Sharonana

This was posted on the Facebook page called Supporters of Wade Robson and other victims. So much truth!!!

The amount of naysayers and those that have such blind faith to still believe that Michael Jackson would never do something like this is incredible. At the very least, the baseline of the entire story is that a grown ass man was sleeping in bed with young boys. That is so wrong on so many levels. No matter how much MJ tried to romanticize it, it was wrong. It's very upsetting reading the negative comments. They shouldn't even get to have an opinion if they haven't watched the documentary but alas, this is America. Even if they did watch it and came away still thinking that Wade and James are lying...well they are some cold, cold hearted people.

I re-watched the second half of the documentary and came away despising Wade's mother even more. She made his abuse about her when she asked, "How could you not tell me about this?" My question to her would be, "Why weren't you more observant?" "Why didn't you question a grown man sleeping with your son?" "Why didn't you protect your son?" She said she supposed she had to take SOME responsibility? Ugh!!! The entire Robson family is angry with her, and rightly so. I would love to have been a fly on the wall during his marriage to Lisa Presley. That book would be a best seller! This is some heavy shit and I'm with some of the posters that feel like this is just too much. My heart breaks for those poor, innocent boys. I did read yesterday that Neverland is back on the market. It was originally for sale for $100 million dollars. The price has been reduced to $31 million. I've always wondered why he quit living there after his trial in 2005. Guilt maybe??? Did he stop abusing boys after that trial?

Little did we all know that he was indeed grooming the world. Things that make ya go hmmm........

I ended up signing up for a free week of HBO just so I could watch this documentary. Going to watch one more time before I cancel. LOL. Wow! I have so many thoughts. My heart goes out to those two men. They are so brave coming forward with their story. This forum seems to be the only place with understanding and empathetic folks. I've looked on Facebook and Twitter and there are so many angry people calling these men liars. They really are blinded by the "shiny" things. The victim blaming is unreal. The mothers were clueless and yes I understand MJ groomed them as well, but they were adults and they should have been protecting their children. They failed miserably. It's understandable that the guys are having a hard time forgiving their mothers. Poor James. He seems so fragile. When he and Wade hugged at the end of the Oprah interview...tears. I loved when Wade said he wanted to be able to tell the truth as loudly as he had to tell the lie. How can anyone not believe them? There are just too many specifics and too many similar experiences between them. MJ was really sick. I cannot find the appropriate adjectives to convey my disgust with his actions. HE is the liar!!! I cannot listen to his music anymore. I am so totally disgusted, disappointed and dismayed by his behavior. He abused his power to gratify his sexually depraved mind. I was shocked at how often he had sex with these boys. This is a horrible thing to say, but I'm glad he is no longer on this earth. He will not be able to harm another child ever again!!! I hope all those effected by MJ will find some peace in their life. I just want to hug all of them. ❤️

I don't have HBO and am tempted to get an add on to Hulu for the free week just to see this. I have always thought something was weird/off about MJ and am a firm believer that where there's smoke, there's fire. That Wendy Williams clip a few pages back pissed me off. I don't think for one second that Wade nor James are liars. What could they possibly have to gain from lying about this? I hope they both can find some peace in their lives now that they have lifted this terrible burden.

I was staring at it too. Her nose is crooked and one nostril is bigger than the other. Something weird happened to her face during the off season. 🤷‍♀️

YAAASSSSS!!!!!! 🙌🙌🙌 I am not a fan of LVP or LVP Pump Rules. I'm sorry Lisa lost her brother, but I am looking forward to her not being on the show. Maybe they will have some fun then. Maybe my mind doesn't work like others. I don't see any big conspiracy of a take down of LVP. I'm simple minded like that. LOL! 🤷‍♀️

Well...I'm always a day and a dollar short....😜....but I'm just now catching this on Netflix. I'm not a rap fan, but I do love some true crime stories. In the past few days I've binge watched this program and the one on A&E. I truly wish they could solve this crime, but no one is talking. I get the feeling that most of the people that know anything about anything are dead. Suge Knight probably knows, but he ain't talking. 🙊

The funeral service of President George H.W. Bush was so moving, filled with grace and dignity and much humor. He must have been a funny man. I cannot imagine all the planning and preparation that went into this grand event. The family must be exhausted by now. My eyes filled with tears during much of the service. The choirs and singers sang beautifully. The speakers were so eloquent. My heart swelled with pride watching the honor guard. I served 10 years in the air force, and it was some of the best and most proud moments of my life. It was an honor and privilege to watch this most beautiful and poignant celebration of this man's life. RIP President George H.W. Bush.

The comeback idea is the worst ever! There were so many better and more deserving contestants that got the boot that should have stayed. Ugh with this show!

I see no one has been here for almost 3 years and I can understand why. I recently started watching this craptastic TV show because it's on Hulu. Tyler Perry should be ashamed of himself for writing, producing and directing such shit. I can't believe Oprah would even allow it on her network. The dialogue and plot go round and round in circles. One can miss several episodes and they are still on the same plot. The acting is awful! I can't stand Randall or Eddie. Yeah...I'm hate watching too. It's so awful.

If Carole would have gotten all up in Bethenny's face like Bethenny did to Carole, there would be so much outrage! I don't blame Carole for distancing herself from the relationship. Bethenny is a scary angry person!

Angela dodged a bullet. Eric is such a dick!

God forbid if Carole would have shoved her phone in Bethenny's face and yelled booyah bitch and called her a moron. So it's okay for Bethenny to do that??? Ironical! :P

I started rewatching season 5 of RHONY a few days ago. I had forgotten how much animosity there was between Heather and Ramona. It was mentioned several times among the women how different the dynamics of the group were when Ramona wasn't around. She was so completely unaware of her words and behavior. I kinda felt sorry for her seeing how desperate she was being around Mario. That snake!

@film noire thank you for the kind words. It was tough but really makes us realize what's really important. Hope everyone has a great Labor Day weekend!

Whether someone is rich or poor doesn't matter because being a caregiver to someone with a debilitating illness sucks the life out of you. Of course not being able to afford medical care is another stressor in and of itself. We are truly blessed that my husband has excellent medical insurance because the two illnesses he had would have put us in the poor house for sure. Thank you! We are good. Onward and upward!

Thank you Mozelle. You know the saying, what doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. Well I think I'm about as strong as I want to be. ;) <3

My husband has almost died twice in the 40 years that we have been married. First time 10 years ago to esophageal cancer. He no longer has an esophagus. His stomach was pulled up through his body and attached to the small piece of esophagus that was left. The radiation and chemo alone almost killed him. Second time 2 years ago to 14, yes 14 brain lesions that just developed out of nowhere. One lesion was so big that they did a craniotomy to drain the lesion that was on the front of his brain. To this day, they still have no idea where they came from. He was put on steroids and to say it changed his personality is an understatement. There were times I couldn't stand to be around him. My emotions were completely on autopilot. I felt like a zombie had taken over my body. All I did was try to be strong for my husband. It wasn't until months and years later after each illness that I fully realized the gravity of the situation. I thought I would never stop crying. I would never judge anyone on how they react to their spouse's illness. Watching your husband fight for his life while a ravaging disease takes over his body ain't for the faint of heart. It's truly the worst thing that has ever happened in my entire life. I'm not telling this because I want sympathy, but I can cut Carole a lot of slack in that department.

After all is said and done, the crux of the matter is that a friendship has ended...a friendship that used to be close and fun and enjoyable to watch. Now they just snip and snipe at each other trying to prove who is right. They were both wrong and both have said hurtful things. They both feel the need to defend themselves. They are both in pain and hurting over that loss, and it's no longer fun to watch. For some reason they just couldn't make their way back to each other. I think that perhaps they could have benefited from some counseling to help them figure out how their relationship went south. Now here we are nitpicking their words to death trying to be just as right. I understand that's what these forums are about, but it's pointless to me. In the end, it's Bethenny and Carole that have suffered the loss of a friendship that used to be important to them. And that's all I got to say about that! :P And I still like Dorinda, so there! LOL!

I don't even want to understand. It's just a TV show with people we don't even know.

I don't get it either. I'm not that invested in these howives. It's just mindless entertainment, or as Carole said, "it's not that deep." If I was any of these RHONY, I'd shut down my social media accounts. Dorinda can't even post a picture of a tree without getting torched. Way too much negativity.

@giaNtsandYankees ITA about Michael Ketterer. His voice is average at best. It's the back story that's got people eating it up. He's adopted a bunch of kids, which is great, but that doesn't make him a Vegas act.

I always seem to be disappointed with the outcome of these type of shows. Real talent gets ousted. No way Slavic should still be there, nor Genessy. Of course Jensen is destined to be the winner. As soon as I discovered who her sister was, it was obvious she was the golden child. Nepotism maybe? JayJay and Darius are awesome dancers. I don't know jack about dancing, but I can tell which dancers are more talented. My husband was born and raised in Hawaii. He grew up dancing Tahitian. He wasn't feeling the dance. Not enough hip action and really getting down in it says he. :) Why is Vanessa a judge again? I'd rather Paula Abdul or Jason whatever his last name is. Vanessa doesn't offer any constructive criticism. Fabulous, awesome and beautiful is how she describes most dancers. Bleh!