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Sandra did another podcast interview, and she explains that the whole reason she tells Phaedra to aim for Trishelle is because they wanted CT to get the shield over Trishelle. She says that she's thinking CT is in "The Leftovers" and Trishelle is in the opposite alliance, forgetting in that moment that CT and Trishelle had known each other for over 20 years. She didn't realize in that moment that trying to get CT a shield would have rung some alarm bells with CT. Also, Sandra says that even though she may think or suspect that Phaedra is a traitor, Sandra believes that Phaedra is protecting her. At this point, Sandra believes banishing Phaedra only hurts her game. I believe she's said this before.

He would have definitely had an easier time naming Parvati. Parvati was the only other name that would have feasibly been voted out if it wasn't Dan. Parvati and Dan were the names that had the most buzz when Dan was voted out. Dan was unwilling to throw Parvati under the bus. Didn't they offer a deal to Dan to flip on Parvati? or is that my imagination? Some of the cast in their exit interviews have said that Dan just waited too late to throw out Phaedra's name. Instead of drawing his red strings and sleeping on it, Dan should have been spreading seeds about Phaedra earlier than he did. Dan waited until people were already committed to voting for him. It was too late to turn their heads away from Dan.

I actually think Phaedra wouldn’t have done that to him. i remember Cirie explained why she got rid of Arie in the end, and she said something like Arie wasn’t a traitor for that long. Arie had only done one or two murders, meanwhile Cirie had been going through the stress of being a traitor from day one. She felt he didn’t deserve it. I’m not sure if Arie being there from day 1 would have made a difference but that’s what she said. Phaedra, on the other hand, put some genuine trust in her fellow traitors. Had they made it to the end together, I don’t think she would have gotten rid of them. On the flip side, I think Dan and Parvati would have done it to Phaedra though 😂

I think that made up about 0.5% of her suspicion about Phaedra and Dan’s input made up the other 99.5% of it.

In the first season of the UK version, one guy turned on a traitor every time he was in the hot seat. He would go apeshit just about every time he was in the hot seat. It was entertaining to watch. I just finished season 1 of the UK show. It was amazing!

Yes, the purpose was to take the suspicion off of himself. I don't see that purpose as a distinction. Calling out a fellow traitor is calling out a fellow traitor, no matter the purpose. I understand he could have called out anyone and put that same heat on anyone else also. I understand it's not directly confirming that Phaedra is a traitor, which I assume is against the rules, it still feels like he confirmed that she was a traitor. It's like you have to figure out Blue's clues, and Dan gave 2 of the 3 clues. 😂

I'm usually the first one to say there is no fairness in these games. The players just have to play the hand they're dealt and not the hand they wish they had. ...but I just can't stop thinking about Dan, a person that happened to be a traitor and clearly knows who other traitors are, calling Phaedra out as a traitor and that just seems unfair. I'm not sure if Phaedra makes it out of this hole but it doesn't seem like she's getting out any time soon. So far, her downfall just seems to always go back to a confirmed traitor calling her out. Sure, they point to her her eye-twitches, her body language, and her composure as if they are masters at reading people. They have their "bullet points" as they say, but the one thing they never let go of is the fact that a confirmed traitor forcefully called Phaedra a traitor in front of everybody. Some cast members, Janelle and Sandra most notably, have said they didn't suspect Phaedra. I believe Bergie said in one of his interviews that he doesn't really look at Phaedra until Dan calls her out. Sandra outright said in one of these podcasts that Dan really blew up Phaedra's game. That just feels unfair and that conflicts with my thoughts on "fairness" in these reality show games.

Berna did the same to Nurys in this season (in her interviews, not to Nurys' face). Berna complained about Nurys going off about nobody having her back, excusing it as it being Nurys' fault that she was on the outs. However, apparently, it was forgotten that she was crying, complaining, and had an attitude at the start of the season because she felt isolated from everyone in the house and alone. I cracked! up! every time Berna complained about having to drink that nasty mix. I cracked up every time she was "I can't do it." I laugh when she cried. It felt like I was laughing at Fessy. This was me: I think so but they've done that over the last few finals. Instead of a cumulative time of all the stages determining the winner, they're playing for an advantage on the next stage. They were playing for safety, sabotages and head starts. Then, the final stage is a foot race to the finish with some equalizing checkpoints along the way.

I wish she had recruited CT, Trishelle or Sandra. But the thing is... Trishelle had the shield so I'm not sure if it would have been an empty threat. If Trishelle declined Phaedra's ultimatum, would the shield have protected her? Of the three, my top choice is Sandra. I think Sandra is the least likely to turn on Phaedra. I think CT would turn on Phaedra when it gets convenient. It's sort of his thing on The Challenge. Trishelle would have been interesting because it puts Trishelle on the other side. It would be interesting to see how she navigates being a traitor after spending an entire season chasing shields, pointing fingers and hunting traitors. I just feel like the shield would have protected her from the ultimatum.

Because Sandra votes wherever the numbers are. She votes wherever she thinks the majority is going regardless of if she believes the target is a traitor or not. Her first goal is getting to the end, not trying to be right. If that means leaving traitors around for now, she will do that. Sandra is hiding her vote among the majority. She’s not trying to stand out. She’s not trying to give the traitors a reason to single her out. She’s also not tying to stand out during the banishments. Therefore, she votes wherever the numbers are. I think Sandra is playing in true Sandra style. She got to end on Survivor by blending in and not standing out. Then, she talks her way to $1 million. Sandra never gave people a reason to target her. People never felt like she was a threat.

This is bullshit! They should have showed us the entire banishment vote. It’s hilarious to me that Peter’s Pals made a deal with Parvati to vote for Phaedra in order for Parvati to save herself, and Peter’s Pals use that (their own deal) as evidence that Phaedra is a traitor. 😂😂😂

Air date: February 22, 2024

I liked everything after the Nurys/Moriah elimination. I think the previous checkpoints with all the lifting and moving of heavy shit gave an edge to the men.

If he still lives in Romania, which I will assume he does for now, then it will definitely be life-changing money. I agree. $60K is a nice check for second place. When she said that, the first thing I thought about was all those posts on social media that look like these people are on vacation 365 days a year. 😂

That reunion that I will completely skip is going to be filled with people we forgot were even on this season. 😂

That second place prize is a good chunk of money. I'm glad she got that if she couldn't get first place. I think if she would have stuck out the Sudoku puzzle when she started instead of going back and forth between the different stations, she would have won. However, I understand that sometimes a puzzle can start make to sense after you take a little break from it. I think they lost $16K on that first portion of the final. The second and third place prizes got reduced by a total of $16K across both.

Berna... all the words. She said all the words. Lots of words. Complained the ENTIRE! TIME! If she comes back for future seasons, at least everyone knows how she performs.

I can't even be mad at Emanuel. He completely murdered this entire final.

Air date: February 21, 2024

I had to listen to this again because I definitely wasn't paying much attention the first time. About 1 hour and 4 minutes in, Sandra gives a little tea on the torch-lighting (ceremony?) from the previous episode about CT picking John over Trishelle.

They've been waiting a long time for season 4 of All-Stars. We've had how many flagship and spin-off seasons since season 3 of All-Stars?

I'm not sure I consider that a crack. My initial response to that was maybe she did and we didn't see... but that also got me thinking about her tells broadly. Maybe she is showing more "cracks" or "tells" that we don't see. I know, for myself, the exit interviews and podcast interviews really filled in a lot of gaps as to why people thought Dan and Parvati were traitors. They gave a lot more detail about their thought process and what led them to the conclusion that Dan and Parvati were traitors than what we saw in the episodes. While I understand the edits we see are trying to weave together a story, the interviews gave a lot more details on Parvati's tells and Dan's tells than we ever saw in the episodes, especially the first batch of episodes that came out. It took a little while for the episodes to show us those tells that people were mentioning in the interviews. I'm thinking the same may apply to Phaedra, because they never show us any suspicion about Phaedra until Dan calls her out. That makes me think that the catalyst to Phaedra being in the hot seat is Dan blowing up Phaedra's spot.