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Or this art :) see, it isn't hard imagine Felicity as BC

That night when Arrow and some BIG game were at the same time, and he said something about ratings and shippers. And from then on, it was all bad PR move by his side. But from the start of season 5, there was bad blood from some writers&MG and fans online. Just my perception.

I already speculate that scenario @Mellowyellow, especially after MG's meltdown on Twitter, he in some way su-created Olicity, and now he is backpedaling, why? Maybe because he has to. Just my theory...

With Billy, at least Felicity had someone, but now with him dead, who will be in her corner? All regulars seems busy right now. Maybe finally some scenes with Rory? I just want for Felicity to talk with someone, for us as viewer to hear her POV.

Fandom: It COULD be much worse.... Arrow writers: Challenge accepted! :D

Well, it sound silly and mega stupid, so I am afraid with reason, because IT IS ARROW WRITERS (I am legitimately traumatized). But IT IS stupid, and they wouldn't go there, right, RIGHT?

THIS! is so much better choice, imagine light rain, darkness, and his words.... I would feel bad for him in that scene. Instead we got ... that scene. Yeah... big fail.

Yeah, that Felicity's "secret" is bugging me. I have one idea, but I do not wanna go there, even here by writing it, because is sound silly, but enough silly for EPs to go there. I will keep it for myself until I get more "proof". I would love for Roy to come back, maybe for some Thea storyline.

This all make me sad for Felicity and angry on the writers for making me dislike the main character. There is no win in this situation :(

I want to see more hacking by Felicity, and by that I don't mean just typing, but also some smart moves to come to certain information, like social hacking. Also bring back Bitch with WIFI !

It would be more powerful meaningful scene if O and F were been alone in the moment of confession, but the writers chose different approach and that tells me: this killing Billy is all about Oliver and not Felicity or future Olicity (if there is any). RE: scene on the couch, viewers definitely were alluded to sex. The writers should have ended scene with somehow Oliver stooping Susan for further, or something, if they were so adamant for Oliver to not have sex in that moment. SO from my perspective they had sex. And that alone fact is ICK factor for me, because he just killed a man. And that's why I can not see Felicity with Oliver anymore.

Catching up spoilers spec: "... around episode 15 or so ... Felicity’s character was going to parallel Oliver's in that she will have a secret that she will be keeping and other people will know about it. Oliver will be kept out of the loop… " Throw in this more tidbits: it's HER legacy, something NOT relate to Oliver and her parents, and something very "unique" to her. What could possible be THAT secret?? Any ideas? Beside DarkBOP My mind going to crazy places right now, and I like it. It means I am interested in this spec (positive me) BUT also means I will probably be disappointed by final product (negative me).

Funny thing is, season 4A was actually universally loved, by critics, by viewers, damn - even by non-fans of Olicity pairing, they finally started to accepting it. But fragile peace have gone down the moment they killed LL. I almost, almost regret them for killing her, but then again, KC was really unwatchable in this role. God, I can't wait for that Book to tell-all BTS gold, because is sure there is some!

We can only speculate what is the game plan for BC, at the end, it won't mattered. I think The decision is already made. I am more interested in Felicity Smoak action and rumored Dark Circle of Bad Women, and I really hope there is more of her in other half back, because she is pure reason why I barely hanging on the show right now.

Party line...well that explains almost everything in season 5: retcon, 180 on Olicity, SA's suddenly discovered "love" for BC, and maybe a strange behavior from Guggie, hm? So, in season 6, I bet SA will have that famous beard, and BC beside it. We can thank Geoff Johns for that (I think?) Look, I am all for new female character, but they barely concentrate on standard regulars, and if there is new BC she definitely won't come just for few episodes, she is here to stay as stated by Wendy.

Very basic Q: why not go back to Sara as Black Canary? Actress is already here, has own Show, has history with Oliver, IS recognized as real THE Black Canary by fans and EPs (before KC interference), and she can pop in every time when she is needed in Arrow, and people like her, so, why, o why making new drama in fandom introducing new BC#4? *sigh

I am sorry to say this, but Oliver Queen is one lousy human being, from the beginning of the show. At the first, I tolerate, hope for him, because contacts/talks/connections with others, precisely Moira, Thea, Digg, Tommy, Felicity - they all made him more human, more sympathetic. Now, he lost almost all these connections, and consequently those little human treats he showed. I already said this, but he is like robot to me right now, always with hands in pocket and looking almost without confidence, at the floor, I just can't read his emotions, but also maybe it is actors acting choice. I just don't like it. And if you do, good for you. Just after 5 years I expected something... more mature and SMART figure, someone more responsible and reasonable by now, not killing non-remorse machine. But that's just me. Maybe in the end of the season he will finally grown. But there is long road to 200th episode, and it's too early for writers to have smart lead. Hope for the best - is all what's left.

I can't wait for this show to come back! Has there been revealed date?

Also intrigue by show. I like mystery element, almost supernatural stuff. Taboo is definitely I just watched Christmas special Black Mirror episode almost immediately after Taboo, and I got double dose of Oona Chaplin :) I remember her from my favorite little show The Hour.

UGH, that was the worst.... I have all them block by now on twitter.

Sometimes, I think writers write season 5 as a literary comic book, where characters just spell words with no emoting. It's main purpose to come from plot A to B by C. But that's just me, surely some people love season 5 so far, so I must be in minority. I just don't fell nothing for lead character and I can't relate to his journey right now. I am on "wait and see" territory with show. I will catch later if I hear there's any payoff worthy watching.

This is main reason why I don't have hope in any good SL progress further in season(s). Especially after Twittergate by almost half BTS team.

I am just tired of this hate toward Felicity. Whole reddit is obsessed by her, they hate her so much, that every third post is about her. And it's obvious when comicbook sites make a article, that is author from reddit or influenced by reddit. It is tiresome be a fan of a show who hate his female audience :(

CW, I still waiting for that spin off! And article has one point right: Felicity IS way more popular than main character, and there lies hers doom in this man's world. p.s. author is misogynist a*hole

My speculation because I got in touch with my third eye on forehead * jk, I would love that I think Olicity is almost* over, but you'll never hear that juicy info from EPs (reasons: actors leaving, order from above, some other unknown sh** bts). Maybe later in season 7 we will found out when they would act surprised by ongoing olicity questions, They: "we already told their story, duh". Tina (Bird#4) WILL be regular in upcoming season(s), and will be important person in Oliver "growth" somehow, I doubt she'll right away be LI, EPs would want to wait for critics & viewers response, and they will write with double meanings their dialog, leaving doors for potential OTP. And still there is job for the rest of season 5 to make sure Olicity is vanished absolutely in mentions and in mind of viewers. *same treatment as Lauriver* Newbies: By media push, Horrific Guy and Bulldog will stay for next season, RageMan will probably be gone because something something (too magical), and Artemis will never ever come back (because she is terrible actress and in almost all scenes looking very in love in O, and EPs can't have underage girl looking lovedovey toward SA). Thea: still alive just because she shares blood with Queen family. Nothing of importance for her (I actually believe of all actors, WH will be first one to leave). Felicity: Leaving by the end of season, to another town or to do something. It's her turn to leave Star City. Story TBA. Diggle: will defend own honor and continue vigilanting as sidekick to Team Arrow. Lance: again, why is he still here in Star City? * I love PB the most as actor, but he lost his purpose long time ago. Oliver: will again making stupid decisions in upcoming seasons because... the Writers. Just speculations... I love when my readings of EPs come true, but in some instance I hate it. So far I was never wrong. This is the worst case scenario, a little supported by interviews, twitter-world and stalking spoilers. My best case scenario is FF and not currently supported by anything. I would LOVE to be surprised, so surprise me ARROW writers! *by be not so damn predictive.