her. Maddy looked satisfied that it will be Cassie going through the emotional rollercoaster that is a relationship with Nate instead of herself. Almost like that will be better punishment to Cassie than any ass whooping Maddy could give her for her betrayal.- 43 replies
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YES to all of this. Those previouslies explained NOTHING. I have very little idea as to what happened last season pertaining to the car crash and the children drama. I also have apparently forgotten every character's name except the main three.
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So I just finished this last night. I guessed in the first episode that it was either Simon or the teacher. By the 6th episode I knew Jake had to be involved. So it was all fairly easy to guess, but I still don't understand Jake's motive for killing Simon. I get his motive for wanting to frame Addy (it's sick and twisted, but it made sense). Why would Jake want Simon to actually die? The show did not do a good job of explaining this part to me. I know the book ends differently. I didn't read it, but I had to google the ending once I saw this. Other comments: Nate and Bronwyn not ending up together in the end was such contrived drama for next season because there was clearly more going on between them besides the Bayview Four Murder Club drama.
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My step dad has a serious drinking problem. If he died today, I wouldn't see him any differently tomorrow. He has been an amazing step dad to me and husband to my mom. He is flawed and not perfect, but no one is. He tries to do better and has been sober for like 4 years or so. Jack's drinking may have caused some problems but nothing incredibly major. As for Nicky, he went off the deep end and Jack did what he thought was best for his family at the time. Not saying it was right, but I understand where he is coming from. This is similar to Rebecca's decision to keep Randall from his biological father. I would need an example of Jack being controlling because I do not see it. And Rebecca babied Randall too much. People make mistakes. It doesn't negate the fact that Jack was a good father and Rebecca is a good mother. Everyone is flawed and to say otherwise is ridiculous. I don't think anyone is saying Jack isn't flawed. But, he was also a good father, husband, and overall person.
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That dinner was so awkward, but quite comedic so I am okay with it even if it is not all that realistic. Put me in the boat with everyone who could not care less about the Deja/Malik storyline. I also find Malik to look so young it takes me out of the story. I know he isn't 14 but he looks like it and it makes me cringe when watching. And it really doesn't have anything to do with his height. My father and my husband are both 5'5 and I have seen photos of them when they were 20 like the actor playing Malik is, and they never looked this young at that age. I don't really understand all the Jack hate. Some people are actually good people and don't have a ton of character flaws. Some men are good husbands and fathers. Some people have wonderful marriages. I have seen nothing to show me otherwise with Jack. I actually love that he is just a good man. My great grandparents had that kind of love and my great grandfather was just a really good man. They do exist. I promise.
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Asher doesn't even feel like he belongs in the show anymore. Spencer's martyr complex is really starting to get on my nerves. Honestly, at this point he deserves expulsion just for being so damn stupid. Why would you compromise your entire future for something you didn't even do?! I forgot the name of the girl Liv is helping. But regarding that storyline- I'm so tired of any time anyone uses drugs or alcohol on tv these days it automatically means they are an addict. Sometimes people experiment. Sometimes people like the occasional drink. It doesn't always have to be a problem. Sometimes it is a problem, but modern tv makes it out to be like if you even like to have a beer you must be an addict. It's just tiring. I really need Coop to just have one happy storyline so I am totally fine with her getting Prom queen even though she doesn't attend Crenshaw anymore. Normally this would bother me, but Coop needs some happiness so I will let it slide this time.
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Hats off to momma Grace. Glad someone finally chewed Billy out. Billy rounding up all the seniors was a real half ass way to apologize to Spencer. Spencer deserved better than this. And if I were Spencer I wouldn't be letting Billy off so easy without a sincere one on one apology and talking out their differences. WOW Layla really went for it with Coop. I understand being upset wasting studio time, but she needs to have some compassion and empathy for what Coop just went through. That was a really terrible way to handle the situation. There is standing up for yourself and then there is being just plain nasty and selfish. And this was the latter.
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Billy's behavior is ridiculous. This is really ruining his character for me and I tend to usually be pretty invested in Billy. Of course Coop can't rap anymore. I really need for her to have a happy storyline. And honestly, I do not blame Patience one bit if she can't do this anymore with Coop. But, if the writers want to keep the character around, they really need to involve her with other characters otherwise they may as well just write her out the show. Ugh, I'm just not feeling Layla. I used to love her so much but she is being so over the top. I understand wanting to be heard and that she didn't want a birthday party. But sometimes you just suck it up because having a birthday party thrown for you and your dad calling you Princess is really not that big of a deal in the scheme of things. She is being really melodramatic.
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Billy is being RIDICULOUS. What he said to Spencer was cold. Oh Coop always the martyr. Patience might for real break it off with her this time. Gotta say I really like Preach though. He keeps it real. He was totally going to tell that cop the truth and then Coop opened her big mouth. Which I get why Coop did it. Preach saved her life. Preach also has a daughter who no longer has a mother because Preach killed his daughter's mother to save Coop's life. When you think about it like that, Coop really just feels like she is doing the right thing to help Preach out. But, man this show never gives Coop a break.
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That would have been a much better and logical storyline.
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Oooff that was a lot. I could care less about Otis and Maeve. I wasn't even into them in the first season when they may have actually had potential and some mild chemistry. They should have put them together early in s2 and then have them break up over something dramatic if you still want the audience to be invested or break them up over them realizing it was just something they built up in their heads and then let them properly move on with more interesting love interests. But dragging it out this long makes it to where they really can't put Maeve or Otis with someone else without the impending doom of them ending because the writers seem so dead set on Maeve/Otis being endgame but not until the very end of the entire series. It is going to make me soooo beyond upset/irritated if Jakob isn't the father. It makes Jean look irresponsible and ignorant. And like she really was trying to trap Jakob. Lets seriously hope the writers turn this around and just let Jakob be the father. Jakob and Jean have far more interesting issues to work through than "who is the baby daddy?" And my oh my how the tables have turned from s1 to the end of s3 for me on Eric and Adam. Eric was by far my favorite character and I felt very protective of him and now that has switched to Adam. Eric's breakup with Adam seemed so OOC for Eric to be so dismissive and cruel. Adam has recently come out of the closet and does not have the accepting home life that Eric has. Adam also has deep seated issues with his father which has caused Adam to have self esteem and self identity issues as well as abusive tendencies toward others. But he has really been working on all of that through s2 and s3. And by no means am I saying Eric has to stay with Adam because of any of this, but he could have had a little more grace and tact when breaking up with him. Eric was quite cruel and seemed so nonchalant about the breakup because he wants to "fly." Whatever Eric- you had an exhilarating night of risky fun in a gay night club in Nigeria, that is not everyday life. They are also 17 so I'm not sure what nightclub Eric thought he and Adam were going to go to. (And I'm from the US, so night clubs for teenagers are slim and typically require parental drop off at minimum, it may be different in the UK). This breakup just seemed premature and I wasn't really shown on screen how Adam is holding Eric back. Adam just wasn't ready to tell his family, but he was completely out at school and in public with Eric. With everything Adam has went through with his parents I can see why he would have reservations about telling them. Idk I'm just really disappointed in this because I loved the Adam/Eric ship and I have really grown to like the Adam character. He and Aimee are actually two of the best written characters. Speaking of Aimee- at least her break up with Steve has been building all season. Their break up made a lot of sense to me and we were shown why that was going to happen unlike the Adam/Eric break up. I know this whole post sounds like a bash, but I truly do enjoy this show, it was just a weird season finale with a lot to unpack that I wasn't so happy with.
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Eric really disappointed me this episode, kissing someone else. NOT COOL dude, especially while your boyfriend back home is trying to figure out how to write a poem for you. Liked the Adam/Rahim scenes. I wonder if the show is going to push that romantically this season or next especially if Adam finds out about Eric kissing some one else. Eric was kissing Adam behind Rahim's back and now he is kissing a stranger in Nigeria behind Adam's. This is starting to become a pattern and not just Eric really having feelings for Adam. Hope is a real b*tch. Sorry but there are no other nicer words for her, actually just meaner ones. She is absolutely terrible and completely abusing her power. I feel like the show is trying to make us think someone else above her is pulling the strings to make her behave this way, but I really didn't understand that scene. So if that was what the show was trying to convey they did a poor job or I really didn't pay good attention.
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So I'm really late to the game. But overall, I really liked the show and most of the characters. I just have a few issues with some of the characters. I feel bad for Maeve and her home life, but how she treats Jackson is just horrible. Jackson isn't just your typical popular jock or the "nice" guy. He is genuinely a good person with actual struggles. She won't go out of her comfort zone to do things Jackson might like- like dancing with him or taking photos with him at the dance- even if she isn't into it, it's nice to do things for your significant other sometimes even if it's not something you particularly enjoy especially if it's as harmless as dancing and taking some pictures. I also don't like how she diminishes his struggles with his overbearing mother. I get where Maeve is coming from because her parents didn't care enough to even stick around and she is trying to show him that his mom cares about him, but just because his struggles aren't as hard as hers doesn't make his problems any less real. His mom is really overbearing and puts an immense amount of pressure on him to the point he is on antianxiety meds and throws up before all his swim meets. I just had a real soft spot for Jackson and did not appreciate how Maeve treated him. Ok so Headmaster Groff is a jerk and clearly does not know how to communicate with his son Adam, but Adam is quite horrible. I mean he shows his penis to the entire school, he cheats on exams, he bullies kids. I mean I get his father's disappointment. I think my favorite thing about the whole show was the Otis/Eric friendship. I loved how unapologetically Otis dressed up like Hedwig and danced with Eric at the school dance. It was just so heartwarming to see a straight male/gay male friendship.
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Someone PLEASE answer this! I thought Brady was Jack's brother for the past 2 seasons. My mother who also watches the show, thought the same thing. So were we just imagining this? I am usually very good at following shows plotlines and knowing every little thing about the characters and the plot even when it doesn't make sense. So I am just baffled at how I came to the conclusion that Jack and Brady were brothers, when clearly that is not the case. Did anyone else think this? Back to the overall show- the time line is super confusing. How have 3 seasons passed, and Charmaine does not look the least bit pregnant, Chloe is still an infant that looks maybe 6 months old, and Mel gets pregnant in the matter of what 2 days?? I thought Mel and Mark were doing IVF and it wasn't working. They were clearly having fertility issues so her being pregnant in basically 2 days when it seemed like they tried for months, possibly years, makes ABSOLUTELY no sense. Also if the timeline of the entire 3 seasons has only been about 3-6 months, then Mel and Jack being so in love and talking about babies and getting married is incredibly insane. This show is so frustrating. I pretty hate watch it, but it's like I can't quit it.