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Carly had a DNA test run while she was pregnant to make sure Morgan wasn't Ric's. She was in a coma for however long after he was born though...

John Noble is 66, Tom Mison is 32.

She was in high school I thought.

I think part of the problem with Katrina is they want her to be powerful (she saved Ichabod) yet if she's too powerful she overshadows the Witnesses. That's why she can't vanquish Moloch, because that is Ichabbie's job. I think they have a purpose for her, but the storyline hasn't gotten to it yet.

Irving signed away his soul, he hasn't lost it yet. He doesn't become Moloch's servant until he dies.

I've also heard she was supposed to be killed off in the pilot, but neither makes sense considering she is all over the opening credits. How early in the process was this planned? Where is it mentioned?

I'm not as down on the show as many here, I do still like it. I don't understand Irving being sidelined, unless the quest for his soul is going to be a big part later. Jenny, I figured part was giving her a little time off since she just came off working double and part to fit her in more since she'd just been made a regular. It also did give more time to Katrina (who was shorted last season) and to introduce us more to Jenry and Hawley. I'm still hoping it pulls together more in the upcoming episodes. Crane, as a man of his time, should care about a son he just found out about. I don't think Katrina needs to turn evil, but I do want her to show more power and be more helpful to the Witnesses. As far as chemistry, why would anyone want it to be stronger? Ichabbie is obviously the main relationship, but that doesn't mean Crane can't have his already established wife more in the background. I still think the other two horsemen will be tied to Abbie. Maybe that's where Irving comes in? Or maybe Reyes? I think the essential humanity of the Witnesses is what will triumph over the evil of The Horsemen and Moloch in the end. They had to start with Headless obviously, but maybe they should have kept Henry in the background more to be #3 and used an Abbie-related horseman for the second one. In the end, I don't think Jenry will be redeemed and live out his life on earth. I think Jeremy will overcome Henry to help vanquish Moloch, which will regain Jeremy's soul as he goes off into the afterlife. He'll be evil until then, with maybe some more hints. A lot of what we are seeing may be like what happens in many book trilogies. Nobody expected the first season to be the hit it was, and now they have to step back and fill in more of what is needed to make it last seven or however many seasons. That's the boring part, but once it is out of the way things will pick up again.

Trying to remember the timeline of Brooke's kids. Did she adopt Laura2 before or after she had Jamie? Did she have an ectopic or dangerous pregnancy before Jamie? I remember Edmund tracking her down because she had run off, but don't remember when that happened.

This is kinda reminding me of what other writers did with Tad on AMC when he came back from the dead with amnesia. Same actor, he'd been found by a rich woman who thought he was her long-lost son. Dixie, the love of his life, was in another story (Brian? on the run with JR?) so they put him with one-time love Brooke. That was when Brooke got pregnant with Jamie. Eventually Tad got his memory back and went back to Dixie, but it took awhile.

It was both. The accident was real, Carly had just learned how to drive and then saw Sonny/Alexis in bed. She was dropping off a birthday card or something. Zander told Sonny that she had gotten a car. She was fine but decided to stay away a few days because she had gotten into one of the cabins. While they were searching for her they found a body in the lake, and AJ faked the DNA results so that she would be declared dead (and he would then get Michael). When Carly saw the headlines about her death, she came back.

This is awesome! First Nimoy on Fringe and now Shatner on Haven, I love it. What's Takei doing?

I think it's more he doesn't want Kalinda in a committed relationship that would cut him out. Is she older or younger than Zach? Intern would normally be later in undergrad, which would make her older so pre-marriage. Alicia was pregnant with Zach when they got married.

She's not immune to the Troubles though, she reacted to Chris last episode.

Also, Grace is younger than Zach. Aren't they two years apart?

Tom Hardy was born on GH, although offscreen during Rachel Ames' pregnancy leave. Audrey went back and forth between Steve Hardy and Tom Baldwin. They changed his name a couple times when he was a baby, when Audrey finally ended up with Steve he adopted him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_March_Hardy Hmm, I thought the murder trial was about Phil, not the nanny. I was pretty young at the time, looks like there were a few years between those storylines.

I like this show, I liked this episode. Katrina needs to be featured more; she is a main character, Katia was in the credits last season, but hardly had any screen time. Now that she is out of purgatory, they are making up for it. Storywise, I think Henry jumped the gun a little trying to bring Moloch into the world to make up for being yelled at. Doesn't Moloch need all four horsemen together first? Right now we have two horsemen that are tied to Ichabod. To me, that means the other two will be tied to Abbie. Irving and Jenny are already on board, they don't need to be recruited. Reyes and Hawley are new, so they are getting more exposure. Once we get to the other two horsemen, they too will get a lot of focus, backstory, and screen time as they are woven into the show. I don't expect TPTB to give every actor the same amount of story. They are telling a story, and use the characters as needed. I'm watching for the story, and I'm willing to see where it goes. Ichabod needs Katrina the same way Abbie needs Jenny: a strong family tie. Both witnesses need to recruit more allies, and Abbie obviously has more opportunities because she knows more people from this time period. Ichabod is starting from scratch with each person he meets, in a way Abbie is not. As I said before, TPTB are setting up a story, and right now they are working on the Scooby gang. Last season we got the main characters and some of the supporters. This season, they are setting up more. Sure they could have more throw-away lines, but who is to say they didn't and they got cut for time? This episode did move the story along. Katrina is integrated more, and the emotional ties to two horsemen give our heroes another advantage in how to overcome The Horsemen. Next episode IMHO