Zung Li

The funny thing is she really toned that down for this show. When she was being sleuthed as a contestant I (embarrassingly) watched some videos of her youtube show "Roll Models" and her upspeak and vocal fry were way worse than they are now.

The real problem with Rachel (my opinion only) is that they would have to decide in advance and not at the last minute. They would need to put in time and effort to cast enough men in their 30's. They can't just throw 25 lily white frat boys in their early twenties at her. They obviously have a stagnant pool of applicants for both shows that they draw from with a few new ones thrown in the mix. I think Raven was probably cast for Luke, for example. Since they gave Nick such young girls I don't know that they are willing or capable of finding enough older contestants for Rachel- not even taking race into account. PS- that rambling statement from Wells makes him sound like a douche. Bringing up the election in relation to the Bachelorette? Really reaching.

Touché! I guess we're lucky they didn't have some kind of jumping the broom for Nick's heart competition out back where the slave quarters used to be.

I could buy the forced to keep her excuse for the first few episodes- but Nick keeps Corinne all the way through hometown dates. If ever a season needed a distraction it was JoJo's- yet Chad only made it through episode 4. Sorry but I'm holding Nick responsible for subjecting me to Corinne.

Yes, and the high waist bell bottoms. Those wouldn't look good on anyone but they made her hips look as wide as a house. I wonder what Nick thinks watching the show now. He said he hates baby talk and now he gets to see Corinne say things like "shovel the poopy" and "mean old swampy monster" He let his season be taken over by a homely little fish-lipped troll with yellow scraggly hair and no lower face. Idiot.

I had Danielle M as a potential Bachelorette in my mind but after seeing that outfit she obviously can't be trusted to make good decisions. Sorry, Danielle, you're out of the running (in my mind). The only way the show could redeem itself for me now is if Nick chose Alexis and she wore her shark costume to the final rose ceremony. That would make up for them ruining this season with the Corinne nonsense. Since that won't happen I'll have to hold onto the hope that the shark will show up on BIP.

This all Corrine all the time is boring af. I was still reading the spoilers up through this date so I knew Danielle L danced with her boobs out during that concert. So it's not like interesting stuff didn't happen. Yet all we get is another awkward "slow dance" and kiss in front of a crowd. Show us the reactions to the "wardrobe malfunction"- something, anything besides more of Corrine trying to be funny and villainous. I might be the only one who doesn't want to see her on BIP- and she couldn't handle Chad for 5 minutes. He'd have her in tears and running for her life. Even that hard old drunk Lace couldn't deal with Chad for a full night. If Vanessa wasn't there I think Nick would be a lot more into Kristina. She's intriguing and kind of intimidating. Man Kryptonite. She or Danielle M would be my picks for Bachelorette.

A walk of shame with bad posture and wearing a baggy butted romper no less. I just watched a Jimmy Kimmel link on youtube that was posted the other day and damn it I accidentally got spoiled. The suggested videos that come up on the side of the screen based on what you watch had a spoiler in the title. Just a heads up for anyone else who doesn't want to know.

Liz is a two-face because she's okay in the upper face but has an overbite, giant jaw and chin, and creepy smile thing that she does that makes her ugly. Here is an example but it gets worse as she holds the expression (for a looong time)

It took me a couple of days to realize that we were not subjected to a Sainted Single Mother With Tragic Backstory! Thank ye, Bachelor gods! Now I have to go have a look at Vanessa's entrance to see his reaction and Vanessa's head size.

It's funny that people remember Nick as being feminine on Andi's season. I remember her guys wearing scarves every day and pretty boy Marcus had quite the pastel wardrobe.

I can't believe Nose-Balls and Sharkgirl stayed but Lauren and Olivia went home. There are some ugly girls but I tried not to judge too harshly once I realized a couple of them were actually dudes. They did the best they could with what they had to work with. I was also surprised that Taylor "my friends say you're a piece of shit" didn't get sent packing. What a stupid thing to say! Speaking of stupid, Ladies (and gentlemen?) listen up: stop bringing up Nick's past relationships when you talk to him. Relentlessly reminding him of other women is not the way to get him to like you. Most guys his age have a couple of kids and at least one divorce under their belt so stop acting like his past is such a big deal. I can see saying it when talking with the producers because they are encouraging it for the storyline but give it a rest when you finally get a couple minutes to talk with him.

Okay I just saw a screenshot I think it's the unemployed nurse who slaps him. This is going to be good!

I am excited for this season so stopped reading spoilers. Can anyone tell if it's Platinum Twat who smacks him in the face during the preview? Love how Danielle Lo (Me So Horny) looks down and to the side when she gives the standard " I can see myself falling in love with you" she's a bad liar.

Does anyone think Nick might not pick anyone? Or that he will but not with an engagement? If so, do you think the fans of the show would be mad about it? I've not watched every season so I don't know what the fallout is if they don't propose at the end.

Jade did both. http://thechive.com/2014/12/19/happy-birthday-jade-elizabeth-25-hq-photos/ Danielle http://thechive.com/2013/02/13/danielle-lo-brings-thechive-to-its-knees-20-hq-photos/

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Agreed! When it gets down to the top 3 I would like them to be a little older with more going for them than, say, the twins or Amanda, but not crazy and desperate.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think she'll at least bring outside drama in the form of tabloid stories. Some of her "co-workers" would probably sell their mothers for $100 so I expect they will be happy to talk to the tabloids for a couple thousand.

Hell yes! I want them to fight over the guy. That's what makes it entertaining for me. If I can tell nobody even wants to hang out with him (let alone marry him) then it's not as fun to watch. Chris' season was like that. They didn't cast anyone who would have any interest in dating him. I'm not a Chris fan but he got screwed on the casting. If Nick ends up without anyone after his "journey" maybe those two could give it a go. They seem to have more chemistry than I've seen with either of them with women (except Nick with Andi)

Don't I wish! I didn't want Ben because he was so young and I knew that was going to mean a bunch of even younger than usual girls that we would be stuck with both for BIP and leftovers for the next Bachelor. I could really use a break from the up-speaking, giggling girls who say, "like" every other word. I would also really like it if Show would stop trolling Chive girls for contestants.

I'm cringing with second hand embarrassment.. http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/nick-viall-hooked-up-with-bachelor-contestant-before-show-w444208

I thought of Robby as an over 50 gay man in Florida (who was possibly wearing a hair piece) not that there's anything wrong with that.

Somewhere, Grant's mother weeps.

More shallowness- I've always really liked Nick but I'm going to need him to stop wearing Jennifer Grey's jean shorts from Dirty Dancing when he is the Bachelor. Grant can keep wearing his if he stays off my TV.