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Maci had her mic on as well. Cate didn't. Good point. It also explains why Farrah wasn't pushing Doctor McSkeevy away from her when he was forcing his embrace. If she had a bit too much wine, and he had just blasted her for her behavior, Farrah was likely not in the mindset to let him to know to keep himself away from her.

As a sexual assault victim, I do not care how horrid any person is to their family, friends, or employees. Farrah's behavior is not worthy of any sort of sexual intimidation. I would never wish anything like that to happen to anyone. Anything that involves any male, or even a female, putting their hands and/or body in close contact to any person forcibly and against their will, is a violation. I am disgusted to think that anyone finds that acceptable, funny, or even karma at play here. This reminds me of the attitude that some people have about prostitutes and the idea that rapists should go and rape a prostitute instead of an innocent person because a prostitute is not worthy and is society's trash and therefore, deserves to be harmed. Regarding the bolding, which is mine, the fact she doesn't know this person (he is no man), makes no difference. In fact, it can be worse because she doesn't know his history. If she had a hint that he might be some kind of pervert, she at least has that knowledge and can stand her ground, not be around him, she can make that choice. Still, it is irrelevant. Whether one knows someone or they are perfect strangers, no one should ever violate or invade the private space of another without permission or consent. I don't have to have been an assault victim in order to have sympathy or understanding. I just know it is never right for any human being to be subjected to any sort of pawing, touching, manhandling, caressing, hugging, embracing, feeling or groping that is against their will. Farrah is who she is and as much as I cannot stand how she treats people and how much her behavior will affect her precious daughter, I cannot fathom the idea that it is somehow funny or even okay for her to be on the receiving end of some guy's paws. That was not consensual. She didn't put herself into his space or give any indication she wanted a hug. That guy pushed his whole body into hers, put his arms around her, and just invaded her safe boundary that we all should have and should protect. She was cornered. She looked uncomfortable. She had that same look that I had when I was supposed to be nice to the family friend who just wanted to hug me and embrace me many times. That same family friend who violated my space many times by wanting to hold my hand, or kiss me on the cheek. The same person who eventually took my innocence. All of this happened when I was a child. This guy didn't rape her, but he did cross the line. I am thinking of the recent story of Marlon Brando and the young woman in the movie Last Tango in Paris. Brando didn't rape his co-star per se, but he did go further than she anticipated and violated her body against her will. As females, we are made to feel bad for not wanting any person to hug us or embrace us in certain situations. We have a right to not want to have anyone be touchy with our hands and our bodies. I have sympathy for Farrah because she was likely inebriated after drinking wine, and probably felt if she pushed him away or said something horrible to him, she would get another tongue-lashing from this asshole who had already made it his business to tell her off for how she mistreats her mother. Yes, what he told her was the truth, BUT IT IS NOT HIS PLACE TO TELL HER THAT TRUTH. Farrah did not ask for his opinion. If I were to ever meet any one of these girls in person, it is not my business to go and tell them what I really think of them and how shitty each and every one of them are. I post here what I think and feel. I am not in their face telling them. Now, if I was invited to sit down where I could meet these girls and was given permission to ask questions or let them know how I really feel about them, then I would do so. Doctor McSkeevy had no business whatsoever to tell Farrah anything. He is not Deb's husband. He was in no position to say a damn thing about the relationship between Deb and Farrah. Frankly, I am sick of all of these mutherfuckers who think they can go after Farrah in various ways and for what? Because she made a porn tape? It surely isn't because she is rude to Mama Deb. MTV is the biggest asshole of all for allowing a lot of this crap to happen to Farrah by the likes of Maci, Amber, and Cate.

Yes. In fact, Leah has two parents - Kristina and Gary. Can someone tell me why isn't Amber in trouble for taking a swing at Farrah at the very least? Isn't she on probation or parole? Not someone who will take a swig of a drink before giving it to the customers.

Right about Catelynn. There is so much worse about her that give B&T plenty of reasons to be careful about their daughter interacting with them, and none of those reasons have to do with how much Cate weighs or even what appears to be bad hygiene. However, I will judge Cate on her appearance as she has no qualms about judging Farrah on hers or even to judge people and call them "retards". At that point, all bets are off. If Cate gets a little weight bashing because it is a topic she herself has put out there, then she needs to take it as much as she doles it out. But this is Debra we are talking about. I just watched her in a previous episode explaining to Dr. Jen her version of what happened between her daughter and Doctor McSkeevy. Debra's version of how things went down at dinner was not at all how I watched it play out. I am surprised Farrah didn't turn her head like Linda Blair and start screaming at her mother for being a liar because that is what I was doing when I was watching Debra twist that dinner story into something different. With that, I think Debra is telling the wig story the way she wishes it had went down. I think it is Deb who wants to be young and look like Farrah. Exactly. @poopchute perhaps you missed my post a while back about my friend meeting Dr. Drew in Vegas. She met him in one of the casinos and posted a photo of herself with him. I quickly asked her to ask him the question I have wanted answered - does he watch the TM shows at any time prior to the reunion shows. She asked. He told her he doesn't. He only watches certain scenes from various episodes right before filming of the reunion show begins. Not sure how soon prior. I am guessing a few days before. MTV gives him the questions to ask the girls because MTV is in control. Dr. Drew is there as a host only. He reads off the blue cards according to what it is MTV wants brought up. No different than how MTV is while filming this show. They have the producers there prodding the cast members with topics they want brought up. So, really even if Dr. Drew does ask some hardball questions or he does respond to some outlandish comment from any of the cast members, I believe 1000% MTV edits that out because it is not what they want. I, for one, was happy as a clam when Farrah called out Dr. Drew. Dr. Drew is there like everyone else - for a paycheck. Nothing more. Nothing less. He admitted he is not there as anyone's doctor. I believe MTV has him host these shows because it gives the show some sort of credence to have a "doctor" host and for him to throw out the pregnancy statistics and all of the other medical information which we know MTV loves to flaunt.

They are necessary to Tyler because it gets him the attention he constantly craves. I can see him driving down the street as he thinks he is all that. He probably gets the attention of females so, that's a plus. If he gets the attention of older men, even better.

It drives home the point that it is not just Cate who is spending money, and if Tyler is feeling the squeeze of money getting tight, it doesn't help that he went out and purchased two classic cars even if it was three years ago. That is money being spent foolishly. Tyler then has the audacity to get on Catelynn's ass for wanting to spend money. Maybe he should set the example. Instead, he is doing the whole "Do as I say, not as I do." My husband owns a classic car and belongs to a classic car club. It cost a lot of money to restore his car. He put in over $15k to restore his car to its original look. Even if Tyler bought those cars already restored, those two cars did not come cheap at all. Those are classics. Exactly. They are on their way to the poor house.

They've already pissed through it. Photo of two of Tyler's cars in the driveway of his new home. So, how many cars now does the Bacteria family own?

I think Sophia has ratty hair because Farrah expects her to brush it and take care of it on her own. This is the same mother who said she has her life and Sophia has her own. She also made Sophia her own boss and owner of a boutique who apparently can hire and fire people. If going by what Amber says is true, then she still can't be participate in kick-boxing because she is still on parole. I am assuming the judge doesn't want Amber participating in anything where she can be called out for being aggressive and thus, violating her parole. With that said, I have never heard of such a thing. I didn't realize someone can be stopped from participating in a sport or exercise where there is contact simply because they are on parole or probation. Then again, I don't know anyone personally who is on probation or parole. Tyler is full of shit if he is not spending money foolishly. Here are just two of the cars he and Cate own:

I don't think she mentioned the book cover. I think she was just talking in general about how hot she thinks Matt is. I can't remember the question asked by that useless host of the show, but that is what got Amber started on mentioning Matt. I have not seen Amber talk with so much glee about Leah the way she talks about Matt.

The realtor wouldn't have had to mention a park if these idiots with dogs would think about where their pooches are going to be walking around other than in their doggy room. I think the husband was fine with knowing there was a park nearby. He would have taken that townhouse in a heartbeat if his wife had no say-so in the matter. And to think, he then bitched about no doggy door on the last house. What about opening that glass-sliding door to the backyard? Christmas window...Christmas window...ugh. I was happy that she didn't get her damn Christmas window.

I could be wrong, but maybe Leah is seeking to find another black boyfriend? Just a guess.

They are filming this newest season or they may have just finished. That could be what Jenelle is referencing. Kail has already alluded this would be the last season for TM2 aside from that linked article posted above. From what was posted before, there is no season 8. The upcoming season will be season 7B.

Those three act as if they are above Farrah when in reality, not one of them can sit there and make that claim. Maci with her pearl-clutching over the porn and sex industry, goes out and tries to find herself a hubby by any means possible. She may not be making porn videos, but she was giving her body to whatever guy came along, playing house with these guys, and then removing her birth control in order to conceive with Tyler. I mention removing her birth control because she is the one who mentioned having a certain kind of bc. But since this is Maci, who knows what the real truth is with her. Amber - addict, abuser, felon...playing house with a guy who has 8 children who are not being supported by him and is an accused rapist...really Amber? You are no different than Farrah. In fact, you are worse. At least the porn tape was just that, a porn tape. Farrah wasn't shacking up with James Deen. You, on the other hand, are shacking up with a dude who you have no problem paying to be by your side. Matt is your escort until he leaves your ass or you come to your senses. I don't see you coming to your senses until it is far too late. Catelynn - don't get me started on her shit. She hates Farrah because Tyler must have been caught looking at Farrah's porn. She also hates Farrah because of that reunion show where Farrah had no problem calling her and Tyler out for not fulfilling their many dreams of going to college or at least getting a life. Then, there is the bullshit about having to wait around for Farrah at the studio to tape the reunion show. As if their lives are so busy and they have jobs to get back to.

The problem with Tyler's passion project, is the fact there are people who just don't care to be reunited with any birth relatives. Tyler and Cate are seeing things one-sided. They think all bio parents want to be reunited with children when that is not the case. I never ever wanted to seek out my bio parents. I know the reason why I was given up for adoption. I respected their privacy. I cannot imagine seeking them out and having their secret revealed to their family members who were not made aware of those two having given up a child, just as I wouldn't have been happy if they came to seek me out and disrupting my life. http://www.inquisitr.com/3744138/catelynn-and-tyler-baltierra-teen-mom-couple-tackles-painful-adoption/

Where is the master bath suite? Is there a man cave?

I wonder if this was staged. I mean, it is possible Deb's boyfriend and Farrah have already met prior to this scene. He may have already told Farrah exactly how he feels about how Deb is treated by her and this is why Farrah went off on Deb in the other episode. Just a hunch.

Farrah didn't film the after show because of the fighting that took place. This Ask the TM special was filmed during the same time period as the reunion. It is MTV's chance to film with the cast all together. Farrah wasn't going to be around and pretend things are fine among the cast. The three stooges have made it clear they don't like her, although I am not sure what makes them so damn special.

See, that is Amber pushing Gary's buttons from afar. Those are things she'd love to say to his face, but she can't because she knows Gary would put her in her place with the truth. Therefore, she does it on camera. Amber is the one who has always been passive-aggressive and the button-pusher when it comes to her relationship with Gary. This is why I couldn't get behind the idea about Gary being this button-pushing person who should have known better than to do that to Amber because she would then go after him physically and verbally. Watching Amber take her digs about Gary and the cook-out, Kristina somehow being at fault for Leah not saying "I love you" to Amber, and all the other things she has made up in her giant head, is one giant ploy to seek attention and sympathy.

Thanksgiving came early for me once I saw these photos! LOL I am so grateful for you all! The photos, the snark, everything. Hope you all have a wonderful and safe holiday!!

I think he takes his glasses off and downs a bottle of Hennessy right before he has sex with Amber so he thinks he is pounding Marilyn Monroe. If not, he'd look at Amber as if she was Marilyn Manson instead. How strange for Amber to have gone blonde right after Farrah did. If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd think Matt was pushing Amber to look like Farrah, but he is telling her Marilyn Monroe instead.

@ChicagoChris she doesn't owe any explanation for any of the personal choices she makes. And breastfeeding or not breastfeeding is not the issue from what I read. I think it was just Maci not being honest. Snark is the norm around these parts. LOL By appearing on these after show specials, Maci is aware of what will be asked of her before they ask her. That is why specific questions are asked of these girls. The hostess does not ask the hardball questions. The producers even make sure what question will be asked by the audience member, which clearly is a question set up by MTV. Maci can say she has no intention of answering such questions that she deems personal and private, but clearly it is more important for her to get that bonus check than it is to say she won't answer personal questions. No one is putting a gun to her and demanding she answer. She chooses to answer and put her personal life out there. Just as she learned when she put her foot down about Farrah being on the show. She realized her threats and personal feelings don't mean shit to MTV. They will just not film her and she won't get paid. There is nothing wrong with giving an opinion on Maci either for believing she'd rather put her beer before breastfeeding. As a matter of fact, there is nothing wrong with a mother wanting her daily chug of beer or sip of wine. Go for it. IMO I think Maci just didn't want breastfeeding to interfere with her beer drinking OR she is afraid to breastfeed because she has fake tits. Some women don't feel comfortable breastfeeding if they have silicone breasts. Another thought might be, she may believe the breastfeeding might cause them to sag, just as Farrah feared in her 16 & Pregnant episode. Be honest about it Maci. Be honest for a change rather than throw out some lie like you did when you tried to play the audience for fools about your oopsie third baby. I could have sworn Maci's dress looked like it was a silver/greyish color gown going by the photos that were linked here after the wedding. I cannot believe it was pink! This is like that stupid dress that was in the news about people seeing it as blue/black or gold/white.

Then, Maci would be pumping and dumping all day because I don't see girlfriend stopping long enough for her breast milk to be clear of beer.

I believe they taped that right after the assault that took place during the reunion taping. Farrah wasn't going to stick around and act as if they are all chummy when clearly those three self-righteous, priggish, smug bitches cannot stand Farrah for daring to hold them up for five hours for the reunion taping. How dare she make those three hyenas sit around and wait while they get paid! I mean, those three aren't used to sitting around and doing nothing. She should be since Debra spends an enormous amount of her personal time helping her daughter out by wearing many hats such as babysitter, consultant, floor cleaner, painter, landscaper, punching bag, and all the myriad jobs she does for that ungrateful child. This. All throughout the early seasons of this crap-fest, it was Gary who was there for Leah, not Amber. Please re-watch the 16 & Pregnant episode of Amber. Or was it the first episode of Teen Mom where all Amber did was complain to Gary and rag on him about her not getting any sleep and she was too tired to care for their newborn? He reminded her of his full-time job and she snaps back at him in a threatening manner which caused Gary to believe he was going to be assaulted. Did you all notice in the Ask the Moms special the throwback scene they aired of Amber lying in bed as she yelled out TO LEAH how Gary was a cheater? Amber lying in bed 7 seasons ago. Nothing has changed.

Leah is being used by those two. I fucking hate Amber and Matt.

I prefer "peak preview". It grew on me.