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Probably because Spencer doesn't do stupid shit like targeting people before immunity's even played or accusing others of looking idols after blatantly doing it himself.

Survivor Joe vs Malcolm coming soon to a survivor near you.

The fact is this it's in Kelly's best interest to boot Jeremy then Spencer, meaning that contrary to popular belief, it's in Spencer's best interest to work with Jeremy. So regardless of what the reason was for Spencer's defection, it was in Kelley's best interest to make sure that Spencer had no reaction to his omission from the reward and that he thought that the fake alliance was still a thing. Picking Joe over Spencer was a huge mistake on her part and if she didn't bother making sure everything was alright between her and Spencer then that was an even bigger error. That being said, this is probably all going to be academic since at the moment, Keith appears to be leaning towards siding with Kelley meaning that her side has the numbers anyway.

Don't remember the exact quote but he said something to the effect that each Kelley pick felt like tiny little shanks to the heart.

Spencer's problem is that the majority of the people on that jury was at one time or the other part of Jeremy's brolliance. So far on that jury, the only people that Jeremy has wronged are the same people that Spencer has wronged. Jeremy's biggest problem will be getting to the end. He's at the final seven with no more shields and the other side in power numbers wise. At this point in the game, Jeremy should be targeted by both his allies and his enemies for as long as he remains in the game.

I'm talking about the five he booted the previous week. Joe should've never been picked in the first place. She had the numbers, what damage could've possibly been done by leaving Joe behind with Jeremy and Tasha? By picking Joe with that last pick, she started raising Spencer's antenna the same way that Stephen did last week when he made his reward picks. Spencer felt wronged enough to go elsewhere for an alliance. Kelley can do whatever she wants, she won but by making her picks, the onus fell on Kelley to make Spencer feel safe enough to stick with her, not with Spencer who did what strategic people do when they feel threatened. Why even pick someone you plan on booting anyway? That's just sloppy. It makes sense if you have a large group back at camp, but three people? What situation are you monitoring? the Minority is talking shit about the group in power? Big deal. Besides even if I did agree with that argument, she already left Tasha back at camp so why did she need two spies? His first responsibility is keeping himself safe and getting himself to the final two. If he feels that he's in danger in the next two tribals or the next tribal if Jeremy wins immunity, why should he go along with the status quo? Yea, Jeremy is a jury threat but what good is it getting rid of him if you're sitting next to him in three days?

On a different note. DO the survivor advertisers think that we're sociopaths who want to see somebody get their skulls caved in by a statue? Why would they edit their commercial like that?

If you have to go to somebody after they just wronged you by not picking you for a reward challenge, that's probably a pretty big hint that said person doesn't give a damn about your contributions to their alliance anymore. Considering that Spencer was the only member of Kelley's fake alliance that wasn't picked, I'd say Kelley revealed a lot more then she meant to reveal. Kelley could tell Tasha that she wasn't picked because she was trying to hide the women's alliance but what could Kelley possibly tell Spencer that would justify his omission? It probably didn't help that Jeremy (and probably Tasha as well) was more then willing to rub it in once the other five were at reward. Isn't that following the same reasoning though? By picking out four other people before Spencer, didn't she make Stephen at best look like an outsider?

True, but other then Kelley's last idol, the only way they could even initiate the idol being hidden is to hunt for the clue which Is planted in the same way as the idols used to be. The only real difference this season is that there's a greater element of danger in getting the idol once you have the clue.

Stephen spent most of his time going after Joe and he initiated the Kelly ouster. Off the top of my head, Jeremy formed the brolliance, blindsided Monica ( over Stephen's objections might I add), saved Stephen on multiple occasions, and idoled out Ciera. That's not even mentioning the fact that he's avoided being targeted despite being outted as one of the heads of the broliance. But hey, if you want to punish Jeremy for not having a flashy enough resume, be my guest.

They didn't have to see the clues, I assume they saw the idols when they were being played.

It was revealed in the idol clues. I assume everybody knows now that both Kelley and Jeremy have played one. As for the crazy tribal, my guess is that at f6 either Jeremy or Spencer wins immunity. HII goes on the loser, Kelley plays her HII and none of the votes count. Second time around, we have another tie causing them to either come up with new rules on the spot, either that or the only person without an idol/votes on them goes home in that scenario.

To me , this season is amazing. Has there ever been a season where two brand new (and real) alliances were formed this late in the game. Also at this point, it's still anybody's game. Well except Abi but 6 out of 7 ain't bad.

Tasha is clearly not with the other women and given Abi's history with alliances who knows what's going to piss her off on any given day causing her to jump to another one. I will give Kimmi props for adapting her game to the circumstances. Editing seemed to indicate that she wasn't really a fan of Kelley or Abi yet here she is initiating an alliance with them to her benefit.

He had no choice in the matter. At the beginning of the episode he was clearly buttering Jeremy up for a jury vote, but once the reward c picks revealed he was at the bottom of that alliance, he had no choice but to go back to Jeremy. The female alliance reveal that happened after didn't help matters.

You can win the reward challenge, just be smart with your picks. That keith boot just seems weird. He would make the perfect minion for either alliance.

That has to be the first time that suggestion worked this late in the game. I'm also surprised that Kimmi and not Kelley finaly decided to start an alliance. I remember back when Jenna tried it in Borneo. My only question is does this mean that Tasha and Kimmi have become members of the witches coven?

Wasn't that basically Kelly's strategy on season one once she felt sick of being in the alliance? Yea this ponderosa makes it seem like the jurors are over the experience. They don't seem to be having as much fun as the jury usually does. LOL @ Kass saying thank god you aren't Abi.

Tasha is so great at strategizing that she got blindsided at four tcs in a row. Tasha's definitely more competitive. How many challenges has she won again? Rob is worst, he needlessly treats people like shit on camera then plays the victim when they don't want to deal with him at the finales. I disagree. I'd say that Kimmi's move was a desperation move. Seeing that she was on the bottom, she floated an idea to somebody on the top pertaining to something they had in common and it worked. I doubt that Monica's idea had anything to do with it. Even if they went along with the plan and didn't blindside Monica, Kelly not Spencer was the planned boot. So he likely would've still been there. Mines was Tasha convincing them to boot Joe. Something to the effect of: Tasha: Joe needs to go he can't be beat in immunities. Jeremy: Yes he can. Tasha: How many times have you beat him? and that seemed to be the end of that. He's a regular chandler (hopefully someone gets the reference). Stephen and Spence had the bug too. So Stephen is now resorting to biological warfare to take out his enemies :O That should be a dq. Because he had no choice in the matter. For the time being, Tasha's the captain of the alliance. To try and force the issue would be to force her to the girls's alliance and effectively end his game. . According to Ciera, she had a pretty good working relationship with him. According to Stephen, he also had a pretty good working relationship with Abi and Kelley. These relationships aren't being shown because they don't fit the overall narrative of whatever the endgame may or may not be. How will he transform not being at the bottom and not being targeted despite being outted as one of the heads of the so called power alliance into great strategy? We're in the f7, the boot after Jeremy just got blindsided and he still has no votes. Mind you, most of the damage that he's done in the game hasn't even been done by the broliance. I guess he can win more challenges but I doubt the jurors hold that against him.

Actually Joe's tc argument was that Abi's the goat and if she's the goat, that's one less spot in the finals for the rest of you. I get what Joe was sad about. It does suck being a target and frustrated because you excel at the game. I actually liked the response because it was real.

It pretty much allowed the other three to hammer out their alliance while they were alone. So while it would've been nice to be on the reward with their families, it helped those three out tremendously, game wise. While I agree that it probably wasn't a mistake to tell Jeremy and Spencer about the female alliance I do think there were better times for her to do so. That being said, for the time being, Tasha is the captain now. I'm surprised nobody's got on Joe about his final comment: "boys, best of luck." Stephen celebrating Joe's defeat reminded me of that bring it on scene when the jocks was making fun of one of the male cheerleaders and the cheerleader is all: "Dude, you lost."

Jeremy's wasted idol? The one that booted Ciera? You guys do realize that if he didn't use the HII the womens alliance would have been bigger? A name that was started by another woman, while the amigos named themselves. But hey, let's keep pushing this sexism agenda. How? At best she served as a distraction boot once she hit the merge since she was the least popular person on Bayon. You just answered your own question. Kimmi's woman alliance suggestion was a last resort thing. It wasn't like she proposed one as soon as she hit the merge. I see no contradiction with her being against it when Monica suggested it but using it when she has no other options. I'm starting to think that Abi's one of those players that will just be happy to make the final three I get what Keith did. Just in case Jeremy and Spencer decided to go with Joe, he didn't want to force a tie , so he chose Tasha. It's a dumb plan, but I get it. Joe had some decent arguments this week but in the end, he was always going to be too big of a threat to survive this vote. Kelley, your first three choices for reward weren't bad. But that fifth choice? Joe over Tasha(girl's alliance) and Spencer ( other alliance), that was just sloppy as shit. It pretty much pushed them back into Jeremy's arms. Tasha if you don't want people to get paranoid before a vote then don't tell them of other alliances being formed. I swear Spencer has the worst luck in this game. Every time he looks like he's going to have options, someone pulls the rug out from under him. Jeremy way to recover. It's crazy that you're still not being targeted. However, you can start winning challenges now.

How? .She's obviously not in any of the girl's final three plans. If she goes with the girls, she's playing for fourth which I thought was a bad thing. She just straight up telegraphed both Tasha and Spencer's importance to her when she made the Joe pick. It's not that hard to see why they'd look elsewhere for options when she's being so blatant about it. That being said, that Keith boot isn't looking too smart next week for Spencer and Jeremy. WIth Keith gone, they have to know that they stand a 50/50 chance of being targeted. It would be interesting to see if at the 6 that either Jeremy or Spencer has immunity and Jeremy puts the hii on whoever doesn't have it while at the same time that Kelley is targeted but plays her hii. I wonder what the rules would be at that point.

Not really, she was just answering a question she was asked. That author appeared to be trying to instigate some stuff. Hell, she defended Andrew in another interview.

They could but I can't see it happening here since I can't see those three being dumb enough to put a target on their back by doing such a thing. Not discounting it, but seriously doubting it.