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Too bad the Nanny probably had to sign something saying no tell alls when her employment ended with them.

The folks at New Day where Will came from and the Indian orphanage where Zoey came from probably cringe IF and when they see how these kids are turning out. Showing little or no respect to parents, eating lots of junk food, running around like wild things in stores, throwing toys on the floor in front of guests, driving around in toy cars, huge sense of entitlements, etc etc. They probably shake their heads and say Yep, American excess from wealthy parents.

She met him when they were 10. They did not get to know each other until many years later. And people change over time. Bill's best business decision was to marry Jen.

Will was given time outs in China according to Jen, and when he was ready to behave folded his hands. We saw him do this in an earlier season. He seemed like a good kid and fairly well behaved back then. I wonder what happened. Now he has a smart mouth, runs amok and does not listen to his parents, yells and screams and shrieks. Oh yeah, and tells his mother he does not like her.

I really thought Will was going to fall in the sting ray tank.

I believe that almost everything related to dr checkups is approved or edited by TLC including Bill and Jen..who are producers. Their call but not honest to the viewers. Case in point: Jen getting a clean bill of health from her dr when her cancer was cured. Jen smiling and looking at the dr, do you really think that ALL of them did NOT know beforehand that Jen was in the clear before they aired that?? Great news for Jen. But the same applies to the kids. Those kids have so many issues, Jen and Bill obviously do not want to put them out there. For example, we now know that Zoey has ear tubes but we never saw that on the show. Will faces signfiicant developmental delays and surgery to fix his bowled legs. Did not Jen in a previous season reveal that he falls many times a day? I hope they get off the air before he goes through that surgery.

The fact that Jen was making such a big deal about how well the kids were getting along, along with her admission that they do not have kids over very much makes me wonder if Will and Zoey have many friends.

Am curious to hear more about Bill's franchising plans for Rocky and Maggie's. Seems he is going really upscale. Jen's good friend seemed less than comfortable. But obviously she knew she was going to be filmed by TLC. I am willing to go along with the idea that this was a fake Halloween. Most likely on a real Halloween night, there would have been a lot more kids out making a bit more challenging to have the kids in their little cars.

Will does have a mean streak. He has hit people including his mother and has bit and tackled his sister. One can only imagine what goes on behind the scenes. Not to mention how he tries to steal the show from his sister whenever he can. Bill finally apologized to Zoey for ruining her party and making her cry. We did not see Will do the same.

I think Zoey still can catch up but I am not sure about Will. He really seems to have serious developmental delays based on what we see. It seems that his birth parents in China tragically left him to die after he was born and thanks to the orphanage and eventually New Day, brought back to some semblance of life. Enter Bill and Jen who are probably still learning how to cope with Will's problems. Both Jen and Bill say they want to see the kids happy, so maybe it is what it is. At least they have enough money to help the kids if in fact it turns out that one or both is not capable of living on their own down the road.

I think it is fair to assume that the doctors did not reveal everything about Zoey and Will to the viewers. And there is no reason to. It was pretty clear to me that surgery is in Will's future but not necessarily Zoey's. What caught my attention was that Will is now 35 inches tall. I think that is what they said. And Zoey is 29 inches tall. Well Jen is 38 inches tall and Bill, 48. So Will is about her height and stronger than her. And he tells her to her face he does not like her. That is a little scary in my view. Plus he takes karate lessons. He could easily hurt Jen AND Zoey if he really wanted to. I think he will spare BaBa.

Yes he owns one. At least for now. Poking around online R & Ms estimated revenue is $300k annually. That is estimated so not sure if that is accurate. 3 employees to pay salaries to. So they make some money and apparently enough to justify an upgrade to the facilities and move to a new location. When i first saw the photos online, i thought it was in Florida but apparently not. I guess Bill will travel back and forth as need be to check on the store. Or maybe sell it or try to make it into a chain and open one in Florida if there is a market there. The one thing that they did in a recent episode which i truly appreciated learning about was the pedals that Bill needs to bring along to install in a rental car. I am sure he is used to it by now but that could be a hassle I am sure. Jen's salary is great but that equates to not being home a lot I am afraid. They make bank as Bill likes to say with TLC.

Maybe folks already know this but it seems that on Oct 3, they dropped their house in Houston's price by $26,000. Its now 1.19 milliion. Zillow estimate lists it about 996k. Also, the new location for Rocky and Maggies in Houston is close to opening according to Bill via twitter.

Jen is no fool. At least I hope. A woman who is director of SIMLAB and assoc professor at Hopkins has alot going for her. Facing her condition in a predominantly male environment is not easy. What did she say about Bill, that he makes her feel pretty or something and that is all that matters in a marriage?? Thats crazy. She needs a partner and granted we do not see it all but Bill is not stepping up. In fact, Bill is undermining her attempts to discipline their kids. We see this episode after episode.

If there was a half wall than how did Bill's dad walk over in view of the camera and then Zoey yelled for him to go away. Jen and probably everyone else in that small store knew and heard exactly what was going on and yes Jen should have told them to stop. Instead she let her daughter scream and scream and carry on and cry. And let the boys make a mess in the shop. Disgraceful.

There were some interesting moments last night, that's for sure. I agree with other posters that it appears that Judy has had enough of the whole TLC thing and has a good idea of what is really going on in the Klein household. Judy and Dave are not featured too much yet this season. I thought it was odd that we did not see any real footage of the Kleins at their house after they fled the hurricane. Some family moments were posted on Instagram and Twitter but not on the show. And when Bill said to Judy on the previous ep, here's your chance when she was tying his bow tie, I wondered if that was just a quip or perhaps there is some notable tension behind the scenes. I also thought it possible that Bill and his Dad had a few drinks before the cupcake fiasco. Bill does love booze, he brought back custom blended scotch from Scotland, often mentions how much he enjoys "adult beverages" and he admitted to resorting to booze back in college to get through tough times. So it is not a stretch to wonder if maybe he still drinks more than occasionally. And I really wondered about his Dad when he tossed the money at the Cupcake store owners like they were strippers in order to bribe them to win. That was disgraceful. Not funny at all. I went to that Cupcake Store's website today and it mentions TLC left and right, but no link to last night's episode. A mention on their twitter acct. but nothing more. I am certain those ladies were most unhappy at how things progressed and how upset Zoey was. I felt badly for that little girl. At least she shamed her moronic father into apologizing. Jen should have stepped in and told Bill to STOP. Jen was at the next table, not in another room. And no apology from Will. Will later laughed about it and called his sister a silly goose. Not very nice. Also of note, when Will told Jen that he did not like her. He was sitting in the faux Oval Office and further said he does not like when she suggests he could be such and such. The look on her face was priceless. I noticed on Jen's instagram page that Zoey had a mermaid birthday at Disneyworld, I hope that made up for that terrible cupcake party that was an embarassment.

LOL. She said she doesnt like animals anymore because she is a princess!! I have high hopes for her despite the lack of discipline at home. It is going to be interesting to see how her relationship changes with Will over the years. She has an advantage over him being plucked from an orphanage younger than Will. Will can hang out with Bill for the rest of his life and come up with goofy experiments oops i mean business ventures.

Overall nice episode. Except the cake baking part. I am tired of the gratuitous "lets bake a cake or make a pizza" segments. It was ok to watch early on but now ....gross and disgusting. Even Comedian Bill was wary of what went on before the cake was served to people. Bill and Jen are producers on this show?? What are they thinking?? Nai Nai was/is the only family member who can sort of discipline those kids. Nai Nai was definitely ready for her close up, whatever cosmetic surgery she had done looks great.

I learned something new this episode when they said that both kids needed ear tubes. I recall Will having surgery for them but I did not know about Zoey. Their speech therapist seems really good. I wonder how they are doing with all new doctors in Florida.

Just for fun, i went to Rocky and Maggies website and the pee pads can be purchased online. Boxes of 10, etc. Comes to about $1 per pad.

Or follow the rules and you do not get ice cream.

I was worried when Will and Zoey kept running away from Bill's dad at the Victoria Memorial in front of BP. Had the fences not been there next to the Memorial, it is quite possible those two could have run into the road where cars were zooming by. Those kids are small enough to squeeze through fences, open baby gates at home, and ignore roped off areas as we saw. And I could not believe it took 4 screaming adults to stop Will from throwing the stick into the fountain. I have to believe that there are enough producers and minders around to prevent Will and Zoey from getting hit by cars etc. while TLC is filming but what happens at home when the crew is not there? They live in a huge house, with a pool it seems even larger than the one in Houston, and Will and Zoey are getting to be the size of their parents. Bill and Jen really are not able to stop them anymore it seems. Bill still has some lingering back issues and Jen is just not physically capable of handling them. Plus she has a new job and really needs to focus on settling in there. They may have a number of bedrooms in their home, but I doubt they are going to have a live in Nanny have a bedroom right along side them and their kids.

Dear Jen and Bill, End the show! Your kids need to be away from cameras and public scrutiny. There is always FACEBOOK and instagram if you feel the need to share info about your family.

This episode was worse than the first. Although London and Scotland are lovely places. If TLC is showing us the best this family has to offer than one can only imagine what goes on in their very expensive 2.1 million dollar home when the cameras are not rolling. And it's not about the travel. Will had no interest in engaging with his parents during what could have been a teachable moment using the map even before they went on the trip. He is better behaved than Zoey now and that is sad. Jen and Bill use food to bribe the kids and that is disgraceful at this point. All Jen and Bill do is make excuses for very rude, disrespectful,uncontrollable , poor behavior. If this behavior is related to the kids' Achon condition and developmental delays, Jen is and has been in the best position to get treatment for them. And whatever she is doing, it isn't working. I believe that this is it folks, Jen and Bill feel they are doing a great job raising their kids and their kids are fabulous. Jen and Bill are not going to change. Jen will work hard getting acclimated in a new job and Bill will do whatever he feels like doing. I do not believe they will ever get control of the kids now and be able to teach them proper behavior and manners. Those kids are in for a rough ride and no amount of fancy tea parties or travel or toys or food will fix that.

I did not think the distillery was a great choice to take the kids to but I tend to agree with another poster on here that a lot of these events and scenarios are set up by TLC producers and who knows what deals were made to promote the distillery and the castle for that matter.