JudyObscure

My knowledge of the English class system comes primarily from Norah Lofts novels with a little Catherine Cookson thrown in 😉and according to them Llywela is spot on. According to Norah the farming class had very strict morals and the Upper Class, while not as moral, had very strict codes of "how things are done" but in the small, no man's land of middle class professionals there was a much broader code. Our Siegfried is a law unto himself. Well Peaches that's probably because all the ladies looked like Vivien Leigh.

Yup. My parents were both born in 1915, they met in 1935, dated for several years, during which time she lived with her parents on their farm and he had his own business in town, where they could have gone at night if they had wanted to. They were both virgins when they got married. She told me once, she felt sure all her friends were, too. I think it's hard for people today to understand just what a taboo premarital sex used to be. Even if passionately in love they only let themselves go so far, the woman held back so that he wouldn't lose his respect for her and the man didn't push very hard because gentlemen simply didn't do that. They were both very aware of the disgrace for themselves and their families if she got pregnant before the wedding. Consequently, even though birth control didn't exist as we know it, only 3% of births were to unmarried mothers where now it's over 40%.

I keep thinking about her. Dateline didn't do her any favors showing her picture, giving her name, and Keith sounding skeptical about her. I did hear a psychiatrist on a news show saying that some people go into a shock like state of fear that can last for hours. To me that sounds unlikely. It doesn't take much courage, if you have your phone, to call or text the police that a housemate seemed to be in trouble and a masked stranger was spotted. I once heard a psychologist say that when children are under stress, like from witnessing their parents have a terrible fight, they go to sleep. It's an avoidance response. Could this girl have just gone to sleep for 8 hours? I'm afraid she's going to be hated online and on campus.

As soon as I saw her name, "Ana," I wondered if she was a mail order bride. I'm always suspicious of men who prefer to have a wife who doesn't know her way around America or speak the language very well. I've heard men say they preferred women from (Russian, Korea, wherever) because they were more submissive and dependent. Not that they always are, but the men think they will be. It makes me wonder what they want to get away with in a marriage where the wife may not be aware of all her legal options and not have her family close for support.

I loved hearing them speak the wedding vows without prompting and with so much emotion. James, particularly, seemed so much in love and they both were glowing. One of the best TV weddings I've seen.

Are we even sure that flouncy sheer mini thing was a dress? I actually gasped when they first showed her walking down the road next to two people in black funeral garb while wearing that scrap of gauze. The soft cloth buttons, the ruffled hem, the sash belt -- all said shorty nighty to me. Andrea set a new record for herself with that one.

True, but medicated mouthwash usually means gum disease which left untreated can mean losing all your teeth. In any case he was stealing her stuff. Woo does sound like a weasel. I don't mind Cass letting that story out, but I do mind her bossy directive to us to, "Put it to bed." Zero chance of me ever liking her.

It took them long enough to find and track down the Idaho murderer to make a good show, plus they have lots of pictures of the beautiful victims so I expect we will get a show after the trial. I was expecting the motive to be rejection from one of the girls, but now it looks like it might just be acting out a fantasy for the warped mind of the killer.

That's how it is for me, the music, the voice, the opening scenes with the children playing and the gigantic ship behind them that I didn't spot for the first four seasons... puts me in the zone.

America was saved from countless cases of thalidomide birth defects by a courageous woman, Dr Oldham Kelsey: I'm surprised we don't hear more about her. Thanks to her courage against pressure from big-pharm the only American cases were from military wives stationed overseas and women who had traveled at that time.

I agree, particularly in a show that often makes the fathers seem distant from their families. His pain over watching his beautiful little girl suffer was well demonstrated. Maybe it was because I didn't watch this on Christmas and waited until all the distractions were over, but I loved the episode and cried through the whole darn thing. The young pregnant woman getting out of prison and going back into the world with no home, no family and no job, was something horrifying to me. Seeing the "three wise women" come to her aid made me appreciate my favorites all over again, but Reggie's instant concern for her was the very best. I hope they keep their relationship in the show.

I've never understood the "I was always on the right side of the vote!" as a big bragging point at FTC. To me it just says you were comfy in a majority alliance and no one feared you enough to organize a blind side. I'm more impressed with the scrambling an outsider like Owen has to do. I may be wrong here, but I believe floaters became a bad word through Big Brother players like Rachel Riley screeching about hating floaters, while they themselves were safe in a good sized alliance and upset that, due to the floaters, they didn't have an entirely worry-free ride to the end. That made me start rooting for floaters.

QQQQ, I watch it on my computer at the CBS show site. If it's a 2 hour episode it starts to skip a little bit in the last half hour or so, but it does make it till the end. I do like to be able to pause and take a longer look at some things. I'm endlessly nosey about people's houses. Angel and Mr. Evil had painted all the rooms in deep colors and failed to do the trim properly. The kitchen was the expected mess. The bed lacked sheets. The TV was in a shelving unit with hundreds of DVDs - they're so easy to steal. I imagine their home life was; get fast food, get high, watch TV. But don't most of those shows and movies have at least some sort of lesson or message that would teach right from wrong? Something that would teach empathy for young victims? How do people end up so heartless? How do they find each other? Most of all how on earth did Angel become a nurse?

This case was not new. I kept waiting for there to be an update, but there wasn't. There is NO WAY that I buy that Melissa didn't mastermind the whole thing. This case also reminded me of a notorious case around here (that I'm actually surprised hasn't ended up on Dateline yet. A very rural part of the state. Also a custody battle I know! I've been following the trials closely on YouTube and I'm just hoping some true crime writer is working on the book, Dateline working on a two hour episode, someone else working on a Dallas-style miniseries, and Lifetime making an "I Married a Murderer" movie about the unfortunate, innocent, Mennonite, Beth, who married Jake Wagner in Alaska, not knowing he was the prime suspect for eight murders. I knew she was a nasty piece of work the minute she told the police, "I don't want to point fingers, but my ex was violent and hated his mother."

This episode had some of the worst police work we've seen. I hated that detective repeating that he was always working for the victim. does he think this poor woman wanted him to berate her son for 11 hours? I thought Justin seemed very babyish, but many of us might act that way if we had just pulled our "Mommy," out of a bath tub of blood. The detectives were also dense about Deyonte. They kept thinking he couldn't have done it because his history was all just burglary. As if someone who breaks the law in one area might not break it in another? Deyonte seemed to have a history of getting away with little or no punishment and having all his friends act like he was a great guy, as if burglary is no big deal at all. This may have been the first time he got caught and he was willing to take a life in a horrible way just to save his own skin.

I think Charles married a 20 year-old woman because (a) she happened to be the one he was dating when the pressure to marry was at a peak and (2) because he knew he had to marry a virgin and there weren't that many 20-something young women in his set who were. When Diana was even younger, she told one of her friends that she had to remain a virgin because she planned to marry Prince Edward. She thought Charles would be taken by the time she was grown. I don't think Charles ever seemed the controlling, macho type. His relationship with Camilla always seemed like equals with shared interests of horses and silly jokes. Diana was the same age I was when I married, it was the average age during the 50's and early 60's. Queen Elizabeth herself was only 21. I don't think it was her age that was the problem so much as her immaturity; refusing to take the advice of her supporters in the palace, throwing herself down stairs while pregnant, pushing her step-mother down a flight, daily hissy fits and firing over 40 servants, having affairs with athletes and playboy types (even before Charles went back to Camilla.) If she had told the truth during that famous self-pitying interview she would have said their are a dozen people in our marriage and included her own lovers. Yes, she was only 20 when she got married and she still acted that age right up until the night she and her boyfriend were laughing and encouraging their driver to speed through a tunnel on wet streets so they could out run the paparazzi, when all a mature mother of two would have done is turn out the interior lights of the limo and put on her seat belt.

I'll never look at my pharmacist the same. I have no idea what he does in his off hours, but thinking it might be drunken orgies with strippers makes me want to make sure he washes his hands before touching my drugs. Cindy's sister was so shrilly defensive you knew right away Cindy had to be in prison. The poor dumb thing thought Cindy had to be a wonderful person because she was a care giver and a foster mother, and that just makes me feel sad for all the poor people who were under her "care." Two things would have made me happy to see Cindy behind bars whether she killed Ken or not -- handing Ken's young son his stuff at the door and telling him not to come back, and not answering Ken's mother's pitiful phone pleas. Ken's mother was amazing. I would hope to be as smart and slender as she is someday, but I'm not now, so probably not. I hope beautiful Cindy realizes that she now looks older than her mother-in-law.

All he needed was a banjo to hold. When the friend talked about Maggie being so proud of their money and position I thought of the old saying, "When you marry for money you have to go to work every single day."

Look how often we start the show with someone saying they never expected a murder to happen in their neighborhood because the houses were fairly upscale and the lawns were tidy (never mind the squalor inside that people like Angel were living in.) Then there are always family and friends who say so-and-so would never ever commit murder because they know him and he's such a nice guy. Everyone seemed to love Milton simply because he was a local "business" man. I suppose there are people who think those who follow their own religion or other group are going to be more trustworthy, just like my neighbors who put political signs all over their front yard and assume the rest of us on this street are in agreement. I've heard Korean friends say they never divorce and Jewish friends say Jewish men are always faithful to their wives and there is some truth in their claims compared with other groups. I think it's probably natural to trust your own group that you see every week, whether it's your fellow masons or members of your poker group. I just feel like the show always likes to point out the Christians gone wrong when they never would dream of pointing out that the first suspect who argued in the antique store never went to church.

(back to Righteous Obsession) Are there people in the world who think being a Christian makes you a good person? Every single time someone I know finds out I'm a Christian they always tell me how shocked they are to find out I'm a complete nutwing who hates gay people and believes Santa Claus is real. Then they start sifting through every word I ever said and everything I ever did looking for the sure fire proof that I'm a hypocrite, (doesn't take long) because to some people saying you believe in Christ is the same thing as saying you're just like him. At first I actually had a tiny bit of sympathy for the youth "pastor" for hesitating to turn in someone who had thought he was speaking to him in priest/confessional sort of way,-- then I saw that farm. Christian, devil worshipper, or veggie eating yoga teacher -- keeping cows in those stalls is plain wicked. The farmers feed the front end and milk the back end and never ever let them move. When they have calves, the calf is immediately taken away and the mother has to listen to it cry for her for days. No wonder his wife seemed like she was on the edge of hysteria the whole time.

Right, and feminism doesn't require that we take on the worst attributes of men or that we believe occupations traditionally held by men are superior to those held by women. I think it's fine that she's a detective, but not that she's a perfect Mary Sue who never makes a mistake. Even Nellie Bly, ran her late husband's business into bankruptcy. The anachronisms that bother me are the ones of attitude. Would a woman of that age know what it was to be gay? Most of those women, at least in Scarlet's class, would barely know how married straight people acted until their wedding night. Wouldn't her maid have been very uncomfortable when asked to sit on her sofa and chat? Would a woman dressed like Scarlet be able to walk unaccompanied into the poor part of town without an Artful Dodger relieving her of her purse and hat? Wouldn't something worse happen if she went to a brothel? Would she have been able to live alone and have male visitors without some men getting the wrong idea?

For that matter why did Eliza tell the whole society-not-group the scandalous information about the one woman's son? Yes, they were snooty and rude, but Eliza was downright cruel and enjoying it. I'm only watching this because it's Sunday night on PBS and I watch what comes after, but, wow, the anachronisms, the contemporary attitudes in a woman of that period, the tedious cat and mouse of the romance, and Eliza's smug personality all grate on me. Sorry, I probably should wait until nine to turn on the TV.

I wish they had interviewed Stanley's pastor. How was it that Stanley went ostentatiously to church every Sunday, yet was so clueless about the basics? Most importantly, "Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord." Didn't he notice that it was God and not Lot who rained fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah. Lot was just told to hightail it out of there. Christians are supposed to refrain from judging others and let God take care of the justice part. Also Stanley, you are not and never will be an angel. Angels aren't humans who were good they are a completely different specie. Now the Huggins family, particularly the brother, Durand, were the best examples of real Christians I've ever seen. Durand was a good narrator, too. What a final episode.

Oh gosh I hate that LaRay so much! What a user.! First she's got mentally ill Lance wrapped around her finger because he's never had a mother or something, but she has to have Ron as second string servant, too. Ron was so fragile he could barely stand and she feels free to ask him to haul stuff up the stairs for her and drive her to her chemo all on her terms! (Lots of insurance pays for cabs to and from the hospital.) I have had lots of experience with women like her. My husband and I lived in a five story apartment building in D. C. for several years and all the single women in the building seemed to think my husband was there for their pleasure. He's tall, but he's not particularly strong. He has the long thin back of many tall men that's more prone to strains than the back of a shorter stockier man. The women in our building had no hesitation at all to flutter their lashes and asking him to carry stuff upstairs for them, or move their furniture, or buy them their cigarettes at the base commissary, or kill the mouse in their filthy apartment. Lot's of times they would ask me, "Could I borrow your husband for a few minutes?" Like that was so cute. I would grit my teeth and say, "You'd better ask him." The thing was I never once asked him to do those sort of things. If I bought a TV, or new mattress, I would pay the extra thirty dollars to have it delivered and set up. LaRay was one of those women times ten and then to sic that monster on Ron because she didn't get to smoke in his car? You know Lance would never have known Ron's movements if she wasn't telling him. She's as guilty of murder as anyone who hires a hitman. I can't stand it that she's out free somewhere, playing her pity card and using all her neighbors as servants.

Those passages are basically warning people not to be tempted into sin by the devil, like don't let some guy tell you it's okay to cheat on your husband because he wont know so it wont hurt him. I don't think it ever means we should look for the devil in someone before helping them, that would be judging them. No one stands at the door of the soup kitchen and checks the people for signs of sinfulness. There are at least 24 passages that say we should help the needy -- no questions asked. There's even a few about welcoming strangers into our homes, which I know I could never do. Those church women did nothing to be ashamed of. The shame is all on Jason for taking advantage of them. I had a friend for a while who was a pastor's wife. I watched sketchy people take advantage of her over and over, but she told me one time that her husband said it didn't matter whether the people she helped were deserving poor or con artists, it was the act of charity itself that was pleasing to God. Proverbs 19:17 "Those who are gracious to the poor lend to the Lord, and the Lord will fully repay them." She, and those church ladies who helped Jason, will be breezing through Heaven's gates while I'm left behind rolling my eyes at their gullibility. LOL