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I just spotted one of the obvious mannequins at a wedding, less than 20 minutes in. It's still early yet, though. There are more to be found!

Oh, that's awesome! Hallmark just recently said it was coming up in 2021, so it sounds like it was a sudden change (a change for the better). So if Picture Perfect Mysteries #3 airs on 10/11, according to the Hallmark website, then there will at least be 2 new mysteries in October. The only other movie they could possibly squeeze into October would be the Martha's Vineyard movie filming right now, but that might be a stretch. However, based on how they removed a new Crossword Mysteries movie from the lineup in October at the last second in 2019, I don't trust them to keep PPM#3 and AT#14 in October. I will keep hope alive! lol

Those are the only 3 Hallmark movies Hilarie has done, sadly, but she has done a few Lifetime Christmas movies and is supposed to do another one this year. It would have been interesting to see Hilarie in the role that eventually went to Melissa Claire Egan in "Holiday for Heroes." I don't know if Marc Blucas was already set to be the leading man at the time Hilarie was planning to do the movie last year, or if he was cast later, after Hilarie was no longer involved -- but Marc and Hilarie might have made a nice pair. I liked "Naughty or Nice" because it was more about 'Christmas magic going awry' than anything else. While I do like the standard rom com formula -- especially against a holiday backdrop -- I like an occasional story of a mischievous Santa, elf or angel casting a 'spell' (for lack of a better word0 and setting off a chain of crazy antics. There are not too many of those stories left, on any network -- at least not stories that are allowed to be funny.

I'm not just talking about changes related to diversity. I mean any changes -- like subtle changes to a line in a scene, or the placement of a potted plant or whatever. A lot of people try to make changes to scripts, and their changes are nixed. Hilarie was not established enough with the network to think that she could make those changes anyway -- whether it had anything to do with diversity or not. Someone like Lacey, Candace, or one of the actual regulars would have been likely to have more leeway in suggesting a change because they have put in a lot of time and have been loyal to the network, but even then it wouldn't have been guaranteed that their requests would be granted.

Hilarie has only done 3 Hallmark movies, and the last one she did was 4 years ago, so there was probably no reason to mention it now. She is more associated with her Lifetime Christmas movie work at this point than anything she did for Hallmark (although I happened to love the 3 movies she did). Not a couple of years ago. It was just last year! lol She had already done a Lifetime Christmas movie in 2018, as well as a couple of them several years ago, but maybe she hadn't firmly decided to stick with Lifetime going forward until last year. Hilarie was going to do a movie for Hallmark, closer to where she lived. She really wanted to do this specific movie. She didn't name the title, but, from what little info she gave, it sounded very much like it was "Holiday for Heroes" -- the one that ultimately ended up starring Melissa Clare Egan and Marc Blucas -- and that one filmed in Connecticut, so it would have been closer to where she lives than her usual movies. She also mentioned that the movie has a military theme. It sounds as though Hilarie was already planning to/had been chosen to do the movie, but I don't know how far it got in terms of contracts and the legal aspect of it. She started making requests as she was going over the script -- and one request was, if I recall correctly, to have a mixed race couple in the movie (probably LGBTQ characters as well, but the one I remember her mentioning was the interracial couple). Hilarie said her cast changes/requests were denied -- she said the bigotry "comes from the top" at Hallmark, but she did not name names. So in one or two comments she made it sound as though she was fired or let go from the project after she protested about it. In another comment she made somewhere or another, it sounded more like they asked her if she was going to do the project or not, and she said no. Either way -- whether she declined to continue on with it, or whether she was fired/let go, she was no longer doing the movie. It's important to note, though, that not every actor or actress can just randomly make changes to a cast or script because they feel like it. Hilarie's intentions were good and she meant well doing it, but there are a lot of changes that the writers and others would like to make to scripts and it doesn't happen. If Hilarie were more regular with Hallmark -- like a Lacey Chabert, Andrew Walker or Candace Cameron Bure, for example -- she probably would have been given more leeway to make those requests and changes. But she had only done 3 Hallmark movies prior to 2019, and her most recent one was in 2016. I don't think she had developed enough of a working relationship and line of communication with the network over the years to suddenly be making changes to a script when a lot of other people have tried to make changes and were not allowed. Now, as I mentioned above, Hilarie was already doing movies for Lifetime before 2019. She usually only does one movie per year (or less often), so last year probably would have been Hallmark's year and not Lifetime if her casting requests has been granted. But after the incident with Hallmark, she firmly established that she loves working for Lifetime and she is happy to work with them, etc. Hilarie admitted that -- because of her husband's busy career -- she is fortunate enough to be able to lose out on certain jobs, or not take every job she is offered. She can pick and choose which ones she wants to do -- or do none at all. She said she knows that a lot of her friends are not as lucky, and they have to take jobs they might not want to do, or take jobs with casting they don't agree with, etc. So Hilarie can afford to speak out and call out bigotry at Hallmark because, at the end of the day, she doesn't need them. Her peers in the industry might actually need them, and need the steady work if they become Hallmark regulars. I like Hilarie -- I enjoyed all 3 of her Hallmark movies, and I like her with Jeffrey Dean Morgan. I like that she has been making masks and sending them out this year. She seems to have a good heart. I like that she is involved in the candy/sweet shop they own with Paul Rudd. It's unfortunate that she was so unhappy with Hallmark last year that she doesn't want anything to do with them (despite her friends such as Bethany Joy Lenz, Chad Michael Murray, etc., working for them) -- because, to be very honest, I actually liked all 3 of Hilarie's Hallmark movies better than any of the movies she has done for Lifetime. I loved her with both Paul Campbell and Victor Webster, and I would have been curious to see who else she was paired up with if she had stayed with Hallmark. HIlarie said she will only do movies with friends now -- which is why her Lifetime movies are always "One Tree Hill' reunions. So she might not have been able to stay with Hallmark anyway, if they nixed having a OTH reunion in every movie. But I hope that one day she will come back to the network (now that there is a new CEO) and do something for them. (Her friend Bethany is making a Hallmark Christmas movie this year, though, and I like her too!) Right now, however, Hilarie is in the Lifetime family, and she is happy there.

There is a holiday movie supposedly being filmed for the ION network right now (in Colorado), with a working title of "Right Plan, Wrong Man." I highly doubt they will keep that title, so -- without knowing anything about the plot -- I am trying to guess what the final title might end up being. "Wrong Man for Christmas"? lol Also... Ryan McPartlin and Vanessa Lachey are returning to Lifetime this year for Christmas, but this is their first movie together. I guess they're filming in L.A.

Ahhh... Okay, that makes sense. I forgot that was today, but I thought there had to be some sort of comp that I was unaware of. Thank you!

I think I missed it if it was brought up, but do we know why the feeds have been down for hours today? If today is a nomination ceremony, would the feeds be down this long for just that? Or are they doing some other sort of competition? It's pretty hot today, so I wondered if maybe Production wanted them to do a comp of some sort before the heat really kicked in. Or is there a party of some sort?

I wish Deborah were returning as a director too. Her episodes included great action scenes, but also tapped into a more emotional side of the series, between Mando making the choice to save the Child from the Client despite the trouble it would bring to his life, and then Kuiil in Chapter 7. I would bet that if Deborah had known in advance that the Kenobi series she is supposed to direct would be downsized and delayed repeatedly, along with the script being rewritten, she would have signed on to direct at least one Mando episode in Season 2 since nothing was happening with Kenobi yet. A lot of things I posted over in the Media thread -- that might be why you didn't see the Mayfeld detail. Because there were actual articles put out that mentioned him, as well as other appearances, it was hard for anyone to avoid them because those articles were on social media. So once those articles were on social media, I just posted them in the Media thread. I was even keeping a running list of all the confirmed and rumored cast, guest stars, directors, etc. -- because the info seemed to be coming out regularly for a while.... and then it stopped. lol It would have been hard for anyone to avoid it once it was circulating on Twitter and Instagram and on YouTube channels. So the Mayfeld info is in the Media thread somewhere, along with Ming-Na Wen, Sasha Banks, Timothy Olyphant, Katee Sackhoff, Michael Biehn, Jamie Lee Curtis, Sam Hargrave, etc. BUT... and take this for what it's worth... I should mention that one particular source of supposed spoilers -- who has since vanished and I'm not sure if what I was told by them is accurate -- told me that several of the rumored guest stars are not on the show in Season 2. Mayfeld/Bill Burr was one of the ones that I was told is supposedly not returning in Season 2. Then again, I was also told that Bryce Dallas Howard was not coming back to direct in Season 2, and yet... she confirmed that she is back as a director. I was told that, out of all the rumored guest stars in Season 2, the confirmed ones who are definitely appearing are Michael Biehn, Jamie Lee Curtis, Rosario Dawson and Temuera Morrison. (That is odd, because Jamie Lee Curtis was the one who was the least likely to be in this season.) There is a question as to whether or not Ming-Na Wen is back in Season 2 because she supposedly did not show up to film any new scenes, BUT she filmed several extra scenes when she was working on Season 1, and some of those extra scenes that were not used might be used in Season 2. Again, I'm not sure if any of that's true at all -- it's just what I was told. At this point, we have not established a reliable, consistent spoiler source yet since the show has not been in existence long enough for us to see if any of the spoilers turn out to be accurate! I asked about Katee Sackhoff and was told she is not in Season 2 -- BUT Katee avoids answering whenever anyone asks her if she is in Season 2, so I tend to think that she was involved in some way (maybe even just lending her voice somehow), OR that she might be involved in Season 3. She could have met with Favreau and Filoni about appearing in Season 3, perhaps. I just tend to think that, based on how she avoids answering when asked about it, she will pop up on the show at some point. Maybe not in Season 2, but sooner or later. This has not been rumored at all, but just as a pure guess, I would not be shocked if there are a couple of surprise cameo appearances in Season 2 -- maybe more comedians in disguise as there were in Season 1; maybe Mark Hamill lending his voice to the droid on Tatooine again... or maybe someone unexpected. For example, Robert Rodriguez has worked with certain actors a lot in his movies, and I would not at all be shocked if he recruited a couple of his famous friends and actors from his movies to make cameo appearances in the episode that he directed in Season 2. That means we could, hypothetically, see a random surprise appearance by Danny Trejo, or Salma Hayek, or someone from Robert's stable of talent.

That was a boring, drawn out HOH competition on tonight's show. Thank goodness it seems the feeds are already back on!

For those of you who are Cindy Busby fans (though I know some of you don't like her too much!), I just noticed that Hallmark has acquired another 2 movies (all of these acquisitions are happening because they were unable to film any of their own movies for several months)...... and one of the new acquisitions stars Cindy Busby! I had my eye on these movies last year, when they were in production, but I pictured them as being more 'straight to Hallmark Movies Now streaming app' sorts of projects than actual Hallmark Channel premieres, simply because I think they may have slightly lower budgets. Love at Daisy Hills is currently scheduled for Saturday, September 19th -- and it stars Cindy Busby and Marshall Williams (Marshall was in the snow maze movie, Amazing Winter Romance, and he is in When Hope Calls). Love at Look Lodge stars Clark Backo and Jonathan Keltz, and it is scheduled for ,Saturday, September 26th. Another mystery is scheduled for October, and I posted about that over in the Hallmark Mystery thread. Of course, all scheduled showtimes can change at any moment, up until the last minute. In Cindy's defense, she seems to be a delightful, lovely person. In any interview I have seen her do, she was always very charming and likable, including the most recent Deck the Hallmark interview she did. She is a good sport as well, and has a good sense of humor about it all. I think it's just funny that this has turned out to be the year of Cindy as far as acquired movies go -- she also filmed one in Australia that I am expecting Hallmark to pick up too.

The 3rd Martha's Vineyard Mysteries movie is now in production (though it seems that it won't air until 2021). So between that one and the 14th Aurora Teagarden movie that just wrapped up, Hallmark will have at least a couple of new mysteries to start 2021 with. Meanwhile, Picture Perfect Mysteries: Exit Stage Death is tentatively scheduled to premiere on Sunday, October 11th. Needless to say, that date can change at the drop of a hat, but it's there right now (according to Hallmark's website)!

I couldn't figure out why Nicole F. was crying, but it doesn't shock me that Dani is now going to fixate on Janelle and Christmas (even if they are not really aligned). I don't think Dani really likes either one of them that much, so she is going to find every reason to complain about either or both of them from this point forward. I think Christmas can tell that Dani is not really receptive to her, and Janelle probably doesn't care if Dani is receptive to her or not. To Janelle, Nicole F. is exhausting, and I'd bet that Dani exhausts her at times too. lol

That's what I'm thinking. I am not expecting it to take up a lot of time in the movie when there are 3 other weddings and the main couple's story at the center of it.

Wedding Every Weekend is the only one of the 3 new Summer Nights movies that was made specifically by and for Hallmark right from the start (although I think that Love on Harbor Island was made with the expectation that Hallmark would take it, though it wasn't 100% certain early on). As soon as WEW started filming, Paul Campbell announced that it was a Hallmark movie, and then certain photos he and Kimberley posted on Instagram from the set -- not in their Stories, but just regular pictures -- were taken down or hidden from view not long after. Likewise, a photo from a different Hallmark movie that filmed -- Beverly Hills Wedding -- was taken down around the same time. And Erin Cahill recently tweeted that she is quarantined in Vancouver before filming a Hallmark Christmas movie, and, sure enough, her tweet was taken down! lol So Hallmark -- and the people working with Hallmark -- is being super-secretive this year. Speaking of secrecy... I saw someone's comment next to one of director Ron Oliver's Instagram posts, asking something along the lines of "When are you going to tell us who Ryan Paevey's co-star will be in your new Christmas movie?" She probably meant no harm by it, but it just came off as impatient and pushy to me because she wanted to know "when." I mean, why does that person NEED to know who the co-star is right now, before the movie has started filming? Calm down, random Instagram person. They'll let you know who is in it when they are allowed to. It's not like you're going to miss seeing the movie if you don't know who is starring in it right this second. Ron Oliver replied with "When my network says I can!"

I am not a huge Dani fan, but I am so glad she was giving Cody hell about his casual attitude about COVID-19. And he has the nerve to say that he knows multiple people who have caught the virus, and yet he is still alarmingly unconcerned. It is a miracle he got in the house and didn't test positive. Please, HGs, someone kick his dumb ass out of the house as soon as he is no longer in power.

Memphis -- still clad in his Frozen Tundra blanket -- was just complaining to someone (I think it might have been Kaysar, but I only heard his voice) about how cold it is in the house. Memphis said: "If I wanted to be tortured, I'd move to Canada." And the feeds instantly cut to stars.

Kaysar is going for the Twix again!

And now Nicole F. and Day are discussing their alliance, and Nicole seems to want Day to work on Janelle for her too (just as she wants Christmas to work on Janelle). Isn't Nicole F. the one that Janelle said was exhausting? Nicole F. says there is no reason why she and Janelle should be on opposite sides. Day is asking if Cody would work with Nicole F., and Nicole is playing dumb and pretending she has not talked about it with him.

Day thinks that as they get into Fall and then into October, there will be some Halloween-themed things to do. Both Day and Bay are not into any of that. They don't like Ouija boards, witchcraft, broomsticks and that sort of thing. Certain HGs are trying to save a cricket or grasshopper that lost a leg.

Now it's at the stage of the game where everyone is branching out into different alliances and creating smaller sub-alliances -- and in any season, I can never tell which ones are actually legitimate alliances, and which people are going to betray each other at the drop of a hat. For example, Christmas is trying to solidify an alliance with Nicole F. I think that Nicole F. would have been open to partnering up with her at the beginning, but now she is too tied to Dani and Dani doesn't trust Christmas. Christmas says they should make side alliances too and bring other people in. She said she needs Nicole F. to work on Dani, and Nicole F. wants Christmas to work on Janelle. But I think that Nicole F. will betray Christmas in a heartbeat. Meanwhile, Enzo is in a sub-group with Bay and Day, and he's not sure if Janelle should be brought in or not. He doesn't want Kaysar in the sub-group. And Kevin is trying to connect with whoever he can.

Nicole A. has been told to eat pickles and drink pickle juice. Cody didn't want to stick his arm in the sink -- is the sink clogged up already? Or was there a stopper in it that needed to be pulled out? David put his arm in it, I think.

I'm not sure that's the choice I'd make if I were in Kevin's shoes (assuming he survives the eviction), but you do you, Kevin!

And also, at this particular point in time in the world, it could be cause for alarm if a few people in the same house suddenly started getting sick like Kevin, Ian and Nicole have. While I assume it is strictly the slop's fault, you can't be too careful. Who knows if they might have handled some items brought to them from the grocery store that were tainted with traces of COVID-19, and are now showing signs via intestinal distress.... If nothing else, they need to stay healthy and keep their immune systems strong for when they get out of the house and have to go back into the real world. I would do away with the slop and all of that this season.

The Foot was mentioned again. Christmas brought up the 3-year old injury when talking about whether or not she'd want to do The Amazing Race or Survivor. And she is now talking about The Foot again, in a different context.