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So is no one going to mention Whitney's drinking/drug problems? He was visibly intoxicated at every single group event and seemed too drunk in the Bahamas to even participate in most events. It's been a growing problem, his getting wasted at parties and the like, but this year was the first time it happened essentially every time he was on camera.

I firmly believe that it is possible to get so accustomed to a world where people threaten violence daily, that it does not scare or frighten. I also believe that context is important and nothing in what was actually happening rang any alarm bells - she was walking away, she wasn't trying to get close to Kenya or even moving in her direction, and she appeared to be somewhat in control emotionally. There are people who I absolutely would believe if they said they had a gun and were going to use it, and then there is Brit. Unless I saw the pistol in her hand I'd assume that she was barking just for the sake of barking. And recognizing that fact doesn't mean I'm defending her, but it does give context to why Bravo made different choices between the two women. Especially since she is new, and Kenya's shenanigans have a long life (who remembers when she tried to turn Kim Fields out of her chair to get a reaction???)

I thought Kandi peace'd out, not that Bravo fired her??!!!

I think the key is to look at this through a worst case scenario view: Worst case: Police get involved and are asked to investigate - the threat was not made directly to Kenya, and there was no evidence that she produced a weapon or even that she owned a weapon. It doesn't fit the guidelines for a terroristic threat in GA. Simple assault says you have to be in reasonable apprehension of an imminent attack. That isn't what was happening here. The people that were there (production and her husband) would have to cosign that she had some intent other than mere chatter and you'd have to show Kenya was afraid, which isn't demonstrable from the footage. I think it's highly unlikely any charges would be brought, or that Kenya was actually fearful based on the conversation. For Kenya's actions: She did actually share material in a public setting to third parties including the press. There was no imminent harm from Brit. Kenya could have stopped at bad surgery or video ho. Why did she have to go all the way to escort?

No comments? So, has this jumped the shark? Two things I was glad to see yesterday: Jackie immediately gathering Simone and settling her down; and Mimi holding Quad with Toya and literally talking her back from the edge It was nice seeing folks bringing people back to reality.

So I have a theory about Kenya... In the same way that someone who is a victim of sexual abuse can turn around and become an abuser, because they recognize the necessary level of vulnerability and target it, I think Kenya does the same with these women who have suffered from emotional abuse/ neglect. She seems to have a nose for what buttons to push and she seems to relish targeting women who 1) grew up poor and 2) had rough childhoods, although even stable ladies like Kandi and Kim Fields have been on the receiving end. When you look at how she targeted Marlo, Nene, Sheree, Brittany, and even Porsha, it's like she knows exactly what buttons to push to get a rise, and she does it simply as a way to assert dominance over them. The issue has been, and continues to be that at her core, she's not about that life, and poking the bear will sometimes result in you being bear food. She had been winding Britany up at their previous meeting, then showed up and immediately met her with a less than sincere greeting. Britany had been stewing for weeks since the original "where is your wedding ring" conversation. Kenya is the one who coined the phrase on HWs of "fun shade" but at its core, shade is disrespect, so there isn't really a "fun" way to do that. It is 1000% mean girl energy and it's done very intentionally, but in a way where she tries to hold herself out as above it and more cultured and refined than these louts that she's caused to spin out of control. My guess is Kenya got tossed because production had previously spoken about picking fights with her, and because the revenge porn thing is actually civilly actionable where the defense of "she threatened me, so I released her nudes" isn't going to get you a not guilty plea. The Bravo folks and production want nothing to do with that sort of exposure.

Quad still fights like she was that little girl with big dreams. Frankly, what we've seen with her and Simone is that it takes a LOT for her to work through issues and get over stuff (hence talking about Napa two years after the fact). I will give it to her that she tried last year to be graceful but like Heavenly, when pushed she reverts to her comfort zone which is "go at their neck" in a fight. It was interesting to me that Mimi called out that Quad is grieving and that may be impacting her responses, especially since she's tried to keep the story around that grief off of the show. I think she has on several occasions voiced that she does not like how Greg talks to Tea. However, Tea takes those comments as an attack on Greg and their relationship and not as a warning to her or concern about her. Tea is going to learn the hard way that a 56-year-old psychiatrist who has as little self-awareness as Greg, is probably not going to change at all.

Well, other than serving as the person to do individual one on one pull outs of information (w/ Venita, JT, and the girls), she hasn't really participated. She didn't merit an invite to Miss Pat's dinner (which doesn't surprise me), nor did she attend the trip or several of the group events. I think she may have been at Taylor's dog party, but not Sally's housewarming, or maybe it was the other way around. There isn't a natural fit for her as all the new ladies are 20-somethings who are milling about mooning over these old dudes, while her peers (Cameron, Chelsea, the other blonde who dated both Austen and Shep) are gone from the show. She and Madison should probably be their own pod of busy mom entrepreneurs, but I get the sense they don't like each other, so that's out. My concern is with her gone, Venita doesn't have a natural peer either - she's a fashionista in a group of ladies who don't care about fashion, whose her male peer, JT, just made her look dumb on tv. Leva's leaving may end up wiping all the diversity out of this crew.

My SO was married before, and that relationship produced a child. When we got married several years after that relationship ended, we were intent that the little one be included in the wedding party. My SO had primary custody, but had a decent relationship with the ex, so she was invited to both the rehearsal dinner and the wedding. She didn't stick around for the reception but came at the end of the party to grab the little one because we were leaving on our honeymoon the next morning. It's not impossible to be gracious to an ex, especially if you are comfortable and confident in your relationship and if the two exs are not at war. The problem with Tea is that she is taking her lead from Greg. If he was able to talk to Quad without anger or rancor, then she would follow suit. But she is young and insecure, and it comes across clearly in her interactions with Quad. At its core, the issue really is Greg. If he wasn't so focused on being right, on winning every argument and on trying to have people forget that the nadir of his breakup with Quad was his public acknowledgement of having taken a woman that was not his wife to a hotel room, he might be able to have a reasonable relationship, even with unreasonable Quad. But since he wants to be loud and wrong his young wife is following his lead and looking crazy on national tv doing so.

I think this has a different meaning among Black Americans, especially southerners. My maternal side is from the south, and when they call someone a southern belle, it has to do more with the way a woman carries herself and her capabilities. Southern belles are women who exude taste and refinement. They are active in their community and show up for others. They are polite but not pushovers, they know how to entertain, and they are liked by everyone. They are southern in speech and attitude, but not country. They are educated. They are seen. I don't think any Black person thinks of Scarlet, hoop skirts and mint juleps on the veranda when they think belle. As for your point around most blacks being servants or slaves, while this was true, many southern and southwestern communities of the early 1900s had thriving black economic districts with members whose wealth derived from their entrepreneurism. The women in these communities were the blueprint for the black southern belle. America's Forgotten Black Wall Streets Historical Black Communities Black Success in the South

It must be because I noticed that Toya and the two event planners were all barefoot as they were walking in. It's one of those things that I try to pay attention to in HWs land. Seems most people are NOT barefoot homes.

One thing that I noted last night on rewatch was that prior to King making a move towards Greg, there was a point where King was being held back by two guys (I think the football player and someone else) and Greg stalks over to them while they are holding him. It was before King rushed Greg because he still had his shirt on. So, under streetfighting rules, if you approach someone aggressively when your boys are holding them, you should expect a proportional response if your boys let go. Greg started something that his little ass couldn't finish. He's used to fighting with women and bulldozing folks, but he probably hasn't had to back up his slick mouth in years.

It's not weird to me. Big houses come with responsibilities - keeping track of the landscapers, the pool guy, deliveries, utilities, making sure the cameras and alarm system don't go off when the dogs go out, feeding and walking the dogs etc. (Ex-) Husbands move out, move into a 3-4 room apartment, hire a cleaning lady and get Doordash and it's like they are back in college, footloose and fancy free. F*(% that...I'd be out of the door with my overnight bag and let Mauricio have all the rest of it to deal with. No way we are breaking up AND you are getting to relive your mis-spent youth while I'm chauffeuring pre-teens, cleaning up cat vomit and arguing with the gardener about whether the grass should be cut once or twice a month. The problem is that all of these ladies are so afraid of the optics. No one wants to go from 50k sq ft to a one- or two-bedroom apartment. Think about how mercilessly HWs get clowned for divorcing and moving into a townhouse or apartment. On Bravo, that is literally a fate worse than death.

I get that you don't like Heavenly. Do you know her IRL, because saying things like she's a roach and an idiot seem to be beyond just hate watching? It seems every comment has a really negative reference to her that feels like it's something more than just not liking her behavior on the show.

It's actually not a horrible solution when the family is breaking up and there is no DV. It allows for the children to have greater access to both parents, and less disruption in their day-to-day lives. There is no back and forth, no leaving clothes or homework or equipment at one home or the other. The parents need to be mature enough to not make the situation untenable, but I've seen it work before. I know a family where the parents decided to split, and the dad ended up living in the lower level of the family home from the time the child was 5 until she turned 14. At that point she could self-transport to see him, and he moved to an apartment about 1/2 mile away.

That still totals out to north of $10k per ticket, and you have to wait for someone else who may be flying to the same location to fill a jet.

There is something truly weird about Dave and his family. How does a 30-something man rely so deeply on his older sister to make decisions for him? How does anything post-pod he's said about his dating life ("My sister said she'd have introduced me to someone if I was looking...") square with his opening comments about his lack of success because he's only dated for superficial reasons? Why is he so comfortable using his sister, dad and mom as the reason that he won't move forward? Who does that at his big age? Why are you running around polling everyone about who they slept with and when?

There was just a TikTok of T-Pain (a rapper/songwriter/producer) flying commercial from Atl to Vegas. He is on the plane, responding to folks who are clowning him about not flying private showing that the PJ for that flight is $126k dollars. My guess is that Sutton's GA to CA flight probably has a similar cost. She's wealthy, but not stupid. She's not spending $126k to fly her mama cross country when she can have her fly first class commercial for 1/20th of the cost. Remember that Garcelle and Kyle complained that the three of them flew commercial when they went to visit. $4k first class tickets will get you there just the same.

Andy tried several times to give her an out. Both on the reunion and on WWHL, he tried to say "Often HWs will cover things like plane tickets for husbands or BFs to fly to places since they are not paid for their appearance. Did you owe him money for things like that?" Stacey was adamant that she neither promised or owed any money. My guess is that TJ was being super shady and attempting to hurt Stacey directly for what he sees as a "bad edit" which is mostly about the fact that he does a really bad job pretending to be a good boyfriend. Stacey doesn't read as trying to manage her "story" the way a Kenya or Mia did, so I'm taking her at face value that she didn't try to do anything and this is all TJ being TJ.

Raya is exclusively for people in the entertainment industry. You have to have some kind of bona fides to be granted membership. My guess is she qualifies because she is a country's pageant winner. It's not a sugar daddy site (although that may be going on there) and the average 20-something isn't getting access to Raya. And yes, there are 20-year-old guys on Raya as well.

I wonder if Whitney was scouting on Raya for this storyline. It's a little strange that he would reach out to this girl, then just randomly Shep would contact the same girl, especially when neither of them has ever shown that Sienna is their "type".

In his defense, this was 2024 when everybody had eggs 😝😒😪

I thought he met her on Raya.

My dad would have said she was "striking" - there is something that draws your eyes to her and keeps your attention, but it isn't that she's universally "pretty" (whatever that means).

I don't know if it can ever go back. The first few seasons were all about the "old families" of Charleston. Craig was positioned as the college transplant who never moved back, and Cameron and the mohawk girl were there to provide the "new Charleston vs. old Charleston" tensions. None of those things exist anymore. They don't want to touch the old families with a ten-foot pole, not since Thomas' dad came on and said he won't carry a $5 bill in his wallet since it has a picture of Abraham Lincoln on it. And most of the cast are now like Craig, decidedly middle-class folks who want to be famous and are trying to figure out how to monetize this platform. Hell, Bravo has actually edited some of the earlier seasons to cut out some pretty tone-deaf comments on how all those "old families" came to be and what exactly they got their wealth from.