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If building from the ground up is using everyone's help and benefits as the foundation then I guess you have that going for you. ? I will NEVER be able to eat a quesadilla without hearing Cates Michigan accent saying, "chicken and cheese quesadilla," in my head.

I just Realized that adding the 5th girl made for extremely less time for each girls story and Kailyn is being so closed off. How is MTV justifying their salary? That's a lot of money they're receiving...and for what? So we can watch Leah's daughter wonder where her toothbrush is and for Kailyn to say she's not talking about anything and turn off the lights and go to bed. Since they're alreading filming the next season, there's no hope in a cancellation but viewers are going to get bored of watching mundane episodes aside from Jenelles crazy time. She's the only one bringing the drama as not too many people care about Briana just yet. I see salaries being chopped soon to accommodate the extra cast member/employee and the less footage the girls are providing.

Good girl. ? I love graphs, pie charts and statistics. I'm a data nerd. I just wish it wasn't so hard to get assistance when needed. The government makes people jump through fire meanwhile people like Jenelle, Leah, Kailyn, Amber and Matt live uppa class lifestyles.

Where did you read this? From what I read caucasians take 38% while blacks use 39%. I'm not trying to argue about the issue just curious about the actual statistics.

I will NEVER understand why people are paying thousands of dollars to achieve this look. If this is her natural booty I don't want to body shame her but I definitely wouldn't go to a doctor with her photo and ask for a replica, nor would anyone be expected to bring in a photo of my ass (although now that I do CrossFit I'm finally losing the "mom butt" so maybe it will be replica worthy, soon). As big as Kailyn looks in her Ursala photo she's going to be PISSED one week postpartum when she sees what her body looks like once the cute baby bump is gone. Homegirl has gained too much weight for this pregnancy (I don't know exactly what she's gained but it looks more than the recommended amount for a woman her height). As she was finally getting a decent shape when she was working out a lot with Javi pre-doctor Miami. I said it before she got pregnant and I'll say it again, these implants may look nice when you get them on a body that's in a relatively decent shape but pile on some extra weight and it's not going to look good at all. Same goes for Farrah when she gets a lot older and her metabolism slows down (I never see her workout and she's always eating but never gains weight - then again she is ALWAYS moving and doing something) her body is going to look odd wrapped around all that fake stuff. Implants really help make weight gain more prominent.

Interesting part two. How dare that chic, Stephanie? to blame Bri for her hubby cheating after only hearing Matts side. Clearly a woman is going to be texting her husband a thousand times if he's been spotted with another woman. I'm not putting the blame on the other woman like many people like to do as it's Matt's fault for letting someone come inside his marriage (no pun intended that was on accident and I left it there) but to go ahead and bring a man that you know is married back to your home is just trifling. And who in their right mind would feel safe bringing a man they JUST met into their home? He could have been a serial killer. "I brought him back to my place and he kissed me even though I felt uncomfortable." Why didn't you stop him if you're uncomfortable? And why bring him home if you just wanted to talk? Terror is getting karma. Elena is fed up with Terror and not holding back punches. Terror is missing the point that Elena made. Elena was basically saying, "even if we make up I still don't want to be friends with you because of the way you treat OTHER people". It's at the point where she doesn't care how Terror treats her she just doesn't like how she is as a person. I certainly don't want to be friends with someone in their 30s that thinks it's okay to tell people about someone else's body odor (I know tonya started it but terror passed the news on to everyone) or that posts embarrassing videos to their social media that has an impressive following. Or someone that throws a glass at someone's head and doesn't expect to be punished for it and when charges get dropped cry the story "you tried to take me from my family" spiel in every fight. Or uses a minor breast cancer diagnosis as a reason to get out of owning up to problems she's caused. Many women are truly suffering with breast cancer and she used her doctors minor findings as a reason to get sympathy from people and that makes me sad. Elena has zero fucks to give whether Terror is executive producer or not. Get your alligator tears out of my face. I loved the look of joy on Christy's face when everyone was calling Terror out on her BS. Christy deserves that after the rough couple of seasons she's had. I did side with Terror a little about the DWTS. Why is it okay for a father to fulfill all of his dreams when babies come into the picture and be known as a wonderful provider but if a mother does it she's neglecting her children? Her kids were with their father, Joe, and attentive nannies, no difference than working mothers taking kids to daycare or men leaving their kids with the mom. Joe wasn't working at the time so he was a stay at home dad while Terror was out making some very good money to support her family. Elena WAS just jealous and using the neglecting babies as an excuse. Elena was upset that Terror was getting these roles and got her SnapBack quick. I love you Elena, you're beautiful and you put people in their place and I hate defending Terror, but you had the case of the green eyed monster on that one aspect. Other than that, team Elena. I still think the only non-fake one is Jasmine. I'd totally love to have her as a friend. She really does genuinely care for the people she keeps in her company and I truly respect her. Tonya is annoying as always. Her dramatic pauses after each question about the wedding was so annoying and fake. Why go ring shopping and bring up marriage over and over again to just be so blasé about it at the reunion? To spark interest for the next season filled with "are they going to get married or aren't they?" Because I don't care. Kerwin, you can save it with the "I'm southern" crap about cooking for your lady. If you don't work and have nothing to bring to the table (still confused on how you bought that engagement ring (probably tonya paid)) you can at least cook the meals. None of this "men don't belong in the kitchen" BS from the 1950s. If Tonya is bringing home the bacon, you are capable of throwing it on the frying pan to make some BLTs. ETA: I really didn't mean to type up a novel...I just realized how much I typed. And I'm still typing...?

You know you fucked up when you have to search for "likes" on social media to make sure your baby daddy isn't "liking" so and so's bikini closeup. Thankfully my husband and I never got into social media. I have social media accounts for my "brand" lol. It's not really a brand but a hobby of mine that some would think was a "brand." Kids these days (I'm 35) take for granted the digital era. When I was in middle school and high school I'd have to wait AN ENTIRE YEAR for the school class photos or yearbooks to come out to get a picture of my school crush, so I could draw hearts around his face and stare at it while listening to love songs. Or when I had to ask my friends if I could take their picture knowing my crush was standing 10 feet behind them in order to get his picture in the shot, to then run to the nearest cvs or Walgreens and get 24 hour photo delevoping for my throw away camera. Ah yes, the good 'ole days. Nobody appreciates the effort we had to make to get a picture yet alone take a gazillion selfies to get insta likes. No! We had to wait for the yearbook to come around and awkwardly ask people to acknowledge our existence with a generic "it's been fun hope you have a nice summer and see you next year" with terrible grammar on the pages of a yearbook. WOW! I went down on memory lane. What were we talking about, again? ?

Man, I miss the days where the most drama came from Puck eating peanut butter out of the jar with his double dipping finger with Pedro (R.I.P) having a panic attack over it. Now it's turned into something I can't snark and watch with my family around me. There always has to be the mandatory "running through the house naked" scenes and threesomes in the shower. I'm no prude but if I want to watch that stuff I'd google "naughty stuff to watch with hubby with no relatives around me . com". I would also watch because they would play indie type of music, stuff you don't hear on mainstream radio.

I may be reading too much into this but I'm wondering if Kails lack of manners is from growing up never having nice stuff/home and always feeling like a freeloader/mooch at other people's homes that now she finally has her OWN Pinterest place she can treat people the same way she felt she was treated. I will try and explain. Growing up I had a friend (he really is a friend and not myself, and I'm still friends with him 20 years later lol) that didn't have a good home life as his mom was out of the picture and he only had his low excuse for a father as his means for shelter. His father would rather spend rent money at the bar room than provide a stable environment, so he and his father had to couch surf a lot and sometimes people didn't have a couch to spare so they slept on the back porch of these homes. The owners of the home ALWAYS treated my friend as dirt beneath their feet because they were "lower than low" and deserved no respect and should feel "grateful" for a roof over their head even if it's technically outside on a porch or on a ripped up old sofa couch. Everytime he'd visit these homes he was never treated as a guest. They would open the door after he and his father knocked and just give them a look of disgust and say "couch is there I hope you have your own pillow and shit!" After swinging the door open and walking away with no real greeting. My friend always felt like a burden and that everyone was BETTER than him and he deserved no "normal respect" that a person would get in a different situation. My friend made a promise to himself to NEVER be like his alcoholic father that would allow his child to couch hop (if lucky enough to get a couch) so he went to college then earned his masters degree. Flash forward to present time and he's successful and hangs around with a TON of people that are LESS successful than he is just so that he can have the feeling of power and feeling better like the couch owners did to HIM. I don't think he does it on purpose but subconsciously he does and I've noticed it because I've known him so long and understand his background. If I were to confront him about his behavior he would deny ever being so rude because he wouldn't want to treat people the way he was treated but doesn't realize he DOES do it due to a seeded rage for how he was treated at an age where he had no CONTROL over the situation. The 80's and early 90's wasn't that strict on CPS and helping kids in awful living situations unless it was reported (at least not where we grew up) so it went unnoticed by the schools, etc. I'm in no way shape or form defending Kails behavior but I can understand why. She grew up with an alcoholic mother that didn't provide stable shelter and we were introduced to Kail "mooching" off of Jo's family. The Riveras weren't rude to Kailyn whatsoever but Kail was STILL living under someone else's roof under good faith and had to be a good girl to stay in that home (not cheat on Jo). Now that Kail has her Pinterest place and friends that don't have as much as she does (including Javi) and finally has more money than JO, she feels the need to make them feel less than her or not deserving of her respectful welcome to her home as you should be THANKFUL she's allowing you entrance into her gorgeous Pinterest palace *gag*. After all of this typing I may only be 40% accurate but that's what I gather after comparing my friends experience with the hulks.

UGH, based on Kailyn's twitter comments, it's confirmed that there will be another season after this one. One day after the first episode aired and they're already working on the next one. ? Is it so wrong that I desperately want this show canceled so that I can see Kailyn work a real 9-5 job and discover what a hectic work schedule with kids looks like? Or to see Briana discover she got knocked up on purpose to get Rich on this show to only have the show cancelled BEFORE she would receive the big bucks?? Because as of right now, I think I read she got just 20k for this season. MTV, please cut their salary or replace them so that we can see real women struggling to raise kids because hardly any teen mom makes 6 figures. My mother got pregnant at 16 (hence the reason I watch this show) and worked her way up to a Manager position at Burger King and to her, that was a proud moment, and the struggle was REAL when I grew up before my dad became a real estate agent (she is still with the hubby she got pregnant at 16 with...high school sweethearts do sometimes last lol...36 years). I think rotating the cast may be a real solution but MTV probably figures we won't be as attached to the roster of teen moms and won't watch. Because the current cast is familiar to us so we want to continue knowing more about their lives now. If MTV cuts their salaries I doubt any of them, except Chelsea, would quit the show and may ACT like they will quit. MTV will call their bluff. MTV could get away with bringing their salaries back down, maybe not 20k down, but maybe 75k for a part A and B season? They have nothing else going for them (except Chelsea) that would pay them that much. I highly doubt Kailyn will get her own show and be motivated to use her degree for something that involves work. I can totally see the show being cancelled with the girls maaaaaybe eeking out a few spots on some reality game show, etc., like road rules, Marriage bootcamp, then quickly being forgotten in z-list land. Holy crap, I went on a ramble, didn't I??? ?

Leah - Not too much to snark on as she's a little better than previous seasons so I'm going to watch another episode before I give up on her even though I know she already dropped out of college. The girls were on time for school, she made a point to not let the girls get full on snacks before dinner and she got their teeth brushed - she wasn't nodding off while driving lol. It's pretty sad that I feel like these are all improvements. Jenelle - She's telling the producer nobody cared when she was crying yet ignored Kaiser when he was crying...hmmm ? I'm not going to care about YOU crying if you're not going to give a damn about that sweet boy crying. I feel that both David and Jenelle are too rough with Kaiser. The way Jenelle rigorously jammed Kaiser into his highchair and how David slid him across the floor broke my heart. David was slacking with his friends while drinking and could've accomplished a lot more but yikes, was Jenelle acting hormonal...pregnancy doesn't mean you have to sit on the couch and nag your family. I guess her relationship isn't going as good as she acted like it was in last season. Just wait until the 2 am feedings when endtable shows up, if they're acting this crabby before the baby. #freekaiser #endtablefindbarb Kailyn - I'm so sick of her not wanting to talk about ANYTHING but how busy she is with school but will cash her MTV check all day. Mackenzie (TM3) will take your spot in a second if you don't cooperate. I felt so bad for Javi, he really doesn't want to be deployed again. I nearly teared up when Lincoln said he was his best friend. Poor Isaac. Jo looks totally OVER Kailyn's BS about her "hectic schedule" and probably goes home and takes a shot for each time he heard school out Kails mouth. Chelsea - She looks like a happy preggo lady, but she's going to regret smiling while eating that cupcake...I did the same while pregnant with my third and I wasn't smiling after the baby was born when I saw the damage I've done lol. She's definitely happy eating for two. Not body shaming, I just know how proud she was when she was getting back into shape and I don't want her to go through what I did after my baby was born. Postpartum depression was AWFUL combined with 40 lb weight gain. Thanks to the keto diet and CrossFit I'm finally back to looking the way I did in College. Watson is beautiful. Bless his heart. Beautiful family of five (including Pete). Scenes to the next episode shows the first sign of trouble in paradise when Cole bear says he hasn't got any sleep and Chelsea fires back "you've been getting sleep!" Lol. My husband and I fought the MOST after each baby was born. Baby bootcamp we called those dark days. It was both our most happiest time (due to new baby) and our worst (due to NO SLEEP). Brianna is going to all of the places I've been to this summer (we live in the same city), as I took my kids to legoland and I went to the same burger joint and Indian restaurant...super weird, too bad it wasn't the day they were filming...I would've video bombed wearing a PreviouslyTv shirt. ??? I feel bad for Brianna getting the news that Lu already cheated on her but can't say I'm shocked. What do you expect when you get knocked up from a club hookup? Romance and a standup guy??? Nooooooope. I see them trying to make it work for a year to two at the most then calling it quits. Briana better thank her lucky stars MTV came back to fill her bank account back up to prepare her for Lu leaving her. I don't like her sister, too much of "I'm so badass I can take on the world" attitude like Amber (TMOG). I don't want to hear that crap. The strongest people never have to shout to the rooftops how strong they are - they just are.

I'm in the early stages of my child being diagnosed with high functioning autism and your post just made my day! She's 28 months.

You know, Matt probably went to those events thinking that the pros would be excited to play against a "celebrity" that is on a show catering to 12 million, bazillion viewers. He most likely sat there with his chips singing "I'm betttttaaaaah than you, I'm on a successful tv show, neanah neanah," - Hey sleaze! Pay attention do you call??? "Oopsie ..yeah, I call, in fact, I'm allllllll in...I'll just ask Ambah to wire me more money from her bed." I need a life. I'm a Bostonian and that shit was haaahd to write in the Boston accent. ?

It was a snooze fest. She did confirm that she and Matt are no longer living with each other and that he currently lives in Las Vegas. She said they haven't lived together since before marriage bootcamp and didn't reconcile after. She said she hopes Matt pays her back the money he took but if he doesn't she said she'll be JUST FINE. She replied to a caller by responding that love is blind and that it took her a little while to see the light. She confirmed that Matt 'only' had 5 kids and if there are more she doesn't know about then it's because "I got to a point where I stopped caring." Her and Gary's relationship are doing just great! She likes Kailyn. That's pretty much it. I'm sorry if I made grammatical errors I just wanted to type this up real quick to save any of you the wasted time. I listened to it while I was, eh hem, dealing with the unknowingly expired tuna salad. ? ?Time well spent.

He wanted the infant child to be AT the delivery? I must've missed that! If that's the case, hell no! I thought he wanted the baby to VISIT with the new baby. Then I take back what I said about the baby being there, when I delivered my three babies I only wanted my husband with me and I had my mother bring the other two siblings to the hospital two days later after I've healed a bit. I think the boyfriend knows Mia gets jealous and does that crap on purpose. His other baby is only a few months old and the baby momma doesn't need to be there during Mia's special moment - her lime light not to be shared. Manly should step up and be a man and bond with the new baby alone. A couple days isn't going to kill him to spare with the newest baby.

I finally watched Teen Mum (I have no life, apparently). Chloe - I can't believe you forgave your FIANCÉ of cheating, not only on you, but with your BEST FRIEND, after just 24-hours??! Then here's the kicker, you proceeded to surprise HIM with a makeup dinner?!!!?!?!?!?! Don't let me forget to remind anyone that he proposed to her with some girls 'smell' on his hands while he held your engagement ring since he had sex with her friend right BEFORE getting down on one knee. You're such a pretty girl, and surprisingly very positive while living in a caravan - why out up with this crap?? Naomi - BEAUTIFUL GIRL!!!!! I love her hair and face, but feel so bad that a sad dude is making her look pathetic. Rafael is using both women and they're sitting there looking pathetic fighting for him (not physically or verbally, just emotionally). Girl, you're beautiful and have a career already mapped out ...you're going places, find a man that knows who he wants to rest his head next to. Mia - I understand where she was slightly coming from, she loves her boyfriends baby but wanted the attention to be solely on welcoming the new baby into the world. But then the other side of me thinks it was based on jealousy. She has a lot of growing up to do. People have stepchildren all of the time and in order to be with the parents you need to welcome them into your world 100% without picking and choosing when they can be around. His baby did nothing wrong, it's there to meet the new member. Mia also has a pretty face. ? I forgot the name of the chic that went on a holiday to Spain with her boyfriend. I understand that your boyfriend gets to go out whenever he wants back home (which I don't see as fair, just because he works doesn't mean he can do what he wants whenever....being a fulltime mother is a job and she deserves time for herself, too) and you want to have fun on your trip. However, in the real world, when you take a holiday (vacation for us USA people) with your boyfriend/husband you spend the trip with him and not run off with other friends. I think I covered everyone, dang, even on a show like teen mum, the teens sound smarter than the smart people in the states. Something about the English accent that reaks of intelligence. ??

Anyone have any idea on the pay scale for each girl? Like, I wonder if Farrah's lawyer or manager negotiated a 400k per season deal and Amber is getting 300k, while Maci, the boring one, gets 'only' 225k. And if there is a pay difference did either one of the girls sign a contract to NOT share their salary with each other. I hope I made sense. ETA: I know they had similar salaries in the earlier season, but since OG came along I'm assuming it's been changed - plus, i'm sure Farrah demanded more than the other girls since she was rumored to be brought in to save a sinking show.

Is it being pulled off the shelves everywhere I.e., Amazon, Barnes and noble and books a million?

Christy was ENJOYING having everyone yelling at Terror for a change. Usually it's Christy being ganged up on. Karma Terror, karma. You didn't have to upload Christy's video to your large following on social media because it caused you great pain and sadness, your large Akon booty did it to humiliate Christy for revenge you spiteful b'yatch. Matt is really good at getting Briana to hate her friends. Lisa tells Briana what's going on and it's LISA that she's mad at? She confronts Matt and Matt was able to get Briana angry at Lisa for going to Elena and Jasmine first? He's extraordinary at deflecting. Way to go Matt!!! I love Elena and how she was on fire but I didn't like her yelling at Jasmine. I just don't think Jasmine needs to be told who she can be friends with and I think Elena was a little jealous at how Jasmine picks new favorite friends each week, even more so because she made Jasmine her babies godmother. Autumn looked adorable with her hair like that. She's turning into a beautiful young woman, Christy did a fine job raising her, she won't be the type to let a man walk all over her erm Briana. Joe, you obnoxious drunk/druggie, you need to leave funny alone because it doesn't work for you - the bobble head doll? Really?? Take several seats down. Elena must be pissed that all the ladies had instant SnapBack after having babies, I thought she'd be the one to lose the weight super fast because she's really into her appearance. Let me say, I'm not body shaming her at all and she can take as long as she wants to lose weight (especially after twins) as she looks beautiful...I'm just pointing out the fact she's always getting surgery, body enhances etc., and it's Terror, Briana, and Jasmine that walked out of the delivery room looking pre-pregnancy. Terror had DWTS rehearsals to contribute to her SnapBack, though.

It is lisa. I'm wondering if some of the viewers are mixing this Matt with the Matt on Teen Mom OG who was sexting a Tiffany. LOL.

I totally agree. I'm over the self-proclaimed bad ass chic this girl is toting. Okay, yes, she did beat up a man that was built like a linebacker and proceeded to knock him down a couple stairs and she went to prison but she nearly misses on every swing, she was just lucky Gary was large enough to give her extra real estate to punch at. I'm sure Shaun doesn't want her telling people he can snap and shoot someone for calling him a F@$&$T. Any job he aims for is going to want someone that has self-control. I can't stand how everyone is so afraid of Amber. Maci, Catelynn and Nessa are too afraid to say anything to upset bad ass Ambah. Matt just laughs at her. I don't like Matt but he sees through her bad ass persona. He'll be like "Bitch, you sleep in bed all day and hardly exert any energy except putting on makeup to Snapchat how are you going to beat someone's ass?" Amber has ZERO muscle tone and I'm not trying to body shame her but don't you have to have a bit of agility to be tough?

The 'about us' page said that they speak internationally about their adoption. However, on "Ask the Moms" Cate said she hasn't left the Country. ? Their about page shouldn't be the first thing on the landing page. The visitors shouldn't have to go LOOKING for the clothing. I can't stand reading wall text. Space that shit up!! The logo is way too big above the fold and nobody should have to scroll all the way down to see what the website is about. The clothing is too expensive for what it is and AGAIN with the dang pocket shirts!!! I'm being haunted by them...unless Maci snuck in some of her clothing on their site as a "scratch my back I'll scratch yours," which leaves Terra Reign Drops no designs of their own aside from a couple fringe designs. I give their site 6 months (with hardly any sales) before it gets yanked due to embarrassment by Tyler. Plus, the almighty Google will not like the bounce rate their site will have. Then again, it's only "fans" looking for their website.

I'm really hoping TM2 gets cancelled BEFORE Brianna gets the chance to get that type of salary the other girls receive. She planned that knock up to get on the show to become rich and I want it to backfire leaving her with an 18 year reminder of her dumbass decisions. I just hope she won't place any resentment towards the new baby. I think I read somewhere that she's only getting 20k? (Correct me if I'm wrong) which is LESS than what she brought home working at chipotle - not worth getting pregnant with a cheating dude from the club that you've known for thirty days. SMH.

Yes! I agree. If I was footing the bill for a beautiful vacation to key west to TRY and start over with my mothers fiance I'd be fuming if he gave me his back the entire time and acted bothered anytime I asked him a simple question "where is the guacamole cover?" Dr. Quack can take several seats down. On the other hand, we don't know if Farrah paid for the trip or MTV. It still doesn't give him the right to go on a family trip and isolate himself from the group he came with. Farrah was actually making an effort to get to know him and enjoy a family trip with him before the wedding in Bora Bora - you know the wedding location paid to the order of Farrah...the same girl the Doctor Quack wants respect from! I'm not trying to defend Farrah 100% but I can't help but get the heeby jeebys listening to that quacks voice - it irks me out and I'm sure Farrah feels the same way, especially after he tried to hold her body hostage their first meeting together and reached out to Farrah before asking Debra out. ?

I feel emotional looking at this. I've read about Maci drinking while pregnant, albeit I was angry, but seeing the footage was a trigger and makes me terribly sad. She was CLEARLY back to pre pregnancy weight at Cate and Tyler's wedding and any female should would take a pregnancy test if their stomach was going BACK to looking pregnant AFTER already having their SnapBack. Sure, Jan!!! I had a glass of wine when I was at 37 weeks pregnant but my doctor said I was super stressed and the only glass would help. But Maci was drinking casually, and OFTEN!!! ??? My heart breaks for kids being born with withdrawals because their mommy didn't put their child's needs first.