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I'm impressed that everyone here seems to know everybody's names. I'm still having a tough time with that, and it's already episode 6 for me. I may have to turn on subtitles to see if I can learn some. Not sure how Mei Lin thought she was going to succeed with that kind of attack and that distance to cover. She would have been better off launching an arrow from far away.

If that's exactly what they did, then they didn't do a good job. She clearly messed up the order of the cities, as her numbers were right and just was ordered incorrectly because she appeared to switch two cities. If the order was second nature to her, then all she needed to do was memorize the numbers of the 8 or so cities. And she seemed to do a great job with that as she was shown singing it to herself. Misti's initial guess seemed to show that she actually had some of the memorized numbers wrong, and not just out of order. We actually don't know how well Bethany and Misti did. There was a shot of Bethany going back to the containers as if she went to double check the numbers, so it may have taken her quite a while. And we don't know how Misti all of a sudden seemed to get her numbers correct. There may be a lot of editing and we won't know until they talk about it in interviews. I saw Brooke in the airport using a laptop, presumably owned by the guy sitting next to her. Have never seen that before on the race. Using a taxi driver's cellphone while he is taking you somewhere is one thing, but a complete stranger's laptop in an airport? I'm not sure if I'd be so generous.

Agreed. It's simply a phrase that he was using to convey that they were last and eliminated. There's certainly no "filming" of the contestants in terms of them being actually used for a movie. They were probably perhaps one hour behind the other teams? And it was still certainly daytime. While I'm ok with the scientists winning, they obviously wouldn't have won if they were eliminated the prior "keep racing" leg. I don't understand why the producers after 25 seasons decided to send four teams on to the finals. It didn't seem like any of the teams really were racing with a sense of urgency in terms of knowing they could be eliminated at any time. Not that we saw at least. The only time any of the racers thought they might get cut is when Phil first showed up and Robbie said "that's not good".

I don't know much about sports bras and whether they work with very big breasted women, but yeah, you would think with her athlete background that she would have found something better at this point. Perhaps while surfing, everything is kind of held in by your wetsuit and you're not really running anyway so you don't notice. She's going to be in line for a breast reduction or at the very least a breast lift at some point in her future. She could have been a little friendlier to the fireman. Instead, she came off as cold. The dad is going to go home to tell his daughter he met Bethany Hamilton, she'll say "Wow, what was she like?", and just what can he really say? She may be well-known in the surfing world, but it's not like she is one of the most recognized athletes on the planet. She could have been more gracious and just wished his daughter well and thanks for her support. Agree about the memory task. You would think after 25 seasons of TAR, that the teams would know that there is some kind of challenge coming up that involves remembering details about the race, usually simply the cities and the order that they were visited. It seemed like Bethany got delayed because she messed up the order, and not by messing up remembering the numbers associated with each city. That is inexcusable. If I were on this show, I'd be constantly quizzing my partner about things like this until it was second nature. It would be nice to involve the other teammate, but then that's I guess part of the strategy. I bet teams now will realize that the person that does the penultimate task may not be eligible to do the final memory task, so you must strategize accordingly.

While I wanted the surfers to win, I'm really happy the scientists won. In the end, it came down to a "brainy" challenge. I think it'd be hard to remember all those cities and numbers and then have to put it all together. I heard the specific "no notes" instructions which made it a true memory task. I think I still remember when Kat and Nat answered the video board final challenge by just consulting all of their notes. Kind of knew that the scientists would do well after Jim's "low hanging fruit" foreshadowing. Jim needs to get his thyroid checked. Those eyes of his are about to pop out of their sockets. So we get to see some Ford voice command feature, which really isn't a huge novelty in cars these days. But what I don't understand is why none of the racers used the navigation in the cars. Unless it was disabled. Or unless there were specific instructions that you couldn't use it. Bethany's breasts are huge. When they were running away after the stunt task, you could see those melons bouncing up and down. It looks painful. She needs a better sports bra. In twenty years those things are going to be down to her waist.

I don't necessarily agree with this. If you are an extrovert than you are excluded from competing? Extroverts are what casting directors look for, they make for good tv. I wouldn't really call Robbie and Brooke professional athletes. They are part of something called TNA wrestling apparently. I'm no wrestling fan, but the only wrestling I've heard of is the WWE, and I'm not even really sure about that. If athletes have advantages over others because of stamina and physical ability, than are the introverted brainy types like scientists and doctors supposed to have an advantage in terms of making smart decisions, booking flights, etc.? I don't see all the love for Amy. Yes, she was a girl having to carry what looked to be heavy delivery loads, at least until she also got one of the handtrucks. She's more out of shape than Robbie, Jim, or Adam. I have a feeling Brooke would have rocked that task a lot better than Amy.

Yeah, utterly ridiculous and hilarious. But we know that Jim isn't really good with details, so I guess he didn't notice. I strangely find myself sort of rooting for the wrestlers. At this point, I'd be ok with any team winning except the dentists. I suspect that even before Amy's pre-race injury, that she kind of walked a little gawky and awkwardly.

Just watched this episode. I see that Honora was on here commenting, but TPTB have removed them. I agree that this environment seemed completely inhospitable. But if they did eat birds and coconuts, etc., why does the editing leave all that out? The show would be so much more interesting if we actually saw them trying to make camp and survive. Instead, we just get footage of them passing out in the sand and sitting around. How much fun is that to watch? After just watching the boring Nicaragua one where they also did nothing, I think I might be done with this show. The titillation factor that drew me in when the series first started is long long gone.

So it's Saturday afternoon and absolutely nothing on tv. So thought I would catch up emptying the DVR queue. This was one of the most boring N&A episodes ever. The out of shape smoker taps out, and then the girl just sits there for 16 days. Literally. Yawn. I think this is the first episode I've seen where the "survivalists" (term used loosely here) don't even have fire or attempt to find food. They showed her making fire once. And after he left, all she could do was to try to crack that one measly nut. Duct tape was interesting, but aside from some coverage for the girl and for a blanket, really what was the purpose? Sure, it allowed them to have a cup to drink water but you could just as easily have fashioned a straw out of something. Seems like they would have been more comfortable with a fire starter.

So did they actually feed the 500 guests? I recall seeing maybe 30 seconds of guests getting food, but then everything else was based on the judges' voting. I didn't like the battles/vs. set-up. As they said at JT, all you have to do is beat one person on your team. So refreshing not to have the pompous Richard Blais this week...

The prison storyline was a bit contrived, sure, and we've all seen it before, but it still worked. A bit laughable however when Antonio walked up to the fence and Atwater just kind of moseyed on backwards, as if nobody else in the prison yard noticed. And I thought that Voight said the warden knew that Antonio was in the prison undercover? Somebody in official capacity at the prison knew that Voight's guys were there undercover,right? When Voight and Olinsky confronted that fat slow schlub at the junkyard, why did he try to run away from them flat out in the open? The suspect said "wait here, I'll ask the manager", then Voight and Olinsky were having a conversation, then we see the slow footed guy run across the platform. Why wouldn't he have gone back into the office or whatever, and then maybe exit through a backdoor or the window? Seemed like he could have tried to get away by going behind the building/junk and not try to run away from them right in front of their face. I don't really care for the new punk cop (Roman?) that is paired with Burgess. Seems like he's a beat cop with a chip on his shoulder because he wants to make it to detective. Sophia Bush is the reason I watch. Dang hot. If she leaves, I think I may stop watching...

First time posting this season. I agree that Richard is way over the top. He's insufferable. It's almost as if he feels he has to justify himself by being on the judges' table, so he makes these snarky and rude remarks and cuts the cheftestants down. If anything, I would expect him to be more understanding and sympathetic, since he's been there two or three times before. Instead of "when I used <some protein>, I created an amazing and succulent dish so I don't see why you couldn't either", it would be nice to see him give more constructive criticism and encouragement. I really don't like immunity. Give them $5000 for the win each time, but do away with immunity. Katsuji was awful and deserved to go home.

I thought the 7 vs 8 petals on the pot was really unfair. Unless there was something equally as tricky on the living room set-up, which there didn't appear to be. Couldn't believe the dentists gave up on this detail oriented task. I'm still unclear if during the sandwich memorization task, if the racers had to get all four sandwiches at once during a single attempt, or if they could get two sandwiches right, then go back and get the other two right after looking at the menu. We saw a lot of racers already have three checkboxes next to the sandwiches and then them getting the last one correct. But not sure if they had given the three correct sandwiches before or during a previous attempt. Hated the dentist plugging her ears while giving the answers. I guess she didn't want to hear anything else because it might be distracting? And she seemed to be bobbing her head around, I suppose she was trying to sing the ingredients? Loved how theatric the wrestler was at giving his answers, guess it comes with his profession. Shelly/Nici. I don't know which one is which, nor do i care. They're both immature, which is only natural since the mom was a teen mom. I can't wait for them to go home. I really don't like the Save. As many have said, it should have been taken away once you decide to present it to Phil. "You've used your Save so you will no longer have it for the rest of the race...but you didn't need to because it was a non-elimination leg!" And it is pretty unclear what happens if they do use the Save for the team that checked in ahead of them, would they be eliminated then? Is there a rule as to when the Save must be used? Because basically this keeps them in the game until whenever it's not able to be used, unless they happen to finish last twice. I wish they would just go back to Express pass for the winners of the first leg. The Save is a really poorly thought out new wrinkle in the game.

Yes, I agree. Her butt didn't go in the water. Which really defeats the purpose of leaning over the edge. Most of her pee, as mentioned in other posts, would just run down her pant leg. To truly have been peeing in the water, she would have had to pull her pants down. I don't see why she just didn't pee sitting in the boat then so as to not draw attention to herself. Or why her mom wouldn't let her fall in accidentally. For being a firefighter, the fatter one who looks like Jon Favreau is completely out of shape. Not at all sad that the Vietnamese-Cambodian couple went home. They kept saying something about how much preparation they had done. I forget their exact preparation skills - did they say they practiced ice climbing or am I misremembering that from an earlier season of a prepared team? Maybe they should have practiced punting. Or at the very least, the dude should have gotten to the gym so he could work on his upper body strength.

Getting really really tired of the Fitz brain damage thing. It's not particular interesting to watch. And he's not a compelling enough actor to make me care.

Agreed. The sisters may not be that popular here on these boards and I'm sure they'd be surprised to find that out. But they are successful and have a thriving real estate business. They admitted in their interview that their looks helps them out in their job, but it's not as if you're going to walk into a million dollar home and decide to buy just because the selling agent is hot. I'm sure it helps them more in attracting clients who choose them to sell their house however, so that's perhaps why their volume is so high. They may have been a bit pretentious, a bit stereotypical pretty blonde, but dang it - they were hot, one of them had real boobs (perhaps?), and they were my eye candy! How sad for TPTB when they saw that the most photogenic team was going home early.

I think there's four reasons why these Bachelor/ette retreads agree to come on the show 1) the possibility of finding their one true love, 2) the possibility of hooking up with a member of the opposite sex, 3) it's a free paid vacation from their real life job, and 4) it prolongs their 15 minutes of fame. I don't know how the producers selected who would be the original cast and who has the disadvantage of coming towards the end and needing to form a relationship instantly in order to stay on the show. I suspect that some of these contestants couldn't commit to an entire month of filming. But one week in Mexico hanging out with half-naked attractive members of the opposite sex? Sure, sign me up! I missed the very first episode of this show where I'm guessing Chris Harrison explained the rules and prizes. My impression is that there is no prize other than being able to leave paradise with a relationship and perhaps future husband/wife. I'm thinking that the show probably gives them travel money so they can go back and forth to see each other. And I'm sure if there was a wedding for Marcus and Lacy that we might get a tv special. But I don't think they win $250000 if they survive to the end. It was widely discussed over at TWOP whether or not Brooks is playing for the other team or if he's a switch hitter. I think when you're watching a show where ostensibly the point is for men to date women and for women to date men, it's only natural to discuss if you think that he may not only be interested in dating women. "Not that there's anything wrong with that." I didn't see any malicious intent in any of the comments. It's no different than objectifying comments such as "Wow, Elise and Christy have fantastic boobs. I wonder if they are real or purchased?" My opinion, FWIW? I think Brooks is very metro. He's sensitive, funny, can carry on a conversation, makes good eye contact, can play HORSE, can paint fingernails - he can do it all and relates well to women. Speculation is going to abound - it's the same thing that Ryan Seacrest gets all the time.

I thought it was pretty hilarious how Christy's talking head started first with her gushing about Jesse. Then they cut away for something. And then she went off on him. She was still wearing the same outfit, so I'm sure it was filmed in the same sitting. Anybody else surprised that Christy knew the term "misogynistic"? That's a big word for a "dumb blonde". Jesse indeed is a misogynistic douchebag. I think he is exactly as we saw it and Christy called him out on it. Yeah, it may be somewhat her fault because didn't she know about his reputation ahead of time? I felt as if she really had no other options when she arrived since Zack turned her down. It seems implied that Jesse and Christy had sex, and that Lucy did some stuff with him too. The girls also kept talking about Jackie. Really? His problem was that he kissed and told and blabbered to everyone there about his conquests, when almost all of the people were already coupled up. He left because he knew he wasn't going to get a rose. ("No, I break up with YOU!") While the scene in the car did drag on - and I'm sure it was producer driven - I enjoyed watching him get what was coming to him. "I came here and accomplished what I wanted to." If that means banging one or two girls, but ruining your already tarnished image AGAIN on national television, then ok Jesse, hope it was worth it. Any girl in the real world who wants to date this misogynistic douchebag after seeing him on tv should hold expectations very low. Brooks seems very funny and I'm surprised Jackie chose the boring Zack (who was attached at the hip to Clare until just a few days prior) over him. Humor goes a long way and they had great chemistry. With some of these guys, I'm wondering if producers asked them how long they wanted to be there. Obviously the originals who are there the longest have the best chance at partnering up and finding love. The ones that come in at the end pretty much have to do so in a day or two or they're gone. Brooks maybe didn't want to come for the whole month, as I think he surely was popular enough amongst past contestants to warrant an original spot. He's probably regretting not coming earlier. "Cody is going to go all Hulk if Tasos picks Michelle." Ha. An apt description. Money even said she wasn't attracted to muscle meatheads, so I just don't see why they're still together. Is it because she had nobody else to choose from? I believe that you're either attracted physically to somebody or you're not, an that instant first impression is hard to change. You can over time be attracted to other qualities and learn to love them - personality, kindness, humor, etc. - but you can't change physical attraction.

Guess I'm in the minority, but I find Christy attractive. Yes, her hair needs a little work. But I find her face pretty and her chest (albeit fake) pretty amazing. That sunburn though was pretty ridiculous. How come she never addressed it in any of the interviews? Did the producers forget to give her sunscreen? I also was wondering why she didn't go after Zack once Clare left. Zack just made a beeline to Jackie. I guess he wasn't interested in Christy either? So did Jesse (yuck) actually have a threesome with Christy and Lucy? We saw in the previews that Lucy was taking her shorts off but it wasn't shown in the actual show. Strange. Sarah is all sorts of awkward. Until she gets over the "no man will like me because I only have one arm", I think she's going to have trouble finding lasting love. I wonder who her crush is that walks in next week.

I missed the first hour of this show. Presumably there is no money involved, and the prize would be a relationship should any of them make it to the end? So at some point when it is apparent that they are all coupled up, then they'll stop sending in a new person strolling down the beach? I find it refreshing that Marquel - the only non-White male - has been highly sought after and has gone on three dates. Did he make it far on Andi's season (I didn't watch)? Usually you have the token man of color who ends up going home right away. Or did Jackie only choose him because she thought he was the only one not coupled up? Is it any surprise that Chris and clingly Elise already don't seem to be together? Didn't everyone warn her that he was a player? I still can't get over Chris saying something like "Elise is talking a lot. I'm all for talking but at some point I'm just ready to stop the talking and get down and dur-tee..." Sleaze ball. He needs to wear a permanent body condom.

Completely agree. This episode has actually caused me to think I might be deleting my Season Pass. Every show has them struggling to build a shelter. Not eating for days. Getting some kind of protein meal one time (in this case, twice with the tiny crab and then the dead bird), sitting around again, and then walking out. There are really no tasks to do other than build a shelter, build a fire, drink water, find food, and then walk out. I suppose in a real life survival situation, that's what you would do. But it makes for really boring tv. At least a few of this season's episodes had some attractive women on the show. Yes, call me shallow. But let's admit, many of us watch for the titillation factor of them being naked, otherwise, why watch at all? 99 cent Miley just didn't do it for me. I was impressed by their very sturdy shelter and the fireplace, which we've never seen. But I wonder how adequate the ventilation of the fire was. We saw them hunkered down for three days and nights (probably around day 16-19), and when they emerged, it was so hilarious. 99 cent Miley came out covered in soot with her hair all scary and bird's nesty. I can't think that was very healthy to be breathing all that smoke. How did they have enough dry firewood to keep the fire going for three days? Where did they store it? Certainly not in the shelter, it seemed too small. Hakim kept calling himself a ninja. Is there such a thing in modern day America? Obviously there were ninja spies in feudal Japan. But now? Does he just fancy himself a athletic guy who can use sticks for weapons and uphold some honor code that only he holds himself to? Is he a card holding member of some Ninja society that he has to qualify for and they have annual meetings? I just thought it was pretentious.

This was one of the worst episodes ever in terms of showing any actual survival skills. They didn't have fire for THIRTEEN days?! And the only thing we saw him eat was the one crab that he caught towards the end. I guess if you're put on an island with coconuts, then you really don't need to be able to catch anything to eat and survive. The dude was pretty much an ass through the whole show. I think it's hilarious that he thought he was going to form some sort of relationship with him. He may think he's a gift to all women of the world, but even putting aside his hard face and big paunch, his personality is just a disaster. The girl was no peach either. Cute girl, but she's got issues. There's two people on the island. You can't give the other the silent treatment. Walking away may be her way of dealing things but it's not productive on the island when you have to work as a team.

What was Nick's end game here? Yeah, we get it, he's got a broken heart. But did he really think he was going to change Andi's mind? Is she going to break up with Josh simply because Nick feels bad and really is still in love? Sheesh. Guy needs to man up and stop acting so pathetic. It's a show. Where there is ONE winner. Who was not Nick. What is so hard to understand? Had Nick played it right, he could have been the wounded finalist who shakes it off and then he could have had a shot at 25 gorgeous women. But instead, he's going to continue to mope in misery and find it really difficult to attract somebody new.

Hmm, seems like I'm still the only one who is completely clueless. It doesn't help that Directv once again cuts off my DVR recording with about ten minutes to go. Anyone else have this problem? I'll give it one more episode but if I'm still this confused next week, then I think I'm deleting this from the Season pass and giving up.

Phew, glad to know I'm not the only one who didn't understand a bit of what happened during the premiere. It didn't help that my Directv for some reason stopped the recording at about 64 minutes, so I didn't get to see the last ten minutes. What happened? Something about a naked Franka Potente washing herself at a carwash? Guess I missed it. I generally liked Season 1, but I'll admit I don't really remember how it ended or what the new plotline was supposed to be. Something about missing women. Perhaps this show is too complicated for me. If it stays like this, I might have to abandon it. TV shouldn't be this hard to figure out...