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Yeah, looks like Monica is heading to loser lodge.

I wonder if Malcolm or Ozzy would ever do the show again. They've each done it 2-3 times, and Joe is on his second try. Joe seems to really just love the experience of being there, the challenges, the shelter, fire making...I think he'd be fine doing that even if there was no prize attached. I don't know if we will ever see another BvsW season that involves former Survivors and their loved ones, but that's a season I'd love to see Joe back for as well. Especially if he can't make the family visit this time around.

I still like Tasha. I don't believe Varner is bitter, although in Abi's case, he may have realized she didn't have a choice in voting him out. I also think that there was a genuine dislike between Varner and Tasha/Savage so that may have clouded them. They all wound up on a losing tribe (for Ta'Keo even more losing than their previous tribe) that was completely dysfunctional. I don't know how horrible Tasha was out there since they aren't showing it, but it is always amusing to see Survivor's hold grudges over the game. Petty, but amusing. Varner would have been better off keeping his mouth shut at that challenge in the first place. I think he dug his own grave, but at the same time, got unlucky with the swap. It would have been interesting getting Savage/Tasha/Varner together at the merge and seen what unfolded. I can see, though, that if what Varner is saying is true, Tasha may have little chance of winning unless she can back it up with strategic gameplay. I didn't like Kass or Trish during Cagayan, so I don't really care what they had to think, and I can see why they wouldn't like her.

God I wish Ta'Keo would lose. That tribe bores me, and there's far fewer people on there I'd care about losing than on the other tribes. If Kimmi is calling Monica a snake, obviously there's the crack in Bayon. I didn't think the 4 of them would vote together. Perhaps Spencer ratted her out if she planned on flipping. Monica looks way too happy in some of those press photos. In regards to the boot list, the poster who posted it did say that the merge order may not entirely correct. I was more surprised Joe made it that far unless he went on an immunity run.

It wasn't the same not having Woo look completely dumbfounded tonight at TC. I'm not really a fan of the guy, but I did feel sorry for him. I honestly didn't think he was going to make it. When the second vote came up for Jeff, I thought either it was a split for the idol, or someone else was going to be out of the loop. TC tonight proved to me why Woo really isn't good at the social aspect of this game. Varner had a much better argument as to why he needed to stick around. If it wasn't for needing strength I doubt Woo would have survived (though I don't think that's the only reason Varner got booted). I wouldn't care if Woo did go next, only because he doesn't do much for me.

Could something exciting finally be happening next week? The episode is titled "A Snake in the Grass" which we know from the previews is a soundbite from Kimmi. We saw Monica in her third confessional of the season talking with Spencer, who has his sights set on getting Kelly out. Monica doesn't want to do that, and I wonder if they are turning this into a Monica vs Kimmi showdown. I don't know if Kimmi is talking about Kelly in that soundbite or not. In addition, I wonder if Varner mouthing Kimmi and Monica's names to Kelly will come up next episode, if Bayon is indeed headed to TC.

I think she's playing an even better game than they are showing or that Tasha may even be putting out there right now. While I am curious why they didn't kick Abi to the curb, it does make sense that they went after Varner (much weaker in challenges, more connections than Abi, much more likely to ditch Tasha/Savage the first chance he gets, probably more of a social threat than Abi). Plus, we know Tasha wanted Varner out last week. Why risk throwing Abi's name around, knowing Varner wouldn't vote against her, and that they may drag Woo back into their fold (who would be an idiot to do so). I believe Tasha has Abi's number and is using that to her advantage for now. Really hoping she's around for the long haul, because so far the game play is really lacking this season, and I think we are going to get something good out of Tasha.

While I think they might have done this regardless, I wonder if it is to avoid confusion with the other Kelley (especially since her last name also begins with a W).

It's possible he got a haircut before this was taken, especially if it did get long. I thought he looked thinner in the face and tanner. After tonight, is all the spoiler evidence that was given away in promos and photos now passed? We got crying Tasha this episode, which opened the door for Woo and Savage to get the boot. So all we've got now is weight loss and possible loved ones missing around the time of the family visit.

I went back and watched that IC. Probst usually gets on my nerves during his constant play by play, but he had some good one liners during this IC. Especially when he said that this challenge would kick your butt and then we see a montage of everyone tripping over pieces and running into each other.

I would like to know that as well. I can see Jeremy running for his tribe, but Terry and even Andrew was kind of surprising. I had thought that maybe whoever did the RC would have had to sit out the IC but that was obviously not the case. I also question how Joe easily got those pieces back to this tribe's mat during the IC, especially when Jeff made the point of saying Joe was moving them without even waiting to listen. Wonder if Probst let a little something slip there?

Was this Angkor tribe idea one of those "sounds great on paper, what could go wrong with it" or were they hoping maybe some of the stronger castaways that might be doing a little better without food (like Joe) wound up on there. I really don't get the logic of why making a tribe start completely over with everything after they had already been out there a few days was a good idea.

Another Monica confessional. And this one might actually go somewhere. Whether forming a girls alliance works for her or backfires is another story.

Do we know Kimmi was referring to Monica as being a snake in the grass? Looks like she got a little of Alicia's attitude rubbing off on her after all these years. I think seeing Monica tonight for the 3rd time this season and talking about keeping the girls strong likely means she's in for a blindside next week or coming up. Unless Angkor loses again and they are setting something up for down the line, or just needed to show the other tribes and picked that particular footage. I think it is possible Terry is pulled from the game and they still have a boot. I'm surprised they wouldn't have hyped it up in the promos more, but if they know that is out there, maybe they didn't want to make it obvious. I'm still somewhat taking that bootlist with a grain of salt. Jeff mentioned that the other Survivors all made it home before him and he was still stuck at the airport. Maybe that's how he got the photo with Kimmi and Joe. I wouldn't completely rule out Kimmi or Joe as being pre-merge boots. If Kimmi ruffles feathers that could come back to bite her. The weight loss could have came during her pre-jury trip wherever. Joe may be seen as too big of a threat and he may get the short end of the stick when the new tribe swap happens (since everyone may anticipate the merge coming).

So long Varner. Sad that it took all these years to finally bring him back. It likely was the right decision, because he was physically weak and I fully believe he would have ditched Savage and Tasha in a heartbeat. He's a more dangerous game player than Woo. Still, I wish it hadn't been him. He was a highlight for me during Outback, and my interest went down drastically when he was voted off there. I've enjoyed him the most this season so far. I wish he had at least made it to Ponderosa/the jury.

I thought it was interesting that Terry and Andrew were picked from their tribes to do the RC. Because at the cast reveal they were sitting together and Jeff made the comparison of how similar they were and that they might cancel each other out or that one would get selected and the other wouldn't. And here they were going head to head in that challenge tonight. That was either more brutal of a challenge than it looked, or these tribes are really feeling the drain already. Joe probably would have just sprinted on top of the water. I love my manbun, and kudos to him during that IC. I don't know if Kass was the best caller for that. But he is not doing himself any favors.

If I knew they didn't edit this ahead of time, I would have thought the editors were listening and that's why we got more footage of Bayon/Ta'Keo tonight. I'm anxious to just get to the merge, because it's been kind of dull and dragging so far. I hope another tribe loses next week so we get something different. I think Ta'Keo and Bayon let Angkor win the RC. Whatever the case, I'm glad Angkor got one. They needed that, and I was hoping it would spill over into the IC. Abi needs to relax. She can't be offended at getting votes or having people in her alliance talking to the very people who voted for her. Sometimes it is damage control to try and make those people feel safe so they don't go wandering. I think she should have gone tonight. So incredibly sad it was Jeff. Did not want his second chance to end this way. I would have bet money it was going to be Woo. Varner provided a much more convincing argument as to why he needed to stay. I don't know if Woo will stay loyal to Tasha and Savage but he's really worthless in this game, so he'll be somebody's anchor in an alliance until he isn't needed anymore. I'd like to know if Abi really has that much power in the vote. So Ta'Keo won the IC again (and the co-winner in the RC). Meh. Another Escemeca with more ladies. So boring. I thought that maybe since we were getting more tribe dynamics that maybe one of the other tribes would actually lose. Too much to wish for I guess. I knew when I saw it was a puzzle that Angkor was losing. Was really hoping we'd get something different. I do think they are setting up a Bayon loss down the road with what we saw, and maybe setting something up with Kass. Monica got another confessional, and I have a feeling she's getting blindsided.

We got the Tasha crying shot from the intro-pretty much anyone from Angkor is vulnerable tonight.

I saw kind of an interesting theory about Varner mouthing Kimmi and Monica's names to Kelly. It was a theory that Jeff isn't as tightly aligned with Kimmi and he may have been signaling that Monica and Kimmi were aligned and needed to be split up-as sort of payback for Kimmi ratting out Jeff's one line vote during Iutback that helped cause his elimination. I don't think that was the case here, but kind of something to throw out there and maybe another possible duo battling it out in the "heated" TC.

I never get the invisible edit in a season like this, either. Maybe down the road Monica will make some big splash and get airtime, and that's what they are waiting for. However, I still think of seasons where people made it extremely far in the game, yet still got little to no airtime, even in their boot episode. Max and Jenn are doing the Survivor Power Rankings this season, and Max keeps saying they need to let Monica speak. Yet when we've heard her speak, it's been something simple and minor, like she hopes she doesn't get voted out for being one of the smallest on her tribe. Even in the bonus clips she hasn't had anything of interest to really say. This is the problem with AS seasons, is that sometimes a person who has one persona the first season completely changes the second time around. Or, they may try to duplicate the persona again, but are up against people that can do it better than them, as well as bigger favorites that came after them that is stealing the limelight. Look at Stephen for example. He's been a mess in the editing so far.

Thanks anthony! If Varner is the next boot, I'm still taking that boot list with a grain of salt. It was known early on, thanks to the slip in the promos, that Jeff was going to be on the new swapped tribe. So it may have just been a good guess that Jeff would be one of the more vulnerable ones. And, as you pointed out, Terry going in 6th place wouldn't work if he left on day 13. Of course, if they have a double boot next episode where Terry withdraws and someone else gets voted off, maybe they had them mixed up. On Angkor, I think it is between Jeff and Abi-unless this is the episode where Tasha is crying like we saw in the intro shot, then it could be anyway. Bayon, I'm saying Kelly Wigles, Monica, or Stephen. Ta'Keo, if it is true Terry was pulled from the game and didn't get voted off, and I'd have to think Kelley Wentworth is safe, then I will go with Kass or Ciera. Very big long shot it could be a Joe blindside. But I'll stick with one of the other girls.

Kass mentioned, I think after the first episode, that Ta'Keo had more of the colorful personalities than Bayon, especially the women. It would be interesting how they would show it if Bayon had to go to TC before the swap. So far the women are pretty much being ignored, except for those already voted off or who have had some significant impact (for better or worse) on the game (Kelley with her idol, Tasha, Abi). In the case of Mike, since TPTB knew that he would be going to the final 3 and winning, his edit made perfect sense. They could afford to paint him as a total obnoxious tool early on since they knew he'd be getting a big redemption edit down the road (and with what they had planned to show of Rodney, Dan, and Mike, it wasn't going to be hard to make Mike look good, especially with Shirin and the 3 invisibles floating around). Carolyn was interesting, she got a big edit early on, then disappeared, and I know it was because she wasn't in any real danger of leaving until the episode of Dan's blindside-but she still seemed like one of those personalities you'd be hearing from. Similarly with Sierra, she was probably the most forgettable of last season, and the only things I remember about her were a couple of TH where she talked big about turning on her blues, and then blowing her chances of staying in the game at the final 5. I don't know if there's too much to show, or they want to focus more on the tribe that will be going to TC so we can see the dynamics/strategy of leading up to the vote, or they think viewers have short attention spans. I can see why they'd focus on Kelley throwing Terry under the bus (I wouldn't be surprised if we get something from Terry this episode about Kelley, even if it goes nowhere). They may figure they need to show something going on over there. I'm also not ruling out Terry being voted out. Didn't the person who spoiled Terry leaving the game initially spoil his pre-game alliances as well? Or did something that might have ruined his chance of being asked back? I thought I read that, but maybe I have it wrong.

Given the episode description I think it will be between Bayon and Angkor. I wondered if the reason Terry decided to run in the challenge over Joe was to prove his worth. He may assume that if Ta'Keo loses the IC, it will be between him and Kelley going home. If he were to win that challenge for his tribe, he could try and persuade the strength argument (of course if he crashed and burned then Kelley would have ammo). She's already planted the seed of Terry having the idol, and I'm sure Terry is doing dirty work, too. RE: Varner. He's in an interesting position. Based on what spoilers we have, he seems like an obvious target, but so do other members of his tribe (especially if we see crying Tasha tomorrow-and if Angkor blows a huge lead and loses the IC, we might get that). That would put pretty much everyone on that tribe as a possibility, although Tasha will no doubt survive. But it sure seems like nobody liked Jeff on Angkor. If Tasha/Savage convince Woo to vote Varner, they may say to heck with what Abi Maria might want if she wanted to vote Woo off. Going with 2 people from a former opposing tribe is probably better odds than sticking with your own former tribemates that blindsided you twice in a vote and leave you completely in the dark. However, it is Woo. Who knows what he would do. Any spoiler indicating Jeff went to a certain point has now passed. While I still like to think there has to be more than what we've seen to cause his issues with Tasha, I guess I can get it if this is it. He may have heard things through the grapevine after being voted off about her and her game that further fueled the hate. I can also see Varner possibly trolling people if he knew there was a boot list out there saying he was the next to go. I don't believe there's anything out there about Abi lasting beyond this weeks vote, and if we see Tasha crying, that would mean Andrew and Woo could be on the chopping block, too. I posted this earlier, but Jeff being the only male caller in the challenge might be an advantage for Angkor. Of course Kimmi's voice is loud and distinct but having to listen for the only male voice might be a benefit for them. And I no sooner thought that of Kimmi when I was watching that clip and Kelly Wigles told her to be louder. This might be a close one. I don't know if D&D would purposely put spoiler info on their podcast banner, but I have to say, those would be my pick for the 4 most vulnerable at Bayon. I do think Spencer will survive the vote, but it may come down to him and whoever is getting voted off. Maybe that's why he and Monica are snuggly, he's trying to get her to vote with him. In doing my re-watches of earlier seasons, and reading this comment, it made me think how different Survivor is now compared to then. It was way more equal opporunity for face time, and you usually couldn't figure out who was losing the challenge that night or who was really going to get blindsided because they didn't focus on a select few. But that is a good point.

http://www.people.com/article/survivor-cambodia-second-chance-stephen-fishbach-blog-peih-gee-law-voted-out Here you go ProfCrash! I like that analysis Jextella. With everyone obligated to keep saying "this is my second chance" and Probst talking about learning from past and not having destiny repeat itself, I think Andrew may also find himself just missing out on the merge. Either that or he's going to overcome being screwed by the Outcast twist and make the jury this time. That second tribe swap may be his undoing, however. Varner is an interesting character. I think it could go either way for him. He's been such a big presence and narrator this season, that it would surprise me if he was in fact a pre-merge boot. Probst said he's getting all the talk "for now", which makes sense since he's one of the few that's gotten screen time. But I wonder if the "for now" means that Jeff won't be around much longer. However, we've seen Jeff take a bit of a fall from calling the shots and making mischief to a careless mistake at the IC that could have led to his ouster. And his new tribe is particularly fond of him. With PG gone, Abi may set her sights on Jeff. However, given what Abi said to Woo, Varner may have Woo as a shield for an upcoming vote.

That's why I'm wondering if it is very obvious this week (Angkor heading to tribal, another Abi vs whoever showdown) and they don't want to give anything minor detail away that may spoil it. I do think it is interesting we got a few shots of the Bayon tribe at their camp, but everything else has been Angkor and the RC. No Ta'Keo anywhere. Or it is something involving Jeremy and his idol being found out (or speculated that he has it), and they don't want to make it seem like Bayon may be heading to TC. If Angkor goes to TC, we know Tasha and Woo are safe because of the crying Tasha in the intro (unless that happens this ep). Beyond that I think it could be anybody, though I think the "heated" is going to somehow involve Abi. Whether she's the one trying to save herself or starts the argument between the two.