Darknight

Better than David. I hate saying that because a myth lab is awful and he did drugs with her but David is the worse. He killed her dog, treats the kids especially the roll lile crap and is scary to everyone. Keifer is the lesser of the two evils

What an asshole. Fuck Jenelle. I honestly hope she and David just run off and let the kids live without them. That would be the most good thing they would ever do. At least Jace's dad just walked away and never came back. Best thing he has ever done. Jenelle just causes drama and pain

I'm talking about more marketing. Meaning advertising it in a way to get more people to go and for people to know about it. I'm sure good advertising and promotions would reach more people. Right now, their marketing is dead. Well, at least to me. They could do so much to promote SOI.

The one thing she is not lying about.

Well gee I sure would like to earn easy more like this without a degree and for staying at home doing nothing.

I called it. He is not only crazy but will probably murder Jenelle then kill himself. I watch a lot of these crime shows. I thought her other boyfriends were bad.. Keifer would never....

Honestly this sucks. Jenelle should've signed over her rights. I think she did this because she doesn't like being told what to do. She doesn't deserve visits. The courts should terminate her rights so Jace can maybe have some peace in his life.

That's how I feel to. He thinks his daughter is above the rest when in reality she is just as bad and lazy at that. She has flaws just like the rest.

I'm just going to day I wish Jennifer and Neyo weren't judges. Some of the dancers on here I know in real life because my daughters competed against them or did classes with them. Kayla Mak is lovely but none of these judges understand ballet or other styles of dance(with the exception of Derrick) Get a ballet judge. Hip hop judge. Jazz judge. People who know what to look for. I hate seeing the tricks and judging looking for tricks. On a good note. Kings are amazing and brought what the judges wanted

Ugh Nova has my heart. She is such a pretty girl. So is Stella. They should be models.

Guess Jenelle is going to have to work at Walmart now. You know when she shamed her own mom for working there.

I'm so happy those kids are away from these fools. At this point Jenelle should just leave with UBT and never return again. Her kids are better off without her. Sign away your rights Jenelle and David and let the family take them. I can't believe it took a dog for someone to do something. I see many people say without MTV the kids would have nobody to check on them. MTV doesn't care about the kids. They like drama and pimp these kids out. I'm sure if David was beating any of the kids MTV wouldn't stop it at all. They'll film it.

USA federation needs a new marketing team. I mean there could be more people and more fans if you market well..

I saw a video of Lui on SOI. I also saw videos of her quads. They're worse than Eteri skaters. My goodness what is going on? I fear for this girl. Not only does she has pressure she is going to ruin her body. I truly hope if she doesn't live up to expectations that she is not hard on herself. I do like how they tell her back story. I didn't know her father had many hardships but her father does sound a bit overbearing. Maybe the coach Arthur stuff was a joke. I don't understand the need for quads at the junior level at all let alone at 13. At least, Russia can replace skaters at the drop of a hat because of the huge amount of skaters already there. What is going to happen with Liu? I remember when Mirai and Caroline had their little rivalry and everyone saying Caroline was the next Michelle. Gracie was the next Michelle and she was going to win. USA fed never ever learns their lesson. Stop hyping young skaters up and forcing them to do things that will ruin their bodies in the long run. Also, I read a comment from a skating judge who was judging kids at the lower levels. She said she is shocked how many skaters can't hold an edge or they're doing things they're not ready for. They should all remake this photo for the 25 year photo challenge

Did Dawn call her?

Not even slaughter houses do this. Treating them like this can affect the meat quality too. Why do they have pigs anyway? They can't even take care of humans

Who will Ensley be saved by? She was born to two dummies who don't care about her.

What happened to her and Ensley? My goodness did they cut her hair using a kiddie knife?

Big problem I have and big pet peeve. I hate it when people look down or bash the skaters from small federations. They complain about watching them or question why they're competing and say they suck. If anything I root more for skaters from Brazil, Mexico, Poland, France, India,ETC. If skating wasn't so expensive and it was easier to access, I'm sure skaters from these small federations would podium and have a nice career too.

USAFSA is using her. She is going to save ladies figure skating. They do this all the time. Hype young skaters up then drag them when they don't do well and meet expectations. Rinse and repeat. She already has an agent. They've been hyping her up since she was 12. They even sent her to junior worlds to see the Russians and copy them. Clearly they have an agenda. Again, I don't believe in the earlier the better. I can't support this thinking at all. I think it's being used as an excuse and a reason to support quad jumping by kids. Eteri used this logic too. The earlier the better. We all know how that works in her group. If that's the case why have age limits in sports? There are many talented kids who can't compete because of age limits. Why were the age limits changed? All I see is future burnout and too much too soon. Many men don't even learn quads until well into juniors/teen years. So why not allow a 10 yo or 12 yo jumping bean be a senior since the earlier the better. I don't understand the rush at all or why kids must sacrifice their bodies when their career didn't even start yet and their bodies didn't finish growing yet. I'm worried about all of these kids doing quads at their young ages. I know about the child prodigies or the kids who are amazing as a kid but then burnout or have serious issues as a teen/adult. Especially in skating and sports. They already said they're working on quads now and her 3a and triples are ok. She landed three of them at nationals. No need to work on her triples or 3a. Hopefully as a junior they'll call her out so she'll improve. USA federation did nothing to help her when they didn't call her jumps out. Her quads and jumps are also dependent on fast rotation which is very concerning to me. Someone should tell her coach and father to stop looking at Eteri for advice too.

My daughter's dance studio will not allow young girls to go on pointe until they're around age 11/12. Usually 12. They do make exceptions for 11 if the dancer meets requirements but 12 is the age they go by at the studio for pointe. Of course there are other studios who don't follow this rule. We even had some parents leave and find another studio who don't have age restrictions. Some studios allow younger dancers even without proper requirements for pointe do pointe because parents push it or they don't care. I don't agree with starting pointe at a young age. I see young girls 7,8 and 9 on pointe and it makes me cringe. Even some of daughter's dance teachers were shocked. Some professionals don't either that doesn't mean others don't push it or allow it. Even YAGP, the biggest and most prestigious ballet completion in the world changed their rules about pointe work. Dancers under 10, I believe can't do pointe at competitions. There are also plenty of dancers who started pointe work later. Starting out it's about getting use to it and building up your body and ankles.

My goodness. Or course skating is subjective. Of course I'm mad at the judges but Chen won fair and square. Vincent won 3rd fair and square. Hanyu got 2nd. Of course I question the scores but these fans are getting out of hand. The ladies I'm actually more pissed at but those are the results. Tech panel didn't call anyone out so everything was fair I guess. Judges want to see quads and Alina is the OGM and has a reputation so of course she was going to win first if she skated clean or was going to podium. Of course USA federation along with Japan and Russian are big federations with a lot of power. Chen was the best skater on that day. He beat Hanyu. I'm actually surprised Chen/Hanyu have a nice rivalry going on and respect each other vs the fans. The Chen/Hanyu rivalry is actually one I look forward to because both respect each other well. Should scores be all over the place? No? Should some skaters have higher PCS scores than others? No. But going crazy about it and blaming skaters is wrong. Being upset is ok but attacking others is wrong. I've seen fans use death threats as well. If anything blame the judging system.

Mr. Lui sounds like an amazing father but to me, he and Coach Laura aren't thinking long term for Alyssa. Her 3a needs work and some of her under jumps are UR. Following the Russians for jump tech? Coach Laura sounds young and inexperienced. Her father clearly wants the best for her but someone should sit him down and talk about the long term outcome. Especially with all of these expectations on his daughter to carry USA ladies. Which is too much pressure for a 13yo to handle. Stephen's parents sound invested. Too invested if you understand what I mean. Many guy skaters stay in juniors longer than lady skaters. I believe many guys turn senior at 17/18. A few might turn senior at 16/17. So I still don't understand why he needs all of these quads. These kids have talent. I want to see them grow. But I think their talent is being overlooked by the adults who think it's cute and funny for their young skaters to start doing quads and creating buzz before they even hit puberty yet or before their bodies can actually take the pounding of quads. Too much too soon is dangerous. I can understand if you're a Russian lady because competing is cut throat and you need to stand out, but others I don't get it. Let's pray the russian ladies make it to juniors when you're doing quads at 10. North America who thrives on longevity vs replacing a skater every season. Clearly USA federation is using Lui and others as bait to show others we have one too. It's disturbing if you ask me. These are children.

I never said not go for their dreams. They need to protect their bodies. Of course Tara has nothing to say about Liu. She loves the Russians and just like USA federation is desperate to keep up and have the next Michelle Kwan. Nobody cares about these kids. Kids shouldn't be doing quads. Their bodies can't handle it. It does not matter how safe you try to do them. Quads are quads. The pound the body takes is dangerous for a grown adult, imagine the child's body. You can't do quads and not have risks. It's a quad. It's a risk you take. No matter what safety measures you put in place. In dance, most dancers don't go on pointe at young ages. There are many dancers who go on point during their teen years. It's a myth you need to be on pointe at a young age. Even many top ballet schools don't have young girls on pointe. They too discourage pointe work in young dancers. Young girls might not even be professionals dancers if they go on pointe young. There are also requirements for pointe work. A good teacher will never have young girls on pointe not matter how good she is. Their bones have to get stronger and develop properly. We can't keep finding reasons and excuses on why kids should do quads. Well, they want to do it or they need to do them at young ages or they need to follow their dreams. At the end of the day they're kids who don't know better. Their bodies are fragile and growing. The adults and federations should protect them but it seems as if nobody cares. They're child prodigies. They're changing history. It's so cool. Nobody is thinking long term. The research and studies prove otherwise. We already know what these jumps and even spins can do to the body. The doctors seeing young skaters with hip, spine, and knee injuries isn't fake. Tara who was made the poster child for this thing. Of course she said it was worth it because she got a Gold medal at the Olympics. The age limit changed to 15 for a reason. This is a real serious issue. Too much too soon for these young skaters. Many might burn out and not even make it to seniors or a name for themselves. I don't see any reason why children need quads. Especially with poor technique. Let them grow first, develop, and when their bodies are done growing and they have good technique, then move on to quads on by one. That's another issue, these kids are doing may quads and doing the hardest quad first.

Injuries do happen. That's the risks. However, kids still shouldn't be doing quads just because they'll get injured anyway. As for as being good coaches, from what I've read Alyssa's coach is young and doesn't have that much experience. I think allowing kids to jump quads is very irresponsible on the adults and coaches part. I think they should know better. These are kids. It shows they don't really care about their bodies. I mean we can talk about Eteri and the damage she is doing to young kids bodies but we also need to acknowledge the damage other coaches in other countries are doing to kids bodies. That included feds too. We can go back and forth about quads, triples and why training them early is best or not. There is research and multiple studies out there plus doctors who've seen the affects it does to the body. Even skaters like Patrick Chan and others were concerned about the number of quads the men were doing and now the quads the girl skaters are doing. .Quads and triples does wonders to the body. Especially young bodies of kids. We should all remember why skating change the age to 15 and why Tara basically had to retire right after the Olympics plus have hip surgery before she was even an adult. Even Michelle had hip inquires. Alysa Citzny had hip injuries. Evgeni had injuries. Hanyu had injuries. Chen had injuries. All of these people are adults. Imagine what these jumps does to kids? There is just no reason why a kid must learn a quad unless it's for show,money, or you're a Russian lady skater and you need it to fight to survive and risk not even making it to juniors. Both Alyssa and Stephen's parents sound very involved. I don't think they're thinking long term at all. Since parents control so much of their child's skating in North America, it wouldn't shock me if they're also the ones pushing it. Alyssa, her coach, and dad following the Russia's technique is also very concerning.