BetyBee

After Max PUSHED Aaron and his MOTHER, words came out of my mouth unbidden, "Put that kid in a reform school." But Katims wasn't done. Kristina glaring at drivers whose cars she ran in front of after running after the most special snowflake of all was bad enough. No, he still wasn't done. Then she tells her monster child that he is brave. I am amazed at the ridiculousness of the writing on this show. We are definitely supposed to think that Kristina is super-mom. I listened to the Afterbuzz TV podcast this episode and they all agreed that Max was brave and Kristina is awesome. It is apparently an alternate universe. I am not going to miss this show. But I already miss the show it might have been.

I did not even think of Tig hurting Venus or vice versa; however, I didn't really believe Tig's "heartfelt" speech. I don't know if the actor didn't sell it (for me) or if it was just so out of character, but I didn't find it as touching as many others did. I totally buy Walt Goggins as Venus, but I don't buy a sincere and deeply in love Tig.

I was blown away by the ending, then immediately fearful that Jax wouldn't believe Abel and would head in the wrong direction like he always seems to do. Jax's glee at Juice's situation made me think that he might reveal to Tully who Juice's father was after he no longer has any use for Juice. Jax is a cold hearted bastard. I'd like to see Gemma get what she deserves, but I don't trust Sutter at all. Still, at least he finally gave us a good episode.

I've been thinking a lot about this. I don't think Gemma will die, at least not by Abel's hand. That is too dark a place for even Sutter to go to. I think that he keeps showing us how awful Gemma & Jax are when it comes to parenting kids for a reason. I mean really, burying Uncle Bobby steps from the cabin & laying him on the picnic table where Abel can and did see him - all shot up and missing an eye! And let's not forget there there is a junkie in the house (2 actually) and drugs as well as loads of guns. It's ridiculous. I think he's showing the relative better parenting of Wendy and possibly Nero (though I think he's doomed) because he has plans for the kids to get out of Charming and away from the poison that is Jax & Gemma. Nero may hand over access to the farm to Wendy with his dying breath, but I believe that is where she and the boys will land. Since Gemma knows all about the farm and no one could keep her from "her boys" she will either have to die or go to prison. I think she'll go to prison and Jax will die. As for Unser, we are going to waste at least 2 more episodes with him blabbing all to Gemma. His ridiculous love for her is what facilitated her murdering Tara in the first place. I would imagine that he is doomed as well, but since he's a "good" guy, he'll probably die saving someone - Eglee, Wendy or the kids. I'm not sure who the "rat" is - I think it's quite likely Chucky, since his hands are not as dirty as Rat's, but Rat is the other possibility. They have both had some odd close ups that seem to be pointing out that they might be duplicitous. If it's a long term rat working with the feds, then I think it's one of those 2. If it's a short term rat, only "guilty" of revealing the whearabouts of the guns to the Chinese, then I think it's Barosky. He seems pretty fed up with Handsome Jack.

How about "Birth Mama"?

I thought that the actor playing Max looked like he was about to crack up when Adam and Crosby were explaining the bases. It was nice to see a smile, however small, on Max's face.

On Rob Cesterino's latest post show recap, he mentioned a couple of things that struck me as interesting. One is just funny - that apparently Juice's jailer's are keeping his head shaved. The other thing. Another idea they've been floating is that the "rat" might be Chucky or Tig. Chucky because he's "a good listener" and used to work with the Triad and Tig because Jax set him up to be killed at that warehouse, but he survived, perhaps after making a deal with Pope (or Marks - I forget which). I've read those theories elsewhere, but when Rob lays them out, they are hilarious.

Ugh - I have zero faith in Sutter telling a reasonable story. He is retconning to make John Teller's death a suicide, imo. Maybe Tara's death will be a suicide too, by episode 13. I hope I'm wrong and Gemma gets what she deserves - a life alone in prison, surrounded by women who are far tougher than she is and zero contact with "her boys". .

Thanks, leisawoo. I do remember Jax whispering that to Juice, but I didn't remember him sending him after Gemma. I dislike Unser too - he's the one who got Gemma all upset with his misinformation. Everyone seems to forget how upset she was that night and to forget about her stealing Unser's truck.

I really have no idea how it will end. I've been listening to podcasts and reading what I can find on the internet. Some seem to think that Chucky is a Fed, some think that Ratboy will live up to his name. I think it's most likely that Jury has a plan for revenge on Jax and that Robocop will help put an end to" Handsome Jack's" plans. But one thing has been bothering me. Why did Juice go to Jax & Tara's house the night of her murder? Did he ever say? Whatever happens, it will be gruesome. I think the only thing that would really bother me is if Gemma gets away with murder and the show ends with her still thinking of herself as Grandma of the year.

This. Kids pick up on everything and no one acts normal around Abel. Even when Tara was around, she was all tense and fearful and making plans to leave and packing them up on a moment's notice and staying in a motel with them. Then since she died (his mother that he loves DIED), he has a stream of different caretakers, whatever hooker, crow-eater or porn actress is available to make him a sandwich. Dad is distant, Grandma is keeping her distance. His life is a disaster. Poor kid, the one all these idiot Tellers claim to be doing everything for. It's disgusting.

If Winsome is to become the new love interest, then why did Sutter have her say something as stupid as anti-semantic? Or does he think that is correct usage? I would think that she would be some brilliant accidental whore if she was meant to be good enough for clever (not) Jax. Did I mishear? I thought Nero asked Alvarez for twice as much money as his half of Diosa is worth. Does Nero have a secret plan? I was certain that Nero would be the one who got killed when Gemma sent the message for him to come to the cabin. I also thought Thomas, then Rat might die at her hands. She is certifiable!! They certainly don't seem to worry about guns around small children. I have a feeling the bad seed will get hold of a gun and blow his "good grandma" away. I just hope little Thomas doesn't get caught in the crossfire. And poor Abel - what a life he's had!

Did he really use a spoon? Because that means we've had a fork and a spoon used for mayhem. Perhaps Jax will meet his maker at the point of a knife?

I guess not that many people have watched all the episodes? I really enjoy the show, though I can't believe sometimes how selfish the Pfeffermans are. What Ali did to Josh's new relationship was pretty awful. The Colton twist caught me by surprise and I hope that's just what Josh needs to finally grow up. Sometimes in the kids' flashbacks, I get an Ice Storm vibe. Ali especially was left to raise herself. I do like that the parents are so supportive of one another post divorce. I couldn't help but feel sorry for Ed having to rely on Pfeffermans for his care!

I believe Gemma commented to Gertie, "You're a good girl." I think Gertie represents the life Gemma would have had if she had been a "good girl," but she's not. She's a horrible, evil, murderous, miserable excuse for a human being. She's poison.

d-oh! Thanks Buckboard. I don't know what I was thinking! Thanks for setting me straight!

That was a great article, Artsda. As for me, half of the fun of watching Sons, is listening to the Watchers of Anarchy podcast the following Saturday. They are so funny! http://watchersofanarchy.com/

I actually felt sorry for Alicia as she stood in the parking lot after talking to Lemond Bishop and realized that she wasn't as popular with the people as it seems; instead she will be beholden to a drug kingpin if she runs. And honestly, as a resident of her state, I find it highly unlikely that she would be 8 points ahead. Her husband is a scandal ridden governor, who has already been in prison. Most of our governors go to prison after serving in office, not before. Yes, it's a blue state, but the right holds a lot of power and regardless of what people think, Chicago is not the entire state! I can't imagine Patti Blagojevichh running for state's attorney and that being well received by the people of Illinois during Rod B's time in office. The "good wife" of season 1, the loving mother and sister we have seen, would not subject her family to having their lives opened up in that way. I don't care for this story line, though it was fun to see her react to each new tidbit and she got some zingers in as she learned of the skeletons in her family closet. I am very curious as to what is the story behind the non-existent scar on Johnny Elfman's face? That was an odd, apparently incorrect factoid that is sure to come up again.

This! I guess I have no faith in Sutter and I think he thinks that Gemma is the best Mom ever. She's so horrible that I really hope I'm wrong and that she gets her comeuppance. After all he allowed Otto to meet his maker, so I'm hoping he will do the same for Gemma.

This show has become depressingly bad. I'm here until the end, but reading the snark here and listening to podcasts about it is the only pleasure I get from it anymore. Jax and Gemma are the worst ever. It seems completely out of character for the others to go along with Jax's crazy plans. And I'm sick to death of Juice's whining and Unser's stupidity. Poor dead-eyed Abel. What was he even doing at a whore house? Watching his crazy, evil, murderous grandma explain away her injuries was just pathetic. Gemma's soliloquy to the birds, explaining her opinion that everything was meant to be....well, it was literally "for the birds." There is truly no one left to root for. I'm hoping Jury & August Marks get together and make a plan to take down every son and Gemma too. Maybe she & "baby" Jax can die in one another's arms. They are so creepy, bordering on incestuous. Ugh.

I thought it was a great season opener. Cary's arrest, the jail scenes and the sleazy efforts of the supposed "good guys" in the DA's office were chilling. Matt C really portrayed the changes he was going through. He looked tired and pale and frantic and the hopelessness he showed as Kalinda walked right past him without noticing him, was chilling. I don't believe for a minute that Cary is guilty. He's always been a good and smart attorney. I don't think he crossed any line, but that possibility will drag the story out and I'm glad for the actor for that. It's a good, meaty role. It was so sad that Cary's crappy parents wouldn't support him. I like how Alicia tried to protect him from that bit of knowledge. In fact I loved how Alicia and Robin and even Dianne were fighting for him.

Molly's "baby" is better than the aliens he serves. He sounds as if he doesn't want to do their bidding. Maybe he and his "brother" will get together and save the world?

I just have no faith in Sutter ending this thing with Gemma getting what's coming to her. I think he really thinks he's portraying her as a good mother. I hope I'm wrong. I'm just hate watching at this point, because there's no one left worth caring about, except perhaps Nero. The violence in that overly long episode was just too much, absolutely disgusting. I hate that I have to spend so much of the show with the volume lowered and my eyes covered. The series has gone on too long and it really isn't a good show, imo. I was sure Gemma would kill Juice when she was sitting on the couch with him. He's certainly doomed. She'll probably kill him just as he's about to spill the truth to Jax. She'll have to - to "protect her boys".

Walt whistling after disposing of the body of the kid on the dirt bike. The way he tortured Schyler and seemed to enjoy it, the way his ego made him talk too much and keep giving Hank clues. The way he manipulated Jesse. The way Walt's actions eventually led Hank to his death and THEN Walt was sorry? He truly was a despicable character. but the show is amazing in its portrayal of his descent into evil.

I've been re-watching for days and I am surprised at how much I dislike Walt this time around. And I feel supportive of Schyler. I did not see that coming. I think it's different when you marathon watch vs. normal viewing. I'm about halfway through season 5. It's has dang ego that gets in the way every time. I've also noticed that he seems to blab a lot when he's under the influence, which is rare, but always has consequences.