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The more Vicki talks about Donn the more pissed off at her I get & I may be a bit touchy on the subject after my extended holiday weekend with my in-laws. Hubby & I are going to celebrate our 22nd aniiversary tomorrow & it was brought up during a dinner. My FIL (full disclosure: he was drunk by now) leans over, nudges me with his elbow & says I'd say you did pretty good for yourself... initially I assumed he meant because my hubby is a great guy (& he is) so I nod in agreement. I guess I should've waited to agree because he ellaborated that "my station in life" has been raised due to this marriage. When I met Mr. Lucy he was a poor college student with a part time job from a middle class family. I had a full-time job & was from a middle class family. My FIL took a risk 20 years ago & leveraged just about everything he had & bought into the construction company he worked for, it paid off & he retired a multi-millionaire. Mr. Lucy is an Electrician & I was a SAHM (we sacrificed many material things over the years so I could be home with my son, a decision we made together) Anyway when FIL said that to me, it made me feel completely worthless, like I was some kind of gold-digger with a crystal ball 22 years ago. If I remember correctly Vicki had nothing when she got with Donn & anything she accomplished during that marriage was a joint effort. She didn't start off selling insurance, making a killing. Aa business was built over time, with Donn's support & blessing. Anything he got in that divorce was EARNED! Shit, after putting in 20 years with Vicki he was probably short changed. JACKPOT, my ass!! (Sorry that was so long, I am still upset from the weekend)

Happy Thanksgiving, PTV family!! Hope everyone is spending the day exactly as they wish :) I would like to go ahead & announce my HW Christmas wish & it would be for them to strap Vicki up to a lie detector, along with some kind of shocking device & every time she lies, it zaps her lying ass!! Better yet, have Vicki & Brooks both hooked up at the same time in the same room & get someone who knows how to ask a question (not bravoAndy!) interrogate their asses... I nominate LT. Joe Kenda, Homicide Hunter!

Absolutely loved the uncensored episode (I too want NJ & NY's Scary Island). It made me itchy to rewatch season one over again. I'm up to the dinner from Hell & I really had forgotten how despicable Alison Dubois was, she probably still is. I had also forgotten how much of a narcissistic bitch Camille was. I grew to actually like Camille after her PR makeover but always suspected it was a combo PR spin & maybe being knocked down a peg or two once her marriage fell apart. Something I never paid any attention to in the first run but I can't stop looking at it now is the weird tinsel Adrienne has threaded through her hair.

OhGromit, I loved Shannon's rebuttal video as well & although I agree she could have done a better job, what I mostly loved about it was that it was clearly unrehearsed & unpolished because she was fired up. It was awesome because of it's rawness :)

The most enjoyable thing to come out of this one on one with Andy & Vicki was listening to Shannon's facebook video rebuttal & how she called the interview weak with no hard questions & a joke.... I just can't stop giggling about it because in all her outrage, Shannon is calling Andy's interviews exactly what they are... a big fat joke! I wonder how Andy is gonna feel about that? It probably won't go well since Shannon just won me over & became my favorite HW!

Noticed instead of her normal tight, white titty exposing dress Vicki had on a church dress. Everything was covered up, I half expected to see one of Phaedra's prayer cloths over Vicki's knees LOL. Vicki didn't do anything to change my mind... I still think Brooks used the cancer "diagnosis" to get into Vicki's house & I don't think it took much convincing because that is where Vicki wanted him, since she can't live without a man. One thing is for certain, there is no way in HELL she was defending Brooks to her cast mates as vigorously as she was then going home & questioning him like she claims. I also call bullshit on her being afraid he will spill her SSN as to why she is scared of Brooks. If Brooks is smart he will just slither away & never be heard from again.

I will watch Vicki on WWHL, mostly because I want to gauge how Andy handles Vicki... if he uses kids gloves then she will more than likely be back next season. Not the most scientific way to go about it, I know. The last time I refused to watch someone anymore it was when Andy had Jill Zarin (who I found repulsive for exaggerating the severity of Bawby's throat surgery... ear to ear!! But at least it was real) & she made a total ass of herself. I won't make that mistake again, I will be enjoying it with a tequila sunrise & popcorn.

I really think Vicki has ran her cycle. She has acted like a complete bigot (no examples needed, I'm sure), a total hypocrite (I can think of many examples but the way she judges other people's relationships & comments on them while at the same time, you need to keep your mouth shut about her man), & an entitled ass (Family Van, OG of the OC... the list is endless). Not to mention she was there to co-sign the entire Naked Wasted incident with Tamra. But having her name associated with fake cancer is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Vicki has bitched over the years about deserving respect & deserving to be treated like she is something special, but she always leaves out the biggest part of deserving & that it is earned. Congratulations Vicki, you are a special kind of asshole, who deserves everything she is getting because she finally earned it!!

Teresa tops the list for me as well because people have lost their livelihoods because of the Giudice's fraudulent actions & messing with innocent people's lives is unacceptable. At this point Vicki & Brooks's actions didn't effect anyones bottomline. (I reserve the right to change my mind if anything new comes out but thus far it hasn't been shown Brooks got any reduction in his support payments). Truthfully I don't need a chart or ranking of despicibleness to find them all horrendous for various reasons.

Phaedra needs to pay Todd the remainder of the money she owes him & move on but it is Todd's responsibility to talk to Phaedra about it. Todd shouldn't be taking a hit because Phaedra paid Apollo's legal bills. And although I agree Phaedra should have talked to Kandi about her problems with Kandi. It was clear, to me, that Kandi has been talking about her issues with Phaedra with other people, or Don Juan wouldn't have been so free to voice his opinions, as well. I do wish people would stop worrying about if/when Phaedra takes HER children to see Apollo in prison. It is Phaedra's decision to make & it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks about it. I don't even have the words for Porsha because as soon as I think of her the first word that pops up is embarrassing. & because it can't be said enough: Run, Cynthia, RUN & grab your pocketbook on the way out!!

ZM thanks for posting that... Although even hearing Brooks's name makes my stomach queasy, I am fine with extended coverage of his scam if it keeps some unsuspecting non-housewife viewer from falling victim to his game. I have no doubts he would have tried to pull this same shit with someone else & unfortunately, the third time wasn't the charm & he is being exposed for the asshat that he is.

Damn, Don Juan need to stay out of grown folks business with his busy body ass! You just don't get all up into your employers business like that. It always seems like he's auditioning for his own peach. Of course this is all Kandi's fault for allowing it to begin with.

I like Shannon & enjoy most of her kookiness because it makes me laugh & SMH. Her sense of humor when she was referring to her house vs. Heather Dubrow's was hilarious. 9 lemons & all :) I am not going to judge Shannon for anything regarding David's affair, how she is handling it or dealing with TOW because I have never been in her situation (& for Mr. Lucy's well-being, I better never be LOL). I don't know how I would react if I were.

I was a SAHM (now I am a SAHWife) & my BFF is the main breadwinner in her home so she has to work & I have always been sympathetic when she would call me because she forgot to send juice boxes for her kids class & drop what I was doing to run them to the school for her (it happened more often than one would think), until she started in with the "It's not like you work" or "It isn't like you have anything better to do" remarks... So I just be a bit more sensitive to Vicki's remarks than others would be. I couldn't stop laughing at Heather's map blowing away either... but I stand behind Mike selling Vicki's shit on ebay as the funniest for me

I don't find it odd that Vicki wouldn't have attended most of Brooks appointments (as phantom as they are) because my hubby loves me to pieces & has never been to any of my dr appointments with the exception of my late pregnancy checkups & that was because I was too big to drive (short girl problems lol). Of course I don't have cancer. He works people!! ;) I think Vicki would have been better served if she hadn't tried to appear super involved. If she would have stuck to her normal mantra of I work! I work! I work! then I would have an easier time believing she was duped. And for the record I don't believe she was duped. As for abuse, I hesitate to weigh in one way or the other because abuse isn't black or white. What qualifies as abuse to me may not cause someone else to bat an eyelash. I had a friend whose hubby called her a fucken bitch like it was her first name, I was appalled & she laughed about it. Not exactly abuse but shades of gray to me. If my husband called me that all the time it would wear me down.

I would much rather watch Heather spend on obscene amount on Door knobs & pulls since AFAIK she can afford it, than watch Teresa Giudice throw money around that I know she doesn't have. I didn't think the sex store was a big deal (I wouldn't spend that much in there) & I wouldn't hand over my card without getting a total first, so that didn't strike me as odd or braggy. What I am sick of hearing is Vicki bitching or lecturing these women, who don't work (according to Vicki) about spending their husband's money. Every single one of these women bring in a Bravo paycheck to contribute to the family purse. I just wish someone would break the fourth wall & say "Bitch, I am working right now, why else do you think I am spending time with you? Bravo is paying me to." It is just ridiculous to have to pretend they aren't all getting paid to be on this show & Vicki needs to stop insisting others aren't working too. I'd have a hard time not wanting to slap her, I would certainly be counting to 10 so much people would start to think I was Rain Man

I giggled my ass off watching michael tell Vicki her shit is going on Ebay when she dies!! He just flat out doesn't play in to her hysterics.

I'm not embarrassed to admit I like both Terry & Heather, pretentiousness & all!! They are harmless I listened to her 2nd podcast yesterday while I cleaned my kitchen... I enjoyed it. Next week, Terry & Paul Nassif are her guests

SO I am rewatching the season, I know I am a glutton for punishment. I'm at the one after Vicki's mom died & she is now leaving for the funeral. I am going with Vicki found out at the Bunko party, she just isn't that good of an actress. And try as she might to convince everyone that her family all liked Brooks, he wouldn't have been unwelcome at her mom's funeral if that was the case. Totally, OT for this thread but I just ordered Terry & Heather's skin care products for myself for my anniversary (the hubby sucks at gift giving so if I want something good I gotta get it myself LOL)

I can't believe I am even going to type this to you all & you couldn't pick me out of a lineup if you needed to but a few years ago I tripped & hit the corner of the coffee table with my mouth knocking some off my teeth out & I would die of embarrassment if anyone announced to people that all my teeth weren't real. Vicki must see herself as some kind of tooth fairy... she fixed Brooks's teeth & bought new ones for mom. It like shots at a bar! Teeth for everyone, on Vicki!!

I don't live in a huge metro area like OC but my dad was just in the hospital twice for a week each time this past month & every time the nurse (my sister is also a nurse at the same hospital & said it is protocol) gave my dad ANYTHING (IV bag, oral meds, etc) they announced what he was given or what they were hanging for an IV. Also before they do anything to or for him they scan his wrist band & make him verify his birthdate. Not that that has anything to do with anything but I firmly believe the nurse announced whatever they put in Brooks veins, of course there was never an actual treatment so the phantom nurse in Vicki's head may not have been as professional.

In all fairness, none of us can stand my brother-in-law's wife but we have family photos together. So just because there are photos of Vicki & Brooks taken with her family doesn't negate the fact that most of them sans Billy didn't like Brooks or thought something was hinky with him. Sometimes we set our feelings aside & grin & bear it to get through family events. I have left some of my family shit with my tongue numb as hell from biting it so much LOL edited because I hate it when people don't use the proper there/their/they're so it is absolutely unacceptable for me to do so myself LOL

I was filling my sister in on the new developments wit the City of Hope statement & Brooks admission to faking the documents because although she watches the show, she is a full time nurse who doesn't have time to follow along with anything outside of being a viewer & she said after working 12 hours a day, day in & day out, & seeing actual people suffer, these 2 people just make me sick to stomach. I couldn't agree more & shame on Vicki for bringing that man onto our show

I got a parent horror story for you... my dad told me if my mom was smart & listened to him 40 years ago & had the abortion we would be having this argument right now! Unfortunately you can't pick your parents & while I don't think Vicki would win any mom of the year awards, I don't think she is one of the worst mothers out there. That being said I still think she is a crazy bitch who lies

Maybe they won't lock this forum if we can heed the 2 generous warnings we have already been given & stop beating the dead horse. Most of us think Brooks faked his cancer & the few that don't aren't going to be persuaded by any of us, I mean if the City of Hope saying he isn't a patient doesn't then nothing will. How about if we try to play nice :) Casseroles all around if we can!