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Maybe Grounder and Octavia share a great great grandmother, whose picture she looks like.

Argh. I desperately need a TWoP-level recap. So confused. Maybe I'm too old for time travel. :( I did love Travis' line to the red haired talk show host about her being a puppet of...what was it? And Kellogg's remark about seeing double. I probably just need to rewatch.

Is Nick saying to Juliette (about Trubel), "She's going to get herself killed," supposed to be foreshadowing?

I really liked that for once in 40 years of female crime fighters, finally one took off her noisy heels while stalking killers. Okay, so she said it was because of how ridiculously high the heels were. And likely it was really because she didn't want to ruin her ridiculously high-priced designer shoes. Still, I was fanwanking that Jo was in her socks too.

If/when we could Like parts of posts (like separate footnotes), I would have liked this part. Just a few bars of Paint it Black for us oldsters would have been nice.

If they cut Grounder with the poisoned knife, he might have chosen to die with his secret. Torture is so stupid. Everyone knows it doesn't work. The only reason it persists is because of sickos who enjoy doing it and/or watching it. If this show is going to continue to feature stupid torture scenes, I'm done. That's why I quit Revolution too. </end rant>

Seriously? *Looks it up* Wow he does. But whoever is Dorothy looks more like him than his fraternal twin sister, who it seems does not act.

Love your screen name, Ghost of TWOP Past! I agree that the show is floundering plot-wise, but no sharks have been jumped yet. Did you not include Lost in your post above because mentioning it has become a kind of Godwin's law in television discussion?

This may be my favorite BBT episode ever, and I've watched almost every one live and many in reruns. Maybe it's because I watch relatively little comedy and so don't need to laugh too much (or at all) if the show has other redeeming qualities. I loved Bob Newhart in this episode. He's a lot like my elderly father. Both will no doubt not live very many more years. I thought it was very bold for everyone involved to do this plot given that reality. Both Bob Newhart and my over-90 father still love a good joke too, so I appreciate why he would do it. Lots of other bits in the episode were great too: The first spherical cake rolling on the floor and Amy's reaction line. The resolution of the marriage proposal discussion. I suspect the cast and writers knew this could be Bob Newhart's last gig, and they wanted to do their best to honor a comedian who had inspired them growing up, just as Professor Proton inspired Sheldon and Leonard and others to be scientists.

Ditto on both. The following orders line has potential for being a classic clip, but I'm not sure it can stand alone without backstory on Deathlok. I was slightly tensing up, expecting the requisite torture bit, but was pleasantly surprised they didn't go there with Skye, although giving Ward a heart attack actually was torture, so: fail.

If they wrote it that they played strip Scrabble, it would at least be plausible, and it would perhaps fix the boring couple a bit, but I'd rather have boring couple than a triangle any day.

After Fringe's colored multiverses? Or not related?

I find this a lot more tolerable than a Ward/Skye twu wuv scenario. I honestly don't know if it's the casting of Chloe Bennet, or the writing and directing for Skye, or the hair and styling, but she comes off as a kid, and Ward is a nearly middle-aged man, so the romance angle is just weird to me. I could accept her having a crush on him, which Ward is using for his dastardly purposes, but anything more than that seems wrong. They would've been 21 and 31 respectively when this was shot, and they make her look no more than 19 and act more like 16, whereas he seems more mid-thirties, with his tough, world-weary persona. At this point, it seems the best out for the writers is if he delivers some soul-crushing line to her about how he doesn't go for kids or something when he admits he was using her.

I didn't think the audience was supposed to think for one minute that Ward's declarations of love for Skye in the restaurant were sincere. I assumed he was still trying to play her, and that was why she wanted to vomit, because she recognized it too.

Yes, but the devices could probably be reached via another network. No? Well, if they continue the Christ allegory, Lucas would be James. But then, maybe he's Luke, who is referred to as a doctor, which would be more like Jedikiah.

Since the network was down, Flounder wasn't able to turn off the kill switches--so they're still on, right? Hopefully Mean Blond Girl will do some new stupid thing and get herself shut off, but preferable not before Russell tells her to shut up.

Yes, but Arcadia was his home. And I think someone else posted the theory that likely his body had been brought back to Arcadia. Arcadia with a river. IDK. Maybe it's the frickin River Styx. Jacob waking up in China seems to be the anomaly.

Which should be the plot moving forward. I mean, this should give Alicia enough nightmares for her to forget Will even walked the earth. But they might drop it for awhile, because, you know, lawyers are too busy to mull. I do think Alicia was drugged, even though we're joking about the wine. Maybe Sweeney even hired Sweeney look-alikes for the party.

Yeah, I was annoyed at this too, but I watch so many procedurals where they do stupid stuff to make a point about something else, that I figuratively closed my eyes, covered my ears, and sang "la la la la laa, I can't hear you," until they moved on from that scene. Or what lucindabelle said.

Best episode in years, IMO. Why do shows always get good after they are canceled? Okay. Possible explanation. This was written and shot after they were canceled, right? So this is sort of like they're all auditioning either for themselves or on behalf of those involved with the show who don't have new gigs yet. The Sister Act singing duet, for instance, is ready to go on the road. And Aaron Ashmore is ready to take the lead in a comedy involving lots of physical stuff. And the emotional side of Saul Rubinek. And they also shared the stage with whoever played the Gypsy grandmother. Great job. Don't know who she is, but I wouldn't be surprised to read in the future that someone saw her here and used her in a similar role--hopefully more than a cameo one-off. Did love the pawn one liner. I thought the princess sounded more like the character of Janice from Friends than Fran Drescher.

Even though I'm not a Marvel aficionado, I happen to be a lover of time travel plots, so I was able to gloss over this video having loved the video that Stargate SG1 sent themselves from ancient Egypt in the Moebius episodes.And, anyway, like ALenore above, Coulson's "Huh" made it all good for me. Okay, now that you mention it, maybe the writers really did think they were inside the SG1 Moebius story, and they used a cloaking mechanism.Edited because I managed to break the software and get a triple post.

I was thinking the same thing and was about to change the Alec 1.0 and 2.0 designations on the Who Killed Kiera thread, but then...I stopped. Are we really sure which one will/would become the supporter of the corporations? I can just as easily imagine Corporate Alec getting disillusioned and walking out. And hoodie Alec might think it's in the best interest of the end game to go corporate.

I lived in the Northern California mountains for 20 years. A 40°F variance in temperature in any 24 hour period was normal. My first couple of nights there in July in a hostel, I had to share the space with a mourning family whose hang gliding son had been caught in a sudden blizzard. Happens every summer. Sorry for the tangent. We're talking about Ontario--where my sister has lived for 40 years. Don't get me started on her extreme weather.Now back to our regularly scheduled episode discussion: I just tweeted that even if you had already bailed on the show, this episode was LOL amazing. The car CGI and direction was perfect: Coulson: I told you to fasten your seatbelt. Skye's hair when they landed. Coulson reaching for the $20 parking fee. It did bug that Skye didn't just let Deathlock kill Ward. I mean, I would've, and Ward would never make out with me (I'm close to twice his age). But that's the way they roll on these network shows. I did enjoy her telling him he was a Nazi. This was not a case of the Godwin effect, because they really are actual Nazis, right?

My guesses would be either a disease for which there is now a vaccine (like diphtheria) or a house fire. I was pretty sure the little girl was a returned when she was playing with Jacob, but then thought it was a red herring when she had a mother there (whose clothing we didn't get a good look at). So, good fake out.

Just popping in to mention that season 2 includes the 1969 episode, which many of us include in our lists of favorites, so maybe the subtitle could somehow reference it. It's also the first season of the Asgards and the first time Jack gets his head in the memory device.