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o In the words of Ricky Ricardo, "We've developed a habit over the years. We like to eat" when he was asked why he had a job in show business. Watson favors Randy a bit with some Cole thrown in.

@lezlers As long as Tyler continues to lodge poison darts in the direction of Carly's parents while at the same time putting himself on a pedestal when he demands these visits with Carly and B&T should be on their knees forever thanking him for his royal sperm for the gift of a child from his Tierra-Reign bloodline, and also being blunt when he says Carly is HIS DAUGHTER, people will criticize him and call him out. They aren't always going to go about it in a way that is appropriate. I was adopted and I find Tyler's comments about B&T being only adoptive parents way more hurtful, offensive, classless, and brutal because he doesn't see them as true parents. Forget Tyler being shamed, what about B&T being shamed on cable television and Twitter over and over again? Many of us find that unacceptable because it is a slap in the face of adoptive parents and families. I don't doubt Simon and other viewers also see it that way. Many of us have been brutally honest with how we wish we could confront Tyler and rip him a new one. Classy or not, whatever. C&T have been using their platform (the show, social media) for years now to attack B&T. Moreso Tyler than Cate, but she has done her fair share of throwing comments directed at Carly's parents which served no other purpose than to hurt and shame them. Tyler was on the receiving end of Simon this time around and had a comment that only served to hit below the belt, as I made clear in my post and as @CaliforniaLove pointed out. Simon made a remark to Tyler re the adoption, big deal. I lost how many times B&T have been on the receiving end of Tyler's negative comments.

Aside from blind items, rumors, suspicions, do we know Tyler is cheating? I know many of us have speculated as such, but at this stage, there is nothing that indicates Tyler is cheating with this girl. At least, I hope he hasn't. If he has been cheating, shame on him. Perhaps Tyler and Cate have come to some sort of realization that the marriage is on its last legs. Perhaps Tyler put his foot down with Cate and gave her an ultimatum. Or maybe he told her he was not happy in the relationship. Either one of those might have been the reason she went rehab this last time. I don't like to see children suffer the consequences of broken relationships. I also do not like to see children endure toxic family environments. They are better off having parents who separate than to be surrounded by two people who are staying together for ulterior reasons. Tyler and Cate's relationship hasn't been a healthy one no matter how much they try to shove that down our throats. All their online proclamations of being this happy couple is laughable. We know Tyler didn't want to marry Cate. He put off that wedding more than once. With all that said, if these are going to continue with their drama on air, then I am going to watch.

No you are not the only one. Some, including myself, posted our positive feelings on how Catelynn handled that situation. What made it a questionable situation was how Tyler handled it. Nova sees that her parents don't see eye to eye on matters when it comes to her behavior. Just wait until she starts pitting one parent against the other. @Brooklynista I will be happy to wear my tin foil hat with you. I need a timeline regarding this so-called pregnancy of Cate's and the whole rehab vacation.

When Andrew said he sees a "T", I figured he meant trash aka Amber.

While lying in bed, I decided to check Andrew's Instagram. His post offers more clues as to how that painting came to be. Either he is bullshitting or he is just as creepy as we thought:

Smoke from Tyler and Catelynn's bongs.

Don't they usually film between October and December? I think this happened before during Teen Mom 2 where there would be Xmas scenes and Halloween scenes mixed together.

Bingo! Ryan asked how much it was worth because he is wondering if he can sell it or get some drugs in exchange. I wondered why Ryan would ask Mackenzie sometimes how much this and how much that. I was under the impression Ryan was paranoid and a controlling asshole. He didn't want Mackenzie burning through his drug money. Thanks Tatum for pointing out the obvious. I have been sick dealing with a bad cough. boo hoo.

If only this could be Leah's thread title.

Deb and Tyler should hook up.

If only she'd let Tyler go. I am not sure about Nova being delayed although it is a possibility. I will throw this out there. Nova seemed very frightened when Tyler yelled at her about the milk she spilled. I could hear Butch's voice and tone during that moment. Tyler has that hair-trigger temper when it comes to Nova and animals. I imagine Butch did a lot of yelling and screaming at Tyler when he committed a mistake. As much as Tyler tries to come across as a tender and loving guy, beneath that facade is a guy who can be cruel and intimidating. I did appreciate Catelynn lowering herself to Nova's eye level and comforting her with her soft voice. Nova fears her dad, but she hugs her mom. That may be why her speech seems affected. Possibly being exposed to fear and having anxiety due to that fear, Nova is likely afraid to speak. Hopefully, she doesn't start stuttering. My husband had a stuttering issue when he was young. He said it was due to some fears he had about his dad who would use a belt on him when dealing corporal punishment on him. It was a way to hurt Tyler, the same way Tyler has gone after Simon by throwing out Farrah's name. Simon is not even in a relationship with Farrah (that we know of) and he defends her. Tyler couldn't bother to defend his wife.

LOL There is no dating involved here and Andrew is certainly no man. Andrew is the switch hitter in the ballgame of fuckery that is Amber's life. The mascot is Marilyn Monroe and the bench is actually a couch.

Cate must be a punk, too since she initially went after Farrah for her looks, her job, and her entire being. Cate is certainly not an innocent person when it comes to throwing shade, tweeting criticisms, or going full-on attack. Don't dish out criticisms if you can't handle it coming back at you.

She suffered a miscarriage before she recently entered rehab, assuming one believes she was ever pregnant: https://okmagazine.com/photos/catelynn-lowell-miscarriage-rehab/ Thanks @druzy. See, that is why I can't get on board with the idea Cate was pregnant. She may have lied to MTV and Tyler. She may have done it for a storyline. Strange that all these pregnancies occurred after Briana was brought in per @CofCinci. Mirena Crash - I appreciate the info.

Tyler probably felt he couldn't tell Catelynn his true feelings about having a baby because Cate is so quick to fall into her depressed mode or run to rehab. Something is so wonky about this storyline, mainly the timeline. Are we to believe Cate just took out her IUD (via her doctor), she became pregnant immediately, TESTED POSITIVE ON A PEE STICK, suffered a miscarriage, and I assume, we will then see her in rehab in the next episode? It's been years since I peed on a pregnancy stick, but don't you have to be at least 4 weeks along for it to work? I hate when MTV makes me speculate and ponder whether they are pulling my leg with the editing, C&T are lying for a storyline, or whether this shit is real. Whether Cate was pregnant or not, I think it was just awful of her to tell NotCarly that she was having a baby. Now, she has to explain to her that there is no baby in "mommy's tummy." Generally, one usually waits a certain amount of time to pass before revealing a pregnancy because of the possibility of having a miscarriage. Or is that not the norm anymore?

I remember my doctor telling me to avoid frozen dinners (the "healthy" ones) when I asked her about losing ten pounds. She mentioned they are highly processed foods which should be avoided. The healthier choices are canned tuna or frozen veggies. I think Kail said she wasn't a big veggie eater. I know there are the wraps that seem to be popular or having lettuce wrap a chicken sandwich instead of bread. But honestly, I don't see Kail even going that route. She likes her fast food and her ranch dressing. She is like Cate - they are lazy and they are accustomed to a certain taste that comes from eating the crap they do. When Cate was shown cooking breakfasts at various times throughout the show, it was pounds of bacon along with eggs, potatoes and toast. Nothing wrong with that once in a while, but I am sure it is more than once a week. Kail is soooooo lazy (sounding like a mama joke) she loses weight by going to see Dr. Miami. She can't even bother to put money into someone who can teach her to eat healthier and have a trainer come by to assist her.

I noticed cans of Sparkling Ice in that kitchen scene. Cate had one in her hand, there were two others on the counters in the kitchen. http://www.sparklingice.com/ From what I have read, they are worse than diet soda. Touching upon Amber's spite baby, when was it revealed Matt had married that chick in Vegas? I am trying to see if maybe Amber heard about the marriage and that was when she decided to just get pregnant. This show should change its name to TTM (Maci will love this) - Totally Trashy Moms

One of her "recipes" That is horrible @ghoulina. I can't blame you for not wanting to deal with the company after that! I am sure the owner of the company would be upset to hear that management didn't handle that situation the proper way. No excuse whatsoever for Kail to eat the way she does, however, she is lazy. Plain and simple. She isn't going to do more than she has to when it comes to making meals for her boys. She wants to order in food or eat out. To hell with how terrible that is for the boys and their overall health. It is one thing to maybe have hot dog night or Mom's night off and ordering in food, something I did when my children were young. But I was at least offering up home-made dinner that consisted of at least a serving of vegetables. Basically, eating out or ordering in was the treat of the week, not the main course every fucking night.

I truly want to believe it, ghoulina, but since Tyler told Cate he doesn't want to know about any planning of a pregnancy, he wants to be surprised and all that, I find it fairly possible that Cate decided to lie about being pregnant. Sort of a way to test the waters. When she saw Tyler's reaction - and possibly more of his true reaction when the cameras were gone - she likely felt like utter shit. All that hyping about having another baby, she realized she was fooled into thinking it was okay to plan this pregnancy (how stupid that is just to type out), surprise him, and he'd be over the moon. Instead, he looked like he was just told Teen Mom was canceled and no more six figure checks. She then had to tell him down the road she had a miscarriage. If she went to rehab due to suicidal feelings and depression, it was due to the feeling that Tyler is not okay about her being pregnant. The other possibility is likely that she was in fact pregnant, and due to the stress of knowing Tyler wasn't happy about it, her terrible health and other factors, she did lose the baby. The thing I keep reminding myself is these two have lied and MTV has covered up for them so many times, that it comes so easy for me to believe this miscarriage never happened because she wasn't pregnant. Same with Maci. She could have told Tyler she was pregnant and miscarried. How would he truly know? She could have easily said she miscarried and it happened at home in the bathroom.

If Ryan was brain-damaged, someone, mainly Jen, would have mentioned that long ago to explain away his drug addiction or at the very least, his behavior. I believe Ryan is brain-damaged now, but it is due to the addiction, which can happen to many addicts. Ryan first season wasn't as bad as he is now, but all that can mean is he hadn't hit heroin yet. He was likely popping pills. Thanks. I was just going to post that we don't know the exes, but we can see the legal documents where his exes have filed restraining orders against him. That is all I need to know about the guy at this stage. This isn't a case of an angry ex (like Kail) who did it out of spite. When there are at least two different people filing restraining orders against you, and they have documentation of your harassment or abuse, you are not fit to be in a relationship with anyone. Seems like Andrew has you believing he is not a con artist. See how good he is. He fooled you. : ) All this chatter about what he has through his family is just what he is likely telling Amber and it is likely how he paints himself. Notice, he is not the one saying anything to the viewers. It is Amber who is throwing out all this information about Andrew. Just because Andrew's father may have made a decent living working as a cinematographer, that doesn't mean Andrew was benefiting from him financially. Andrew's parents may have had money (that has never been proven or established, by the way), that doesn't mean he has money. My parents were very well off due to all their hard work. That didn't mean I was well-off. I had to work to earn my money. My parents paid for my education and my car. Any money after that was loaned to me with the promise to pay it back in payments. What I inherited from them came after my father passed away and that was many years down the road after I was married and had children. I remember a Cosby Show episode where Dr. Huxtable had to explain to Vanessa how they (Dr. Huxtable and Mrs. Huxtable) are rich, but not her. Andrew doesn't have enough work credit established to even be considered a true cinematographer. He is more like those guys who they call in when they need to replace someone.

Sophia is Derek's child. Paternity was established when Farrah requested social security benefits for Sophia. Derek's sister helped Farrah with that test. I am glad you pointed that out about Nova. I wanted to mention it before, but I felt as if maybe I was just looking at her in a different way because of C&T being her bio parents. She seems like a child who is left to her own devices far too often. Catelynn is wanting a child so Nova will have someone to entertain her. Oh, and to keep Tyler around and make him feel guilty if he left the relationship and left her saddled with two children. They have the same job as Maci - MTV. What on earth does Maci do all day? I know Chelsea has a messy home, but she is home all day with her toddler. She then has Aubree home when she comes home from school. Maci has her kids in day-care all day long while Bentley is in school. Maci's home, particularly her kitchen was in such disarray. A big pile of papers on the microwave. I have noticed that stack there for quite some time. I haven't posted about it thinking it was just the same day or the same week. It made me want to clean. That is not a good thing, especially when my home is already clean.

No sympathy for you, Kail. You reap what you sow with how you eat. Having a pity party? It sure doesn't feel good to have people criticize your looks, does it? I am sure the girl whose nappy hair was so offensive to you, felt that way when you criticized her for her natural and beautiful hair, unlike yours which is half extensions. I am sure when you were sitting there cheering on Catelynn as she called out Farrah as a "fucking hoe-bag" you sure were not thinking about the criticism Farrah felt. You fully deserve every single bit of criticism that slaps you in your ugly face. Pictures can tell a story better than any words. Below one of the images is from Kail's blog. She mentions finding some recipes on Pinterest which is sometimes better than ordering out all the time. Then, one of her fave recipes is listed - Pizza Twists. The second image shows her eating french fries and drinking alcoholic beverages while recuperating from her plastic surgery in Miami. You know, the surgery to suck out the fat from her body. The rest (some from her Twitter) show why she is back to being overweight:

I am done with this show. I just can't handle the whole HIV angle. I know it is a dramatization and all, but I just can't watch it. Even if Versace had HIV, that had nothing to do with why he was murdered.

She also has dirt on him.