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Since I don't know where you live, I don't know if that is a bad number or not. I do know that my sister makes twice that and can't seem to support herself, yet my husband makes $35000 and supports both of us and our three kids- and we live less than ten miles from each other. So a lot of it is lifestyle choices and such. I wish you the best of luck with the Claims position, and wisdom in deciding whether to move with your family or get your own place. Can't be an easy decision!

I saw in the description for next week's episode that Deeks and Kensi will discuss their relationship. That ought to be interesting.

I was surprised that Granger wanted Kensi to jump back in. I'm glad they didn't draw out Hetty's uncertainty about it. Looking forward to next week when Kensi and Deeks are back together as partners. Nell was awesome in the field, but I love how she was so conflicted about it because it hurt Kensi.

"Stick to the lasagna, lady"

Yes. In season one, their "true love" started to break the Dark One curse.

Yeah, that was the impression I had, too. She had stitches on her forhead. I was actually impressed with how she managed to look like she was about to keel over in pain just standing there. The way she slumped her shoulders and moved stiffly, it was superb acting.

I think he's Walsh, but that is based on absolutely nothing but the voices in my head. :-)

Her neck wasn't cut. They knocked her out and staged the death photos in an effort to keep from being followed.

True. Even my husband said while passing through the roonm while I was watching Jane and Maura together "I can see why people right fanfiction about those two."

My best friend? No. But my sister? Yes. If I had a best friend as close as a sister... That is the relationship between these women.

That's a good point. She does like keeping him at a distance. And I understand about the relationship being all on Casey's terms. But I do'nt think that necessarily makes him selfish, at least not to the point of being a jackass. True, I'm concerned that if she doesn't just cut ties, it will continue like it's always been- him showing up and messing with her whenever he feels like it, and jerking her heart around in the process. But then again, maybe Casey is perfect for her since she doesn't want to/is unable to commit to a full time relationship. She seems to like the short periods of intense relations followed by him disappearing and giving her space. Although Maura said she just felt that way because she was scared of committment. I think she does want to keep Casey in her life, just not on his terms. Maybe having a baby will help keep him in her life in short bursts when he's not overseas. It seems logical to me that she'd prefer to just move on without him, but that didn't work the last time he tried to get her to move on. She really does love him. I'm curious to see where the new showrunner will take the story, and I really and truly hope it doesn't just get swept under the rug.

I kind of hope that Emma being the "Savior" this time around means that she has to use her magic and embrace who she is instead of trying to run from it.

I was thinking the same thing. It seemed so weird for her to be able to undo the powerful magic that joined Neal and Rumple like it was easy, when in 3A she could barely get a spark lit. I was trying to figure out what had changed, and I think it was that year combined with ten years of happy memories with Henry. I'd like to see her magic more fully utilized. And explained, but perhaps that is asking too much of this show.

Okay, so I know it isn't about Charming's hair, but that picture made me remember the good ol' days when Snow's Fairytale wig didn't look like a rat's nest...

I kind of yelled at the TV that it wasn't fair- everyone Emma has ever loved romantically has either died in her arms or turned out to be a villain. I can see why she is so reluctant to let Hook in!

So I started a new thread (thanks for the how to!) to continue the discussion about Jane and Casey. I copied the posts from this thread over, making my new post absurdly long, but if you skip ahead to the last two paragraphs that's where you'll find my new comments.

I'm moving the discussion that I accidentally started on the Small Talk thread over here. Here are the posts that are over there... I know people want more Maura and Jane, less men in their lives, but not me. Personally, I really like the Casey/Jane storyline, and I know that a lot of fans disagree, but I can relate to the angst. To love someone doesn't necessarily mean its all sunshine and roses. To love your job, to have your job define you, and to realize that one of you has to give that up to be together? It sucks, but it happens. And then throw in a pregnancy? Yeah. I can relate to Jane's choice. In a way, I envy it. I gave up my career to be with my husband when I found out I was pregnant, and there are definitely days when I wish I could have made a different choice. I love him. I love my daughter. But I loved my job, too. And if I had had a friend like Maura at my job? There's a darn good chance I'd be a single mother right now. And there would be days I regretted the choice. Either way, it's a losing situation. I like seeing that on TV, and I hope they don't gloss over it by writing Casey out and making Jane forget about him. IndependentMind Yest. @ 12:34 pm My issue with Jane/Casey relationship never had anything to do because I want Maura and Jane together. I am not a shipper of a romantic relationship between them. Although i can understand why a lot of people do. But.I am shipper of their friendship. My issue with Jane/Casey relationship is that he is selfish. Their relationship has always been about him. He decides when their relationship starts and ends. When they first broke up its because he had to go back on duty and told Jane to move ob. Then he comes back and didn't tell her. Then he gives this excuse that if he cant feel her due to his injury he can't be with her. Never mind that didn't matter to her. He comes because he can after all have sex with her. Then he pretty much gave Jane an ultimatum. Its not a proposal to me. Basically, marry me so I can retire or I have no be the General. Really? So Jane decides she will marry him. And alas, he tells her military is his life and he can't see himself doing anything else. So he tells her "He is waiting for her." He expects her to move across the world. leave her job, her family, her team and her best friend. Why because his job is more important than her? I'm sure Casey is a great guy but he is all about himself. I happen to love Jane and I just hate how she has been written in the past three seasons and it has to do for some reason when there is a man in her life. I don't know why Janet Tamaro writes Maura and Jane this way. These women value themselves very highly but when there is a man they just devalue themselves. For Maura there was Ian. Then Dennis the serial killer. Dennis leaves and doesn't contact her. The moment he shows up she goes out with him. But out of the two, Jane was written the worse. They even put in Martinez whom I detest. And she was tempted to cheat with him. I have no respect for a man who pursues a woman he knows is n a committed relationship. Edited by IndependentMind, Yest. @ 1:40 pm. Kristen Yest. @ 1:46 pm My main issue with Jane and Casey is that the relationship is so unearned. He's not around most of the time, he's this guy from her past so that's supposed to make up for the lack of building his character? We're not given a chance to get to know him or them as a couple except for a few episodes here and there because he's very conveniently in the army. I don't know how they expect us to buy that he's the love of her life when she has more chemistry with even Korsak than she does with her supposed great love. That being said my other problem with Jane and Casey is that what I like about this show (and yes, I think Jane and Maura would be hot together, but I know that's not a thing and never will be a thing) is that it's about two smart, strong women who are exceptional in their fields, and who are not only NOT defined by their romantic relationships with men or seemingly desperate search for a man, and who also aren't in competition with each other for men. It's kinda rare, even in this day and age, to have female BFFs who aren't grossly catty with each other. Angie and Sasha have great friend chemistry, it shows, and they play on it quite well. It's one of the good points of the show. Let's face it, it's not a brilliant crime drama. We're not here for the puzzle, we're here for the interpersonal stuff. Okay, I'm also here to gawk at Sasha Alexander, but that's another issue. How can someone be so elegant and sophisticated and also adorkable? HOW? IndependentMind Yest. @ 2:09 pm I agree with you Kristen. I find myself scratching my head whenever Casey shows up and Jane turns into another person. In my opinion, not only is he selfish but he is a jerk as well. As was Dean, Grant and Martinez. I agree, Casey has been selfish. BUT, he was thinking like a real, flawed, human. Not a television super person. And I like seeing that on TV. I like that people don't necessarily think logically about whether they should or shouldn't love someone. I guess maybe it hits extra close to home for me, but I get it. I understand Casey's side of the story. I can see how he thought leaving was best for Jane. But maybe it's just me. That said, I also understand why it won't work. Because if the show tries to make it work, it would be a disservice to both of the characters. They are both too defined by what they do for them to ever compromise sufficiently for them to both be happy. Even so, it sucks, because they can't be happy apart, either. At least for now. Perhaps they will move on, but a possible baby makes that so much harder to do.

Good Lord, that made me want to crawl into my TV and hug Kensi at the end when she said "It was really bad." I don't normally get emotionally invested in this show, but I nearly cried. I'm so glad she let Deeks hold her! And that she admitted the truth instead of trying to pretend she was fine.

Hello, I migrated here from TWOP as well, but I never liked the Castle thread at TWOP because it was so busy and unorganized. I really like the changes here!

I know people want more Maura and Jane, less men in their lives, but not me. Personally, I really like the Casey/Jane storyline, and I know that a lot of fans disagree, but I can relate to the angst. To love someone doesn't necessarily mean its all sunshine and roses. To love your job, to have your job define you, and to realize that one of you has to give that up to be together? It sucks, but it happens. And then throw in a pregnancy? Yeah. I can relate to Jane's choice. In a way, I envy it. I gave up my career to be with my husband when I found out I was pregnant, and there are definitely days when I wish I could have made a different choice. I love him. I love my daughter. But I loved my job, too. And if I had had a friend like Maura at my job? There's a darn good chance I'd be a single mother right now. And there would be days I regretted the choice. Either way, it's a losing situation. I like seeing that on TV, and I hope they don't gloss over it by writing Casey out and making Jane forget about him.

Thanks. :-)

So I'm new to actually posting on forums, and this is probably totally the wrong location to do this, but I've been looking for a Rizzoli and Isles discussion forum because ever since I watched the season finale a few days ago, I wanted to ask what other people thought as well as posing a response to a specific line that Maura said to Jane. I don't know how to start a new post for that episode, and I don't know how to warn about spoilers, so I don't want to ask my question without doing it properly. Could someone help me?

Hi everyone! I never actually posted anything at TWoP because my computer was incredibly cranky about letting me, but I read almost every post in the Once forum. I'm super sad to see TWoP go, especially the recaps, but I'm hoping this new forum will provide the same discussion, speculation, and of course, snark. :-)