Sunshine

Wrong thread again. My apologies.

Sorry spoilerphobes. I was in the wrong thread and didn't realize it.

The real question is big break up scene/kid reveal or Darhk crashes the party again? Any other options? It is a sweeps episode afterall. Public proposal so public split? Large gathering of people. Something is bound to go wrong.

CR posted a selfie with SA. Are we sure it's not a campaign celebration?

Hmm...Perhaps someone hires Anatoly who is familiar with the islands to look for the boat and it's occupants? I honestly don't know. I just wondered if Nykl was coming back as he was in the Stargate universe. No guess on other actor.

I guess I was thinking perhaps Anatoly didn't manage to get very far and he's still stuck on the island somehow. Oliver comes across him, possibly saving his life again in the process. They have to do some nasty things to defeat the bad guys and Oliver travels to Russia with Anatoly at the end of S4. Cue Bratva in S5.

You don't think it's possible that Poppy and the dear departed Vlad could tie back to Anatoly somehow?

How about the guy who played Anatoly - David Nykl. He was in Stargate Atlantis. Maybe it's the beginning of Bratva in flashbacks?

One of Felicity's characteristics is that she hates mysteries. 2 wrongs don't make a right but I wouldn't be too upset if Felicity investigated Oliver's activities and discovered the secret on her own. She could be trying to protect his campaign. LOL! I'd also like it if she found out before tomorrow night's presumed proposal. It just wouldn't have the same dramatic effect as her dad dropping the info on her though and then they implode.

4.10 Started shooting about 10/28. On 10/30 someone asked SA for a random dialogue tease about the scene he was shooting. He teased "We had a deal!" IIRC most guesses on here (including mine) were Malcolm. Based on what we know about 4.09 I am now guessing it's Baby Mama. If protecting her son is her #1 goal, why would she let Oliver anywhere near William after the events of 4.09?

I have to wonder if people are afraid to comment. The FB picture/post has 100,000+ likes but only 1400+ comments.

I can't link on this device but it was a Dec 4 twitter response to a question from @alwaysbett.

I meant seasons plural. Series works too.

I am in through at least 413. I think Donna Smoak coming back confirms that Calculator is Felicity's father. I can't quit with that on the horizon. I also have to keep reminding myself that Arrow's recurring theme throughout the seasons (series) is "secrets & lies and their consequences" which helps to keep my expectations low. Thanks @Password.

DD has threatened her to Quentin several times. Has Diggle had any anvils?

Based on @apinknightmare I assume I remembered backwards. I thought it was 409 they were playing with the flashforward hints. Just an assumption I made.

New OTP = Ollie & Willie Queen? (Wollie?) Argh The theme is family. The one you are born into or the one you choose? Diggle: The one you choose Oliver: Blood?

Nor is Quentin. They are all potential victims-only one bites it in the end. I was thinking more elimination than casualty. I believe they said they were possibly playing with who is safe in this episode. It would remove Laurel from speculation.

So, if Oliver and Laurel (since she's not at the party) are on the outside of whatever, is that the shows way of saying you can mark Laurel off the grave list? If the Oliver & Felicity break up is temporary my guess is that is when Oliver & Poppy hook up in flashbacks (Feb sweeps).

I love Oliver & Barry scenes! Ship whomever you like!

I wonder if baby mama asks him not to tell anyone. He's already mentioned it to Barry after seeing the kid (maybe in shock). Maybe she overhears Barry & Oliver talking and confronts him. I don't see Felicity being overly concerned in the moment about who else might hear. This way everyone else finds out too. Some of the words to describe Olicity were poignant, mature, changed, heartbreaking. I guess the child/baby mama is the "seismic shift"? Knowing these EPs, I wouldn't be too surprised if it looks like Oliver & Felicity are separating at the end of 4.08 only to have them work it out beginning of 4.09 in order to disguise the proposal in 4.09 before the accident/abduction in 4.09. I am all for @apinknightmare's scenario of him wanting to keep his distance and her upset because of her father abandoning her. I guess it's too much to expect Baby Mama to be married. IF Felicity is in a wheelchair for awhile she might push Oliver away. Of course that would mean he and Baby Mama would grow closer. I would prefer a Baby Mama doesn't want Oliver to be around William so more of a "fighting for access to your son" story. It would give scenes to Anna Hopkins that don't have to be romantic. At this point a triangle might be the final straw for me. Who's in the grave might not matter.

They were listed alphabetically (SA, JB, EBR, WH, DR, CR).

I think they said after the interview that they had enough material for 4 videos.

I think it's her standard non-arms crossed posed, maybe from modeling. For reference see Oliver & Laurel enter Thea's hospital room in 4.5(I think) among others.

Isn't that poster from masks, masks, masks (TCA's Jan 2015) so Sara, Hawkgirl, etc had to be added after the fact? It's not new. It's just been enlarged and CW is treating it as new.