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And pay all the damn bills.

Barb would need an OSC - Order to Show Cause, just like what Doris did when she filed her documents. Barb cannot file a TRO without just cause. MTV would have to provide their footage to the courts. Going by what happened during the Cory and Leah custody issue, no footage would be considered due to the show being highly edited. In fact, MTV informed the court the show itself is highly edited. We didn't see anything happen inside Jenelle's home. All we know is from the texts the producer and photographer read off and even that doesn't seem enough to prove there was any domestic violence. Jenelle didn't text she was being held against her will. Jenelle said David was cursing at her and putting her down. That doesn't fall under the perimeters of domestic violence. It show a toxic relationship, but that is not enough for the courts to do anything.

I wonder if Russell is really a rapper Chris likes. When Kail would go to concerts, she wasn't going to rap concerts. Is she just trying to come off hip and with it? Kaiser is also Jenelle's child. Kaiser's line descends from her family as well, not just his. Kaiser has both of these people as his parents. That poor child. I hope their mental genetic issues don't affect him.

Maci sure does enjoy the free babysitting. Her drinking is out of hand. Her high-and-mighty attitude really made me see her in a different light. The whole porn issue concerning Farrah was so wrong on so many levels. Maci declaring herself as some authority on morality when you consider how she lives her life and what it was that got her on Teen Mom to begin with, is pretty damn ridiculous. All of them have said something about Farrah. All of them. I don't think Chelsea ever said anything about Farrah. I can't even recall if Jenelle ever said anything. Adulting! Perfect way of putting it. I fully agree.

THAT is what she was hoping would happen! You got it. I felt there had to be more than just her seeking attention and having people praise her.

Now you have me wondering about the anxiety attacks and migraine being connected. MTV surely loves to heighten everything that happens on this show. Jenelle gets stroked by that producer of hers to the point that it makes me want to throw a brick at my television. Planning a wedding doesn't have to be hard if you have the money to pay someone to plan it out for you. I will admit though, when the holidays show up, I find myself stressing out a bit because I need to have my home in tip-top shape. The decor, gift shopping, planning a holiday meal for guests, it can be pretty irksome for me. I keep telling myself I won't do it this year, but I end up doing it. It just never fails. I do find myself feeling ANXIOUS. LOL I can spare Chelsea some room for feeling a wee bit anxious. It is not as if she went full-on ogre like Kail did when she yelled at Javi, snapped at her wedding party, and called out Javi's sister for being too cheap to pay for earrings. Total bridezilla. It looks like Chelsea had a full-on wedding, not just a reception. I guess she wanted to have that wedding for the people who were not there last year? She was better off just having a civil ceremony and then having her wedding a year later the way Kail did.

Jenelle used slurs on Twitter when she went after Kieffer. http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/jenelle-evans-slammed-kieffer-delp-called-him-a-nr/ I don't think Jenelle is a racist. I do think she has no filter and resorts to name-calling, including using slurs, to hit below the belt. Jenelle's social media tweets and posts have been very cringe-worthy when she goes off on her rants. I am no prude. I have used certain language when appropriate and with adults including here on PTV. But never, ever have I ever used any slur or racist words to refer to anyone. It doesn't roll of my tongue like it does other people e.g. Kail and Jenelle, because it is not in my mind. When I hear people use such words, it tells me a lot about them. http://www.wetpaint.com/jenelle-evans-baby-kaiser-name-hitler-827729/ I do think Nathan may have racist tendencies. He is also an idiot to think that a child is imperfect if they need glasses. He must be related to the Messer Clan:

OMG Leah has nailed it! She put that witch nose of hers to good use:

First, one needs to be a man. Jace is more man than David can ever dream of. I'd love to be hidden in the bushes out there and put a damn arrow in David's weird-shaped head. He has no heart. No point in wasting an arrow trying to shoot him there in that black dark hole. Anyone willing to be a driver and getting me out of there quick? All I ask is we stop by WV so I can grab me one of those pepperoni snacks Leah bought her kids.

Scarlett45 How about switching Maci's #2 spot with Farrah? Maci drank during her pregnancies. I could give Farrah a bit more points for not exposing Sophia to alcohol while she was pregnant. Jenelle doesn't even deserve to be on the list. She is no mother. She is merely a breeder. Ladies, I too have had my fair share of migraines. I have only had one this year. I pray it is the only one. They are no joke. Virtual hugs to all of you as well. I agree @Christina87 I can deal with other forms of pain. I'd rather endure pain from surgery than a migraine. Agree about the stress these girls complain from. Might I add, I am sick and tired of people saying they are having an anxiety attack when they really should be saying they are anxious. Chelsea said it most recently and I just couldn't take it. I have yet to see anyone on this series truly have an anxiety attack. Not even Cate. I have had a few anxiety attacks. Like the migraines, they are no fucking joke. It is a horrible feeling. It's been several years since I had one. I hope it never happens again.

Kail would just swim with the rest of the whales. Hopefully, she beaches herself.

He is living it up in Vegas. Didn't he try to put the spotlight on himself during the Vegas shooting tragedy?

Mkay when I have company coming over, every damn thing that is laying around my house gets thrown in my bedroom. I shut the door and do a quick dusting. Hoarders always causes me to make a mad dash to my cleaning supply closet. I recall when I was dealing with uterine problems and migraines. Housework was just not going to happen.

Kailyn and Chelsea were both involved in sports. Chelsea hooked up with a loser who was mentally and verbally abusive. That is a cycle that is so hard to break for any person, especially if they are young. I see many young people like Chelsea who are caught up in these types of relationships. Chelsea's life really could have been worse had she remained with that abuser. She also happened to come from a home where her parents were divorced. Divorce is so painful on children. It is a pain that doesn't always go away. Kail is a mentally and abusive person. She came from a single parent household where that parent was an alcoholic. I wish Kail would get into proper treatment. She so desperately needs it. At this point, it is not what could have been as much as where are they now in their lives such as self-awareness, self-esteem, mental growth and maturity.

I am not clear on what you mean by this. I am serious, not being snarky.

Excellent post. Oh, my dear. I recall the days of being a SAHM and wishing I was working. When I began working, I wanted to be at home. The grass is always greener on the other side, they say. I remember when I was working and wishing I could be a SAHM and saying all the things you posted. Well, I did have a chance to be at home. As much as I told myself I would keep a clean home and would have a wonderful Julia Child meal prepared for my family every single night, it didn't always happen. Life got in the way. My upbringing was similar to Chelsea's. One big difference is, my parents remained married. I have no idea what life must have been like for Chelsea to have dealt with divorced parents. As you pointed out, our upbringing sometimes makes us see things a certain way. Perhaps for Chelsea, her upbringing likely molded the idea in her head that if given the opportunity, she was going to give her marriage and family life 100 percent of her love and attention. Chelsea has been shown that she cooks meals. She is attentive to her infant. I am sure many parents would love the chance to have been home with their children and not return to work. I can't fault Chelsea for keeping her attention on her children and her husband of one year. She can clean her home any day of the week, which I am sure she does, but spending time with your infant is time well spent. Those children grow up so fast. It is nice when you can be there for them all day long 24/7. I do recall Cole and Aubree doing some housework. Aubree was cleaning with the Swiffer. It isn't as if it was a foreign concept to her. Chelsea also has a chore chart for daughter. My way of determing if a home is dirty and needs attention is if I get the nagging feeling to clean after looking at it. That never happens after watching Chelsea's segments.

LOL that photo. Those hips are lying. Agree @Mkay there is some funny stuff going on with the photo. Again with ripped jeans? Does she own any clothes that are not ripped below the waist? I'd hate to see her underwear.

Exactly. @JuliesMommy, you also made great points in response to editing comment and we see what MTV wants to show us. I know some have referenced her from time to time, but it never gets old to refer to Heather B. from The Real World when she said they (MTV) can't air what you don't show. If you act like a bitch, they will show you acting like a bitch. (paraphrasing) Yes, thanks to the world of social media and the internet, these fools have given us plenty to show us who they are aside from what we view on our screens. They love to give interviews. They love to get paid.

Jenelle and David both have one eye larger than the other. Check out those photos again.

I never cared for ranking these people although, I think I did make a list at least once or twice over the seasons. To me, it is a moot point as more and more happens over these seasons that make me realize that overall most of the Teen Moms are damaged goods to the point I don't see them ever making personal changes. I will point out that Jenelle and Kail have way too many similarities. I made a list and it was long. These two really stand out to me as never being able to change mainly because they are mentally in need of help that I don't think they will ever seek. They don't see themselves that way. They think all their problems and all the things that happen to them are due to external forces, not internal. As much as she claims to have hustle, Kail doesn't come off that way to me. She has a massive ego and is impulsive. She will try a podcast job because, why not? She is after all, a famous tv reality star. She will try a communications career only because, as she said a few episodes back, she thought she had her foot in the door with her 8 seasons of Teen Mom behind her. She clearly believes she is higher up on the totem pole, I think that is how she worded it. Kail chose a goal based on her assumption that she was someone who didn't need to hustle. She didn't need to go seek a job. She thought it would be handed to her. She may have thought MTV was going to give her the green light to start working for them and start working on projects for new tv shows. The girl couldn't even hustle to get decent grades. Barely passing? Hardly the actions of someone who truly has aspirations. Kail just wants to flaunt that degree and expects to have some company hand her a job. Her career goal doesn't bother me. I don't think she has any career goals, period. I think that is what people snark at with regards to Kail. I truly don't see it as it bothering anyone. The only thing these moms and dads do that is truly bothersome is the dysfunctional lives they lead and the child abuse.

Thank you. Agree to your entire post. I don't think Aubree wants her last name changed to a hyphenated name to fit in as much as she thinks of it as some kind of novelty. She doesn't comprehend what it is all about.

One is only a felon on the weekends. I love you! ZINGER!! UBT is on probation. I know what he said and did back in July doesn't affect him now, but would getting a visit from CPS be considered a violation of probation? I hope Jace or at least Maryssa says something that would put that dick behind bars.

ITA. I think Cory and Leah were told to give Gracie some more attention and make her feel more catered to which is why he took the girls fishing because it was what Gracie wanted to do.

I too have been to weddings where a bride changed into a different formal dress for the reception. Back in my day, brides wore their wedding dress throughout the special day. If you have the money, go for it. IMO I'd rather spend my money on a nice honeymoon vacation or home rather than spend it on a wedding. Then again, I don't bring in six figures a year. That would likely change my opinion on things. I have also been to weddings where the reception took place at a later date. Some couples are about having intimate weddings for whatever reason. I was never one to really want to go to the actual wedding since 99.9% of the weddings took place in church. It is tedious, long, and boring. After a few of those, I stopped going to the wedding and just attended the reception. The only wedding ceremonies I go to are for immediate family members. I don't see the big deal with Chelsea having hers later. I don't care for her dress since it seems to clash with what Cole is wearing which seems like his everyday wear.

I have to point out that I had a hard time sleeping last night because this image was burned in my memory. It won't leave my mind. I am crying as I type this out. I am horrified at seeing those angelic eyes as they peer at the devil that is coming towards him. How many times has Kaiser seen this kind of rage towards him? I have watched how this prick has taken out his rage on this innocent and defenseless child while this same child's mother just sat there and allowed it to happen. No motherly instincts at all. That twat sits back and watches her child being grabbed, tossed, and treated like he is a thrift store doll ready to be banished to the trash. How many times has he been spanked, hit, slapped, cursed at, had things thrown at him? How many tears did this child shed because all he wanted was to be hugged or loved? How many times were his tears ignored? How many times was he locked outside with the other kids while the adults who are supposed to care for him were too lazy, tired, high, passed out, or were in the middle of mutual combat inside the house? I am not watching a mother who finds herself in an abusive situation and wanting to leave, but due to fear and threats she remains. This is a person who is equally guilty of domestic violence. Usually, children can run to one parent in a DV situation and seek protection from the abuser. These children are fucked. They can't run to either adult in the home. Jace has the benefit of having Barb and only living with Jenelle part-time. Kaiser as well. Endtable and Maryssa are there all the time. Who can they run to? I mentioned this story on a TMOG thread. I posted a story about some kids who live in my neighborhood. They are living with a relative after the murder of their mother due to domestic violence. The youngest is a year younger than Kaiser. When I see that precious little boy, I always hug him. When his siblings take him out to the small market near our home, they pass by and he always waves at me when I am outside watering my lawn or tending to something. There was a time when that precious little boy wouldn't smile. He witnessed abuse. He was also abused. It pains me that they lost their mother, but I am happy that those kids are no longer having to be abused by their so-called father. They are in therapy now. I visit them from time to time. I have allowed those kids to come and spend time with my dog. My dog loves children. I have taken treats or pizza to them on occasion and those kids have given me love. The smile on their faces when I come through their front door is priceless. I see the youngest and when he runs to me to hug me, it is the best feeling in the world. Last night, I saw Kaiser's face and I was balling like a baby. I want to be able to hold him like I do this little boy. Sadly, I can't. I feel like something needs to be done for these children. I hate feeling so helpless. Damn you, Jenelle and David. I seriously hate you both and I hope Doris is successful in her custody case. I am sorry, Kaiser for all you are suffering at the hands of these two evil people. I am sorry I can't be there for you.