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Monica 'we need some flatbread ' Mary "you could order your own" lmao They all treat Mary with kid gloves for some reason. She's like that one aunt in every family-the one who, since 'the fall' is always cranky and blurts out insulting and inappropriate things. So, you just stick her in a corner, keep her fed and hope for the best til its time to drive her home.

Ugh hate these forced gushing about your spouse scenes. They knew how to answer so they wouldn't have to pay for it off camera. Totally insincere.

Sai is the one talking in circles. Jessel apologized twice and she's still going on about 'you brought up my mother' Yes, because You used your own mom to pad your sob story. You don't get to cry about it now. Jessel was just trying to find common ground. Sai gets really angry about things she supposedly doesn't care about. The old 'just being honest' and 'I say what everyone else is afraid to say.' Nope. You're just a bitch who Wants Jessel's husband to be cheating on her. I feel sorry for them both nkw. This is a nasty group.

Lets swap Erika and Heather. I'd love to see Dorit licking Heather's boots for money and Erika's probably the only one who wouldn't be afraid of going toe to toe with Tamra.

Yes! That was so weird! She can’t afford better than that dollar store doll? Or a handful of stuffed animals? Bizarre.

Tamra was definitely insulting Emily with her tone and comment ‘she was introduced to Me as a party planner’ she meant it as a put down. But, as usual, she skated by on semantics. Emily looked good at the reunion, but it’s always sad to me when a woman is bullied or shamed into changing her physical appearance and then applauded for it. And saying, “you looked great before” or “you always looked good, but…” the message is clear-you didn’t look good enough before, but now you do. Same for people saying “wow, keep it up!” Aka “you’re less hideous, but don’t stop now!” I’d rather someone say-I’m content with my body, and I won’t starve to fit your ideal. But easier said from someone Not on tv.

It’s so gross to watch Tamra attack and humiliate her ‘friend’ over and over. Then, defend it by saying it’s only because she cares. Isn’t that exactly what abusive partners say? Was waiting for ‘look what you made me do!’ If Jenn takes her back as a friend, she’s a total moron. Even after Ryan cheats and leaves her. It was a calculated, drawn out attack. Tamra always does this, waits until the person is laughing or relaxed and then craps on them with accusations and ‘I know what you don’t know!’ How any of them can defend her, let alone not go postal on her ass, is beyond me. She’ll be back next season crying about her childhood again, and I’ll be fast forwarding through it all. “Fuck you, you cheater!” ”you’re a cheater, too! You were with Simon when you started with Eddie!” D’oh! Reverse direction: ”I don’t care that you cheated! I just don’t think he’s good for you” Sure, Jan.

Get her, Gina! Good for her.

Tamra spent the whole season being endlessly vile, and they're letting her off with some weak 'I'm sorry's shrug. But Heather says some not that bad things, and they want Blood. They just can't stand that she won't kiss their asses or grovel for their friendship.

Long Island Serial Killer- I appreciated the indepth reporting they did on Shannon Gilbert’s case. The other shows about this one never mentioned any of this information. How long the 911 call was, the driver trying to pull her out of the john’s house, that weird Dr who called her Mom saying he ran a safe house for female runaways (& faked a heart attack on tv!? Crazy!!). I believe she was murdered, but not by the one who killed the other girls. That shady doctor did it. Shannon was an episode all on her own. Dave (with Amanda) is telling a different story in this one. Last one I watched/maybe Dateline, he said they had a scam where Amber would bring the guys to the house. She’d have Dave come in yelling “who are you? Get out of here!” After she took his money. Rex Heuermann was one of these guys who wouldn’t leave and Dave had to force him out. Later, Rex called Amber and sweet talked her into another date which is when she was murdered. In this one, he leaves all of that out.

In the previews, they show Hunter saying he needs the empty vodka bottle for work, that he fills it with water? Does that mean he waters down the drinks when bartending? Sorry if this was already addressed. That was weird.

What are they expecting Deep South? Banjos and barefoot people in overalls, eating bbq squirrel on a stick? Like WTH?!

Even Todd said, visiting her when they were kids was like seeing the Princess, so not buying this neglected storyline. She's already setting up the 'woe is me, always left out' angle. Hunter's crack 'don't feel so bad, Angie didn't get anything' was savage. Im sure her step family went back and watched every season of this show when they found out, as anyone else would. So, they know what to expect.

Also, Lisa “I’m not materialistic. My hobbies are just more expensive than yours.” Lol Mary, “just don’t eat your life away.” What a miserable cow she is. She just shows up to look down her nose at everyone, which would be funny if she was even a little clever instead of outright insulting.

I love Lisa’s constant “I work hard!” As she swans around in a fur & sunglasses, watching everyone else work, declaring “Looks great, guys!”

You can't even have a conversation with Monica. You can see her not listening, just waiting to turn it up and suck all the attention out of the room. Pace yourself, woman! I can see why she worked with Jenn.

But, did you guys know that Angie was Greek? Whitney was basically like, 'so, you're still going to be doing all the cookin,cleaning and childcare tho right?'

I think Bryan likes to appear to love old books and chess, but only dips a toe in to make it seem legit. I just got an, 'ooh Fancy books I can display' vs a genuine love for the actual writing in them, but I could be wrong. Its just that comment about quoting the Economist...we've yet to see her get intellectual in any conversations we've seen, but could be editing.

That first challenge, the Mary one, was a hot mess. I was distracted watching, did they send home the one that’s trying too hard to be John with his jokes & such?

I can't believe Jenna told that woman her teeth were fake. But I can empathize. I'm socially awkward myself, and have blurted out embarrassing info in a fit of insecurity that later made me want to never meet new people again. There’s no way Erin would be ok with her husband having sex with Anyone else no matter their gender. She acted like she was game to gain ‘cool’ points, but she’ll make him pay for what he said at that dinner. Sai, ugh, shuddap about your poor childhood. No one cares. You’re stuck up and bitchy Now, so it didn’t teach you anything.

I’m also not a fan of the social media amateur detectives. They don’t add anything to the story except free publicity for their podcasts.

It does hurt Heathers.credibility that she keeps changing her ‘losers’ story. But I still side with her over Tamra (this time) who was just hateful toward her ‘friend’ Jenn this whole season. What’s worse-knowing someone called you a loser vs having your friend shame & belittle you for weeks while doling out tidbits of hurtful accusations the minute you’d let your guard down in front of the entire group for maximum cruelty?

Whomever does the makeup & lighting for the interviews on this show should be fired.

Dateline: Unforgettable S2 EP34-Internal Affairs… this Shannon is a terrible actress. She obviously staged those phone calls. It was like a Lifetime Movie lol

The surest way to know if someone said something about you, is when you ask “Did you say this about me?” and their first response is: “Do you really think I’d say that about you?” yep, you said that.