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I'm struggling to remember how Lucifer killed new death (Betsy or whatever). Didn't he stab her with a knife or something? I thought Death could only be killed by his own scythe?

I just thought of the worst possible thing they can do in next weeks episode ... a fucking time jump. Ugh, I mean Six Feet Under pulled it off amazingly well, but Dabb and crew don't have that kind of talent. I just thought of the worst possible thing they can do in next weeks episode ... a fucking time jump. Ugh, I mean Six Feet Under pulled it off amazingly well, but Dabb and crew don't have that kind of talent.

The music was awful and totally took me out of the scene (and it was really hard to get into the scene in the first place).

Exactly! There was no soul or emotion in the episode it was bizarre.

I want fan fic of them in in desolate world! I love supernatural apocalypse fic and there's not enough of it (recs welcomed! I need some good fan fic to cleanse my palette, and yes, I'll check the thread, but most of the recs I came across seemed to be slash in nature and I'm mostly looking for gen fics). Anyway, back on topic, I'm just at a loss. It was just, as many have said, so underwhelming. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but it sure as shit wasn't that and maybe they had an impossible task in wrapping it all up and of course it was never going to be perfect and all of that, but the pacing of the whole episode was just all over the place. I would've loved to see the brothers killed or transformed or something, anything. I do like that Jack is gone now so that the last episode will have to focus on just Sam and Dean, small blessing in that. I cringed when Lucifer showed up. My favourite version of Lucifer is when Jared is playing. All I kept thinking of was the scene in "The End" where Dean confronts Samifer and he's wearing that white suit. Wait can we post videos in posts (I'm still pretty new here). I hope this is ok? Ok, we all know this scene. I just wanted everyone to watch it again and contrast it with Lucifer screaming "you're a cuck! you're cuck!". Ugggh I cringed in second hand embarrassment. I think I'm mentally struggling to try to find a way to like the episode, because I need to like, but no because I actually do. If that makes sense?

I ... I, I'm still gathering my thoughts, but one thing I'll add is that I never want to hear Lucifer say "cuck" again uggggh I cringed.

Damn that intense I need some time to think on it, but I wanted to run here to see what other people thought.

My thoughts exactly!

I'm kinda Team Billie right now putting things back the way they were sounds pretty good. And I hope Jack dies, but I'm willing to bet he won't. I really miss the first five seasons of the show they were my favourites. Now I mostly tell people to watch the first five seasons, fanwank why Sam came back and then watch Fan Fiction and then be done.

Did anyone else think that all those cages seemed way too small?

There's another show that used to air called "Fatal Attractions". Both seasons are on Amazon. It's crazy. There's also a documentary called "My Monkey Baby" or "My Child's a Monkey"? It was something like that. There's one called "The Elephant in the Living Room" and one called "America's Most Dangerous Pets" by Louis Theroux. My heart breaks for the animals, but I find the whole subject matter fascinating.

I got Ellen, which I love because she was one of my all time favourite characters

This!

If they make Jack the new God I will scream. Why can't wonderboy just stay dead.

decades a bit, but certainly .....

That's true, I've always got to remember that because it's true, if it seems to be too good to be true, it usually is. It's easy to get swept up into possible romance when you're lonely or desperate for affection and connection with another person. I thought the "someone I feel safe with, someone I can trust" thing was kind of sweet? Like, he was sort of reflecting what she might be thinking or feeling too? Like, essentially saying "don't worry, we can be safe with, and trust each other" or maybe a "I know how you feel" sort of thing? But maybe it was more of a manipulation? I would be tempted to be attracted to Ben. However, I'd like to think I'd run for the hills after he said those things about tying up his wife in version #1 or kicked him out the minute he picked up a drink in version #2. Though in reality I could probably be convinced or manipulated into letting those things go or backing down/away from any sort of conflict (not to get too confessional, but that's one of the reasons I'm afraid to date)

Those that say that Ben was creepy/set off red flags right from the start, why do you feel that way? I liked him, I thought he seemed nice. The only thing that pinged my radar was when he was kind of pushing alcohol on her when they were on the boat. I'm constantly worried that I can't, won't, or don't pick up on signals of danger/unhealthiness in others (I have a history of getting stuck in or getting into abusive friendships/relationships).

Hmmm that is also true. Ok, how about who do you not want to be brought back?

I hadn't heard about that. What happened? What was changed?

Hmmm Dabb is writing the finale that doesn't bode well.

Who would people like to see brought back? And who do you speculate will be brought back? I'm assuming Jodi, Donna, Rowena and Lucifer will return, maybe alternative Bobby and Charlie? I want to see Crowley, Ellen, Jo, and Ash.

Yeah, I suppose I don't either (I seem to recall that he didn't leave on the best of terms), but I think of all the villains in Supernatural he's been my favourite and he was such a part of the show for such a long time. Add me to the group who hate the idea that Jack might become the new God, blech. I definitely do not want the last season to be focusing on or revolving around Jack! But it also feels unavoidable given that Jack is "the most powerful being in the universe" or whatever. Hell, why worry? The Empty and/or Billie/Death (I wish old school Death would show up. I know it won't happen I just really like him) can just send Jack back to Earth lickety-split and he can lock God away like Amara (maybe with Lucifer's help), then he can destroy all the monsters and then everybody can go to the beach.

I bet the whoever's is Lucifer.

I so want Crowley to show up "hello boys". I know Mark Sheppard is on another show right now, but I feel like the show really lost something when his character died.

call Sam and Dean!