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I think the person in the grave, with their last dying breath, will beg Felicity and Oliver to forgive and forget. Their death will only having meaning if true love wins. Nine months later we can have an Olicity baby named after? Ha!

Oops sorry! My way might be more interesting.

Okay, I'm really confused. What is a BOP? I thought it was a blowjob or a female who gives head?

I agree, IRL I do research in child development so I would never make fun of a child but this is Arrow and I blame the writers. I do have to say that in our research we have found that people tend to marry those with similar IQ's. That might put a kibosh on an Olicity wedding! There have been a few like Felicity married to someone that might be really attractive like Oliver. I did say "tend" to so please don't hate on me!

I really wish there had been a scene of Malcolm climbing a ladder with one arm and knocking on William's window. Let me in little boy and I'll take you to see the Flash. Maybe he climbed down the roof and scratched on the glass with a Flash puppet attached to his stump! Or maybe he wore a Flash costume. The possibilities are endless.

Samantha (to William) - "I'm sorry I told you your daddy was some unknown random I picked up in a bar. I'm sorry I never taught you about stranger danger. I'm sorry I dropped you on your head and now you are a little slow. I'm sorry I never let you play with other children and now dolls are your only friends."

I've been to more funerals than birthday parties or weddings. What I have found is that colleages and friends attend the wake or viewing. Maybe a service at the church or funeral home but the burial at the cemetery is for family and very close friends. Donna could go to the wake to support QL but not to the burial. She is a new girlfriend and didn't know Laurel. Only if QL was an absolute wreck and needed Donna. Even then my family would think it very inappropriate but they have very old Southern ways of doing things.

I don't think Sara bugged me as much because I watched most of it on Netflix and fast forwarded through the flashbacks. Hell I thought Slade Wilson was Shado's father for months! Even Laurel didn't bug because after the first two episodes I learned to ff all of her scenes. Season 3 I watched live and that was a serious mistake. Now I watch 20 to 30 minutes late so I can skip the flash backs but after the break I may go back to Netflix. A weekend of stupid is a lot easier to take than months waiting for the writers to fix their shit. I think these writers need an intensive and extensive course with a good relationship counselor. They have fractured all these relationships and twisted them to fit the plot. It is all so unnecessary. I always go back to Buffy and the scoobies. That core group was always united against the big bad. There were a few bumps but redemption was always there and it felt earned. The characters had real growth not these silly bad soap tropes. They had action and drama with super heroes and big evil monsters but always at the core was this family of misfits. It had heart and I just don't see that on Arrow anymore.

Sounds like a plan. Sisters before Misters! Or my favorite, "a friend will hire you a lawyer but a best friend will help you hide the body". I know where we can find an empty grave for miss samantha.

I agree. They were sleeping together but it seemed more for comfort than passion. I really liked Sara and I wasn't shipping Felicity with Oliver then. I loved the friendship that developed between Felicity and Sara. At first Felicity felt left out but I never thought she was jealous. Maybe envious that Sara was such a badass but not that she was sleeping with Oliver. Sara seemed to really like Felicity. She made me think maybe Felicity could be the one for Oliver. She knew Oliver needed someone hopeful and light. I wish she would come back to see Felicity and kick Oliver in the nuts. Give him the beatdown his so richly deserves for ruining his relationship with Felicity. Something Diggle should have done! I am so pissed that the relationship between Felicity and Diggle has been ignored all season. He should have had her back during the secret kid reveal. So should Barry. They both should have been loyal to Felicity. Now they're both tainted to me. When Felicity walked out on Oliver all I could think about was where will she go? Who's her shoulder to cry on? Maybe her Mom but I don't trust the writers. I doubt we will get to see much of Felicity's recovery. It will be all about Oliver's pain and his loss. Part of me wishes that they never went with Olicity. I liked the show so much better when it was just OTA catching bad guys.

It just infuriates me that they have tried to portray Samantha in a sympathic light. We are supposed to believe that she lied all these years to protect her son from party boy Oliver Queen. She DID NOT lie to Oliver for ten years and keep this baby a secret. She told him she was pregnant. Bitch bought a pregnancy test and a stack of bridal magazines hoping to be Mrs. Oliver Queen. Once her skank ass came up against Moira she backed down and took off with one check for a million and another million waiting for her in Central City. Two checks. What do you think Felicity would have done in that situation? Told Moria to kiss her ass. Her and Momma Smoak would have told the Queens to fuck off! More importanly, Felicity would have never lied and told Oliver the baby died. Who does that? And over the phone? I rewatched that scene and Oliver put on a brave face but he was hurt. Maybe a little relieved and feeling guilty but he was affected. SA actually did a nice job in that scene. I think Oliver would have stepped up and been a good Dad. Look at how much Thea means to him. Samantha took that away from him. Maybe if she had told the truth then he never would have gotten on that boat with Sara. I'm more than happy to blame Samantha for everything bad that's happened to Oliver. She does not get to play the wounded party. Even Iris's mother on the Flash had to beg for forgiveness and die of cancer for redemption. I just could not stomach Samatha in this episode. I felt no sympathy for her. I wanted to bitch slap Thea, Diggle, Laurel and even Barry for their zero loyalty to Felicity. At least Oliver lost the kid and Felicity. He deserved it but Felicity got screwed by everyone. Here she is leaving physical therapy devastated she still can't walk. She opens her heart up to Oliver that she wants to walk down the aisle at their wedding. What a kick in the gut to hear about the kid and then hear how many people knew. Some of those she thought were her friends. She still put on her game face and was kind to Samantha! That is why Felicity Smoak is my favorite character. She needs to take her new legs and walk on over to Supernatural. I hear they are looking for a new "women of letters" and one weekend with Dean Winchester will make her forget all about Oliver Queen.

If Felicity dumps Oliver then what will he do for money? She would probably still fund the campaign but how about his child support? I would no longer be bitter if Ollie had to go work at Big Belly Burger. Anyone remember when poor Buffy had to work at that fast food place because being hero doesn't pay the rent? I know he will probably win the election and get a paycheck but I so want him to suffer. This BMD has push me over the edge and I extremely dislike Oliver. He really doesn't deserve Felicity. I'm so bitter I wish Felicity and Curtis could have their own spin off and I could quit watching Arrow.

Thank you lemotomato! I suppose to get me through this crisis I will have to rewatch all kisses. Ad space should sell for more dollars right before Olicity scenes since those are the ones I rewatch. As in I know to hit the play button when I see the Campbell's Soup ad. I have my fast forwarding down to an art.

Did anyone notice right before the party when Felicity tells Oliver he has her vote and he leans down to kiss her, his lips are very pink from her lipstick? Before the kiss? I'd like to think they were doing a lot of kissing while getting dressed for the party. Small crumbs of Olicity, I know. But I have the feeling we won't be getting many sweet kisses for awhile. Is there a gif out there to get me through next week?

Ha! I saw DebbieDownerAMovie and MoreUsefulThanAFaxMachine and thought, hey, laurel is finally trending!

Where was Laura Hoffman's husband? Maybe he is in her slow cooker? Maybe she can be the next baddie cause wanna be Sith Lord Darhk sucks and his wife can't even beat brain trust Oliver Queen in a debate! Please stop with all the sweet Olicity gifs! I gotta keep my hate going to survive this breakup.

Since I hate everything about the baby drama, I'm gonna assume mommy has lots of male friends coming around and William has lots of uncles leaving mommy cash on the nightstand. She did have a pretty nice house for a single mom. Too harsh? Nope, bitch is ruining my Olicity. And I can't hate too much on Oliver because I do want Felicity to forgive him after he has really suffered. Also this show is never gonna make me believe that after Oliver "died" Moria would not have taken her beloved son's child away from his stupid ass mother. Her grandchild and her dead husband's too? The last male Queen? Please, I don't think so. She would have had Samantha in court and declared an unfit mother before the death certificates had dried!

Hey Thea, since you seem pretty cool now with these tiny lies of omission, I should probably tell ya I cut your Dad's hand off and he knows about William. Think you could ask him to do me a solid and keep it to himself? Thanks! Are we sure Oliver wasn't adopted cause he is just too stupid to belong to Moria Queen.

The new doctor is young John Winchester from Supernatural. Is it too much to hope he is in PC to hunt monsters? I've always suspected Sonny was a vampire or some kind of ghoul. Carly has to be a succubi. Daddy Winchester needs to get to work and start chopping heads and burning bones.

I preordered mine in November and Game Stop has given me a different release date everytime I checked. I ended up ordering for the same price on Ebay and got it a few days ago. Game Stop offered an exchange but the only Arrow ones left were the Black Canary. I opted for a refund ; )

I changed my cable company and lost all my season 4 episodes. I'm bitter that I am not bitter that they're gone. We've had 9 shows and I was trying to remember what happened. No cheating just from my admittedly poor memory. 1. Olicity omelette sweaty sex. 2. Sara dug up? 3. Sara back Sara gone? 4. Ray back Ray gone? 5. ? 6. ? 7. ? 8. Baby mama horror show. 9. Olicity goodness. Save this one again. What am I missing? Curtis intro. He's okay, kind of a smart mouth. Damien Dark: magic fingers and corn obsession. Mama Smoak & Papa Lance hooked up! Flashbacks: some chick grows poppies or her name is poppy? Shark! What else did I miss? Hells bells it's going to get better, right?

I wish the damn breaks weren't so long then I wouldn't have started reading spoilers. I have ZERO anticipation for the back half of the season. Just absolute dread. Nothing I've heard sounds remotely enjoyable. Instead of being excited I am thinking how long do I have to suffer through this? Do I even want to? At some point I just have to face the fact that this season is just going to be another big disappointment.

If you watch Digg's expression as Oliver pulls Felicity up on stage, he totally knew. Somebody make a gif! Big thanks to everyone adding the clips. I could watch them all again and again. We do have until January 20th to analyze every frame.

.Here's my issue with her. If Oliver was good enough to fuck then he was good enough to be her baby daddy. Birth control fails. Peope lie. Before the panties come off you better take a good look at that person. He could be the father of your child. Same for Oliver. Don't stick your dick in crazy. That could be your baby mama. And we know he has jumped some crazies bitches. You could say they were both young, dumb and reckless. Well if you are old enough to have sex then you are old enough to deal with the fallout. Everyone makes mistakes but you have to live with the consequences. That's life. In my opinion she had no right to lie and say she had a miscarriage. She had no right to keep his child from him for 10 years. She slept with him and she kept the baby. He is the father of that child and she doesn't get to make the rules. That's for family court to decide. She should be asking Oliver for forgiveness not makng demands. As for Oliver I am willing to give him that small grace period to wrap his head around it. Or I am willing to give the writers a very small window to clean up this mess. They are staring to resemble an abusive boyfriend. Don't smack me around one week with the baby drama and then try to make up with a perfect night of Olicity. Right now I don't trust them and the whole is Felicity the one in the grave tease is insulting. I've walked away from better shows than this. Gosh I had no idea I was was so angry about 408 until they gave us a near perfect 409! I better go rewatch season 2 so I can survive the winter break.

Well I really hope it's BM and/or William in the grave because I don't give two fucks about this stupid plotline. This long lost child crap belongs on Days of Our Lives. It makes me so angry I want to bitch slap the fool who thought it was a good idea. But, but, but we have to have the drama! You can't have a happy couple on television. It's forbidden. It's boring. Bullshit! Oliver and Felicity are far from boring. Those stupid flashbacks are boring. Laurel is boring. A ten year old kid is fucking boring! Weak ass lying bitch baby mama is boring. I am running out of expletives, sorry, rant over.