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My husband and I were married in Vegas and I had no problem with what Ben was wearing. Was watching with the closed captioning on, and Amber was identified as "Jubilee." Oof. I am starting to get uncomfortable at the show's contempt for Olivia. Maybe if there was a Big Brother-style live feed I could tell if her cluelessness is more willful, and due to her arrogance, or if it is more due to manipulation, but I think I like this show better when it doesn't necessarily take a hard position on the contestants and instead lets the viewers snark as they see fit. Olivia may in fact be the worst, but it's starting to feel mean. And no way am I proposing a Bachelor live feed. Just making that clear.

I had some of the episode on mute, so maybe it was announced but is there ANY chance at all that the returnee will be decided by America's vote? So that we can get Jackie back and never ever have to adjust the color on our screens again to reduce the contrast between Shelli's orange orange skin and white white teeth?<br /><br />I am proud of John. I think it took balls to not use the veto.

Anyone else calling shenanigans at Austin claiming to be a Claymate? Seems like the kind of thing he decided to do outside of the house to get him a favorable man-of-adorable-contradictions edit.

Or what about (ignoring the host of legal issues) a Big Brother/My 90-Day Fiance crossover? If your American fiance is evicted, do you self-evict for love or stay for the potential money?

Can't decide which is the cutest: Becky's mouse shoes or Steve's scruff. Seriously, maybe it's just me or the lack of competition in the house this year, but Steve looked really good last night. Can shipping Steve and Meg be a thing?

Is it still a thing that the pawns go home? I feel like it has been ages since a legit pawn went home, and yet Steve is still reciting the line. Of course, I'd feel better about being a pawn if I knew who the target was. Interesting strategy by James and Jason: "we don't want to give him two chances to save himself... er, or herself, 'cause it totally could be a woman. So trust me, even though clearly I don't trust you yet." Have not finished the episode due to the golf delay so maybe they 'fess up to their chosen pawns.

It took me almost a full week to make it through this episode (and even then skipping most of it), and the only thing that stood out to me was Sean's Bible inscription to Davina, which began "Davina" (no Dear, or even a freaking comma) and ended "Sean" (no Love, or even Cordially or Best Regards), and, while she was reading it aloud, he read along with her silently, moving his lips, all smug and Sean-y. I have so little free time; why do I punish myself like this?

Ok, the editing in the skin-crawly Mason-Dixon section? Sean talking head: Davina has felt below [edited for creepy content]. Cut to Davina: Big, big things are happening. Ew, show; ew. Is that the sweater Jess gave him for Christmas?

Also, boo to the amateur sex therapist being booted. Now I'll never know if he is an amateur therapist for sex-related issues or a therapist for amateurs at sex. Sigh.

I was so excited for it to be Kaitlyn (there may have been awkward sofa dancing) but if this is the season of the slut shame I just can't.

About Britt's cuddling... I wonder if it is a very calculated move on her part to get more screen time. Like, in her head she is attempting to figure out which of the women will be the focus in any given week. Clearly, this week would be Kelsey, so there she was, all cheek-to-shoulder with Kelsey. I remember she cuddled up to Jillian a lot, too; Jillian's aggressive personality and impressive muscles would also likely have seemed a lock for substantial screen time. I haven't seen her nestling up to Samantha, say, or Jade, or any of the more quiet women.

I also still like Chris, even if he could stand to work on his posture to combat that "aw shucks" bobblehead-with-a-broken-bobble thing he's got going on. But it doesn't really matter who he is or what he says. Kelsey was wrong; this is not a show about Chris. The actual Bachelor is incidental. They probably could use a mannequin (or, if they really like the farmer thing, a scarecrow) and I'd still watch to see 20 women make themselves crazy trying to date it. This season has been pretty amazing. Also, can we just stop with the whispered "hi" after a kiss? Please, Kelsey? It makes my skin crawl.

Has this show done a cross-promotional thing like that Cinderella date before? I can't remember any, and it seemed so very Big Brother to me. At least Jade got diamond earrings for pretending, badly, that it looked romantic, etc. etc. (and apparently did not have to actually watch the damn thing), while the BB houseguests usually just get popcorn and contractually-mandated script readings re. how it was the best movie ever.

Ok, y'all, after Mackenzie's one-on-one date, most of you were quick to judge her harshly for asking Chris if he believes in aliens. I found that to be a really fun and almost smart first date question -the answer could provide hints at a person's thoughts about science and religion and imagination. But after she asked the women the same question last night, followed by her comment that the setting was a good place to be abducted, I freely admit I was wrong to think it was a thoughtful question. She really is just worried about interplanetary kidnappings. What is with the lipstick colors??? Is it my tv?

Omigod, who brought her MOM to the ROSE CEREMONY?? Mackenzie, is your mom here? Oh, that's just poor Trina. I think there is something sinister about the lighting in that house... no doubt Trina is beautiful and young-looking IRL but she looked like she should be playing nickel slots last night. I'd forgotten that she is the one whose biggest date fear, according to her official profile, is getting "di di." Just.... no. Maybe I'm a sucker, but I totally bought that Chris and Whitney actually spontaneously decided to crash that wedding. Something about the way they kept glancing at each other and the cameras had a "are we allowed" vibe to it. Then the producers had to scramble to make it happen... taking them to get changed, get a present (looked like about 5 bottles of Kirkland ketchup to me) and get back... The releases from the wedding guests could always be gotten after the fact.

This was my first episode of this show so it may have been said before, but I could not stop wondering: When did Ian Ziering become a redhead? Was Steve Sanders a bottle blonde?

I don't really get the Mackenzie bashing! She doesn't seem particularly dumb* to me, just so, so young. On her one-on-one time with Chris, she acted like a 21-year-old on a first date - excited and nervous. She bounced around a lot conversationally, but I thought it was adorable, if exhausting. Pointing out Chris's earring hole was cute, and the big nose thing was like something a lot of people say on a date about the other person's eyes or hands or whatever. Also there doesn't seem to me to be anything stupid about believing in aliens or life on other planets or whatever. I would rather date someone who does believe life exists elsewhere than someone who does not. I think she was treating the whole thing more like a real life first date than a date on The Bachelor, which generally involves more deep, involved topics necessary to prove that you are willing to "put yourself out there" and "open up" blah blah blah. *The organic comment from last week was dumb, ok, I admit it, particularly given her son has the same name as a vegetable.

For a hot second, I thought I saw Scott Speedman in that trailer. But IMDB confirmed my suspicions that I am too old, and thus Scott Speedman is too old, for that to be the case. Heartbroken. But on the bright side: someone who looks a bit like Scott Speedman in dim lighting has been cast on this show! Guess I'm in!

I was prepared to dislike Kaitlyn based on her dress (even though it was far from the most egregiously awful choice that night) and her clashing lipstick and the weird field - plowing comment but she TOTALLY won me over with her "who is she?!" comment while picking off the sparkle on Chris's face and now she's my absolute favorite. Even though I didn't get the walrus joke either... I mean, I do, but why would a walrus be into a seal? Does that, like, actually happen? Are there walrus seal babies out there wherever it is walruses and seals live? Sealruses? Ack, this show. So happy it's back.

I wouldn't be surprised if the kids did have jobs and the thousands to bring Mo here, well that's a short term expense for a long term solution. Again, I'm not saying this was a brilliant idea on her part, clearly she has issues, but just that I think in her mind she is putting her children first, no matter the real world results.

I totally agree that the foreigner aspect added something more exciting to the mix, but I also get the sense that her relationships with men of similar age, background, etc. were so bad that she closed that door - nothing good was going to come through it. In this way, my view of her is like Brett's explanation for going to the Philippines to find a wife - American women just weren't cutting it for him after a painful divorce, and American dudes weren't cutting it for her. Why not go after someone younger, smarter, stronger from another country with more earning potential and a longer life expectancy, especially when you have this amazing bargaining chip: a green card? I'm not saying she's not a weepy clingy mess, just that I think a lot of it has to do with trying to make something good happen for her kids, as well as herself.

It seems basically accepted on this forum that Danielle puts her needs above those of her children, but I am not so sure that that is true. (Of course, I am going only on what has been presented in the show and not any non-show stuff.) I feel like bringing Mo here had just as much to do with trying to better her daughters' lives as anything. It sounds like their father(s) has financial issues and is not able to help, and Dani can't find a job to support her family (whether due to educational, emotional or other deficits I can't say), so maybe in some crazy f'd up way, this whole thing is Dani trying to get another wage - earner around, a male role model around, while also securing a little companionship for herself. Yes, it's way creepy to bring a strange man, and a total asshat at that, into your home to live with your teenage girls and for many reasons this was a shit - poor decision all around, but I just really have the feeling watching her take all this abuse and unrelenting criticism, from Mo, from her family, from us, that in her mind she is doing what she has to do for her daughters, that it doesn't matter what she has to endure if it helps her daughters. Maybe I'm being super generous here (also there were moments in the ep she looked almost pretty!), so to balance that out a bit, I think if Mo had bestowed his pickle upon her, she damn well sure would have made that known, just to shut everyone up. Loved how Cassia got so emotional for everyone else.

Lurking (mostly) here has been my maternity-leave hobby, and I am still learning the terminology and protocol, etc., so excuse the question: I have seen several people refer to the posters on Mo's FB page as "heifers." Is that a term like "troll," which now has a meaning apart from a literal tiny monster hiding under a bridge and those who look like said tiny bridge monsters? Like heifers are women chewing the cud of z-list "celebrities" on social media??? note: I also do not know what it means to chew cud. :) eta: sorry if this should be in small talk!!

Dani clearly has serious issues handling money, but I don't question her having that computer. With school-age kids, it's almost a necessity now. Maybe it's even an example of more solid money management on her part?? Get the used but in-pretty-good-shape sofa, rent the bedroom furniture, all so you can get a non-sucky computer for your kids that conveniently may also land you a Tunisian husband, turning your one (or occasionally no) income family into a dual-income powerhouse? Genius! I really wanted to get a better look at her DVD collection, though. I'd expect to see more than one Kate Hudson movie. Cassia was gorgeous without any make-up on.

I know that it's far too late for me to be up when I look at Mo and Dani's wedding photo and think, his boutonnière flower matches her bouquet! They coordinate! He does love her! His excuses are legit! They'll be married forever!!!!! Shipping Dani and Mo is probably a sign of a serious problem... so glad the finale is coming up so that I can put this all behind me and focus on "The Bachelor."