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I want to point out that while Melissa was yelling at Josh, Kyle called Josh a floater. The ultimate floater, arguably the best floater this game has ever seen, called Josh a floater. That cracks me up!

BY THE WAY... Am I the only one that thinks Melissa can read me bedtime stories? Her voice is perfect for narrating fairy tales. I can imagine her reading 3 little pigs or something, and me slowly drifting away into a peaceful slumber. LOL!

They still have to slim down the amount of players left. Don't we usually go into a final challenge with maybe 6 to 8 people? My guess is that the purge challenge won't happen until after everyone has red skulls OR after a certain amount of players left (with or without red skulls), which I'm also guessing would still be followed up with an elimination.

The thing I find amazing about the Dee edits is that when she's shown you can barely see her face. When they have to show her, her face is not to the camera and we're looking at the back of her head; when they have to get a wide shot that includes her, it's shown for a second or it's a drone shot that's so far away that she just blends with every one else and you can't single her out. Knowing that this isn't the normal edit that they planned and that they are purposefully avoiding her camera time just cracks me up. At least there isn't a shortage of work for them during the pandemic. LOL! - My feelings on Cory winning over Chris.... same - TJ said something to the effect of the guys not having much time left to get a red skull, so I took that as there's at least one other opportunity left to get a red skull. Also, I'm waiting for that point in time to come where there's no one left without a red skull, where only there's only people with red skulls to choose from. This game has been too peaceful and diplomatic thus far... letting people go in to get their red skulls and giving favors by voting people in. This nice diplomacy shit has got to go. I want guerilla war in the Challenge house.

Josh is extremely delusional. Josh thinks he's good at the game but he's not. Josh has no allies other than Nany... maybe. Josh is of no use to anyone else. He has nothing to offer anyone else in the game. He has nothing to trade. But, we can argue that Josh is probably the perfect person to bring to a final. Unfortunately, Josh just isn't that good. He can be considered a layup in the final... but this is assuming that he can get past an elimination, which he has been terrible at in past seasons.

I'm sure Dee was center-stage until they edited her out. I saw the original edit of last week's episode with the original trailer for this episode, and that trailer included Dee and Rogan having a conversation about voting her into elimination and Dee not having it. I imagine the Dee-Rogan drama was originally supposed to be center stage. Those tribunal scenes were hilarious to me. They tried really to edit her out as much as possible. She's basically an extra. She's a background filler at this point. I guess it's a good thing Dee didn't sit in the center seat at tribunal. Forgive me... I forgot to add that Nelson is a fuckin' idiot!

Wow. What... an interesting episode. 1) Dee is making it impossible for MTV. Dee is in positions where it's near impossible not to show her. She wins the challenge and ends up on the tribunal and I thought "well, it's impossible to ignore her now. We have to see the tribunal scenes. How are they gonna handle that?" WELL... they handled it. I'm sure we missed out on some good Dee drama after being back-stabbed. 2) Josh is... something. Josh has no strategy. What is he doing? He talks about what's good for his game, but he has no game. 3) Chris... bye. 4) What kind of bullshit elimination was that? Where are the hall brawls? The physical stuff? 5) I thought Kyle's political game was better this season. Kyle's a pretty likeable guy. What the fuck has he been doing this entire time? 6) Regarding Melissa... I was literally thinking earlier today that Melissa is a bit more mature this season. We haven't seen that firecracker that we've seen in her past seasons... until this episode.

My DVR listings have been updated to 90 minutes so I guess we’re back to 90 minutes.

Something that I did not notice that was extremely petty of MTV... when the Tribunal puts the names in the little window slots of the people they nominated, they don't even show Dee's name being slid into the slots. That's so minute and petty.

Unedited version of the elimination starting from Johnny’s speech and asking Rogan to throw Dee in: https://www.reddit.com/r/MtvChallenge/comments/h124kc/and_unedited_elimination_from_last_night/

I have my DVR set to record all new episodes. From what I can tell, it looks all episodes going forward is gonna be 60 minutes.

In addition to that: I found this (below). Apparently, they aired the same shortened version of the episode (that we got in the USA) in Canada, BUT they put the full originally planned episode on the MTV Canada website. I don’t think it’s there anymore though.

By the way, for every episode I've been saying Nelson is an idiot. I can't say that in this episode. For all I know, they probably cut out Nelson's moment of stupidity this episode.

Those clips provide 99% of the context of the entire episode. I assume they're gonna reedit the entire season, at least up until Dee gets eliminated, if she gets eliminated. I'm curious whether they're gonna keep the rest of the season 60 minutes or go back to 90 minutes, but feature less Dee. I'm also operating under the assumption that this episode is 60 minutes because it was a last minute change.

I don't like players like that. If someone's against you or trying to sabotage you, don't play a sympathy card... play the game. Outplay them; outmaneuver them; play dirty if necessary. Leave it to a vet like Johnny to know how to properly execute a revenge mission.

This entire episode was a "pile on Dee" episode, even though she wasn't portrayed in a positve light. This was more of a "Fuck Dee" episode than normal. By the way, thanks for the instagram page. That adds so much substance that should have been left in the episode,

I think that a plan had already been hatched to target Dee by the time they get to the bar BEFORE they nominate anybody to go into elimination. If you look at the brief bar scene where Melissa, Johnny, and Josh were talking at the table, there body language and wandering eyes says to me that they had already planned it before then. I assume a lot was cut out of the scenes at the bar because we’ve been getting a lot of bar conversation this season except for this episode.

I agree with this. Even though 90 minutes is usually filled with a lot of bullshit and filler, we missed out on a lot of context. As you mentioned, we have no idea how Josh and Johnny got on the "Fuck Dee" bandwagon. I was hoping they would leave the season intact the way they originally edited it and just leave Dee out of future seasons but WOW, they cut a lot.

I forgot about the cheating... I'm glad that happened. I was shocked when they were all DQed for cheating. He should feel nothing now because Wes is gone. It shouldn't matter anymore... but I know Josh always feels something.

I shit you not, my jaw hit the floor! I LOVED IT! Dee learning she plays a shitty game IS AWESOME! Even if Johnny doesn't win the season, this was worth keeping him around.

Wow! They worked fast to cut the bullshit out. BUT YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT TOOK SO LONG? What took so long for somebody to start playing the nasty grimy game that I love so much? WHO ELSE BUT JOHNNY to also expose Rogan????? I wished everybody played like that! Leave it to Johnny to make a move while everyone else is afraid to. I wished Dee lost though. They really gave her the shitty cut this episode without showing much of her.

Regardless of whether Dee supports BLM or not, I’ll take any reason for them to kick her off the show. I don’t care if she’s putting on a front for the cameras or for the fans, she just seems like a terrible person. I’m glad to never see her on another Challenge season again.

I don’t disagree. She’s terrible at eliminations. Most eliminations this season have been “equalizer challenge”, challenges where the playing field is equal and it doesn’t take skill or brawn to win a challenge. I don’t believe she ever went into an elimination in Free Agents and that’s why she made it to the final. Before, the “name of the game” is keeping yourself out of eliminations. She sucked at keeping herself out of eliminations. Now, you have to go in and win just to have a shot at winning the season, and she’s sucking at throwing herself in.

6) HOW COULD I FORGET ABOUT JOSH? Josh just keeps dodging bullets. He wasn’t on the board for eliminations, and he felt SO RELIEVED! Wes almost got him that time to go in against Johnny. Phew! Lol

1) I forgot to also add in any one of my previous posts for this episode that Nelson is a fuckin’ idiot. 2) Bayleigh and Chris really suck at playing this game. They need to go. They’re a waste of space. 3) I want to see Nany in a final. It’s been a long time coming. She really needs to stop playing a scared game. She plays a scared game every season. No matter what she needs to put herself into an elimination next week and win (and take Dee out). 4) In the final, I imagine that if a lot of people have red skulls, there would be a purge part of it as they did last season with that final puzzle. 5) I wish that it wasn’t Wes and Johnny in that elimination. I hoping for a small chance that it would be Chris going in because he’s useless.