shelley1234

Sadly it is quite typical these days....and I'll sound real old right now...amongst the youngsters. They write cryptic debbie downer drama tweets or FB statuses....to get attention. I see it on my FB wall all the damn time. Blergh. That got me thinking....no one in the Teen Mom fam has their kids take the bus to school...that we see. They all get driven and dropped off. Is that because production likes the drop offs? Or because if they were bringing them to the bus stop area that there would be more issues with access and other kids... I know that all the schools don't allow filming at the school, so maybe the same would be within a certain distance of the bus stop area, etc.

Word. While I know the statistics of conception when you have an IUD....I also know 2 people personally that got pregnant when they had IUDs. I was shocked to hear about the first and then the second....dayum! Neither were even remotely close to the date when they need to be removed either.

That was adorable. Corey really gets kids and also understands that it isn't Addie's fault that Leah is her mom. I also think that Corey picked the person out of the whole lot that he would rather communicate with most...Leah...nope...Dawn....nope....Addie...yep, let's play peek a boo. I agree. I think that conversation was way too adult for Jace. If she doesn't want to send Jace to see Jenelle anymore than she needs to make that choice, but that conversation was just all kinds of wrong to be doing that. I could understand Barb being concerned about his behavior coming home from the last visit, but she was putting way too much on his shoulders there. Not great parents Barb. It seems more typical these days. They don't want the log jam of all the cars stopped to walk their kids in the door....so this keeps things moving. It did seem weird in the dark.

Yeah, Leah is totally asking loaded questions and continuing to try to ask her girls about their week and them making the conclusion that it was a bad week and that they desperately miss her. Kids will look to answer the way you want them to...so the girls will say things about how much fun they have with Leah (because in moments, I am sure they do), but that doesn't mean what Leah keeps making it out to mean. And even if she is the fun mom (I would still say in clips we have seen that they have more fun and do more actual stuff with Corey and Miranda, but whatevs) that doesn't mean they want to be with her full time. She's exhausting just to watch her...I can't imagine being her kid, living in that kind of environment.

I noticed that none of the girls looked well styled at The After Show and have noticed it a bunch of times they have one. I'm gonna go ahead and blame whoever does their hair and makeup at MTV. They are all often styled to either look way older than they are...or with hair styles and makeup from the 80s. It's bizarre. Ladies...do your own hair and makeup. Advice from Shelley.

I forgot this week had two episodes. I'm not gonna follow the rumor train of Kail having an abortion unless there is more than it just being some internet trolling on FB. Especially since I don't think Kail is that great an actress, especially with her on the after show. I also do hope the current state of her marriage is kaput because Javi is such a prick. She is no peach, but she deserves better than that. Isaac and Lincoln deserve better than that.

That isn't what I saw it. I saw him still being pretty prickish. It wasn't as horrible as he was in the RW van, but that isn't saying much. Leopard doesn't change its spots.

I don't think it really matters whether Jo paid rent or not when he lived with his parents. I don't think it says anything one way or the other.

He reeled it in?? I think you and I were watching a different show.

Well they SHOULD go through the courts...doesn't though because Jo begs and whines to Kail to not do that. So they work out a deal on the side because Jo doesn't want to pay what the courts would order him to. I do family based social work...and I often recommend to both parties to have the agreement done through the courts because then it is another party deciding, etc. However Jo has had a tantrum anytime there is mention of going to court for an adjustment....so that's on him.

I do agree that looks to be a pretty expensive ring on Vee's finger from a guy who whined to Kail that he didn't want to go back to court and have to pay a bunch more in child support "because I can't even take care of myself." I guess when he wants to...he can find the cash, just not for child support.

Yes and no IMO. I think he is basically the same guy, but he seems to be doing things to her to show her how much he isn't into her. He made the point of telling the camera that half the reason he brought that girl home and hooked up with her...was to show Kailah a message that he isn't all about her or into her. "I think I made my point to her, didn't I" or something to that extent. And he was always kinda crazy and all about sex before, but his behavior in the van before he brought the Kia girl home...telling the cameraman how much he is looking forward to fucking that girl on camera and hopes he is the guy filming it...and then the pelvic trust for effect. I don't remember him being that guy in the beginning, but maybe he always was...and we didn't see it. Maybe he always was and Kailah didn't see it until it was too late and she had already given it up to him. I do think she'll get over it and lesson learned. And she is probably embarrassed realizing it is on tv as proof that she made the choice to get down with that guy. Heck, we've all probably done stuff with people that in the light of sober day...we regret and most of us don't have tv proof of it.

I also kinda get why Kailah is turning all crazy ex girlfriend with Dione. It's when you hook up with someone before you even really know who they are...and then in the light of day you realize what a monster dick hole they are...and you have to resign the fact that you fucked that. Oh well. It's your bed. You laid in it...with Dione. Gross, but that's on you.

I think it could almost be a dysfunctional best case scenario if Jace just tried to constantly relive trying to get his mother love by trying to date emotionally unavailable women....given his early trend to lash out in violence when he gets upset, it has the potential to be a lot worse.

Until proven otherwise....Chris wrote that blog post. I don't know why it's such a big deal though....the interwebs found out how vile Jenna is before they saw it on tv. What a difference from a show like this and Big Brother...where you won't find out how much people actually can't stand you until you get evicted and they boo you while walking out to Julie.

I don't think Jenelle actually wants to be a mother or do the things a mother needs to do. However I think it is more complicated than just trying to hold on to her men. I think, probably because of the show, she wants to be seen as a mom or more importantly as a good mom. Jenelle is always saying, "Gawd Mom Jace doesn't do that when he is with me." "Jace doesn't act up at MY house..." when talking to one of her 'looking for a paycheck' friends. She is in such desperate need to be seen as someone capable at being a parent...when clearly she is the farthest from it. I think that if Jenelle was never picked to be on Teen Mom...Jace would be living with Barb full time and Jenelle would see him a couple times a year, but she never ever ever would have tried to get him back. She wouldn't be bothered.

Unfortunately the idea of adoption for Kaiser would never be an option. She got preggers with him on purpose...she said because she wanted a family with Nathan. I think she wanted to prove to the world she could be a good mom. Sadly, she's proving the opposite.

I'm not a huge fan of Tyler, but I feel like he can't win here. If he didn't go or didn't go often enough it would be that Tyler didn't care about Cate enough, but then if he goes 3 times then it is overkill. I know that it really varied when I used to work in a job that would send people to treatment. Some people had no visitors, some people had people come once while they were there and some people had important people come on a weekly basis. I do hope at least one of the times he went that they did some kind of joint session to talk to Tyler about what Cate is going to need from him to do differently or how he can best support her when she gets out.

I think it would just mean the dads would have to pay less, but that they would still be required to pay something. I know support varies state by state, so I looked up Delaware and here is a link to some info: http://courts.delaware.gov/family/ http://courts.delaware.gov/family/support/index.aspx I know someone else will remember....doesn't jeremy pay Leah something ridic like 1700 a month for child support?

Just to confront this a wee little bit. Depressed people can gravitate to social media. It is a way for people who are depressed to still try to reach and connect with the world. In the MH treatment model...the inclusion of social media in the last decade or so has often caused therapists and treatment providers to change the way they do their work. From my own personal experience, I was profoundly depressed a few years back. I was at times suicidal. I absolutely still used social media during that time. It was my attempt at trying to connect with family and friends when I wasn't able to do in person...and also to just try to feel normal and get some positive feedback back from people. I spent more time on social media when I was so depressed I couldn't see my way out then I did at any other time in my life. It was the one place at times that I felt normal...or at least that I didn't want to end it all. For people like Cate and Tyler it might even be more so. They get a lot of positive interactions on twitter and instagram and what have you. From looking at their pages...the positive well outweighs the negative. It is a place to go if you are looking for positive affirmation and to feel good about yourself when one is suffering from depression.

Ugh. Basically all of these ladies are the worst....except Chelsea. The fight between Kail and Jo was unfortunate. They both have such impulse control with one another. It's too bad Isaac needs to see that. I think Kail is judgmental. I think she grew up the gross, dirty girl and is so afraid that is going to be thrown Isaac's way, but that's no excuse. I also think she needs to look at what she brings to the table. Her convo about the fight with Isaac was also unfortunate. She know she played a part and yelled at Jo just as much, so don't play like it was just Jo. But you know who I dislike a bajillion times worse...Javi. He's such a manipulator...and enjoyed stirring all that up and then yelling from the car (while Isaac was right there) like the big man he is. If I was married to him and he told me he was going overseas....Bye Felicia would be my response. I'm totally Team Chelsea when it comes to posting any kind of nekkid pictures of kids. While I am sure it was totally innocent...the world is not innocent and your kid is kinda famous because of the show. Chelsea though is going to need to find a way to co-parent with Adam. He is her father and whether it is for the cameras or not, he seems interested in maintaining that relationship. Chelsea needs to stop grilling Aubree though and putting her in the middle. Jenelle. What a waste of a human being. She goes from 0 to 100 with guys in about 2 seconds and of course, always brings her kids along for the ride. Poor Jace. He looked so uncomfortable when Jenelle was asking him where he wanted to go for Christmas. The new guy is a trainwreck....and come on, no one believes that he has never seen Teen Mom. Puh-lease! and whoever asked above...tinder used to be for people who just wanted to hook up/bang while OkCupid was for dating, but it seems to have changed and Tinder is for dating just as much as OkCupid. Tinder is connected with Facebook and it will tell you if someone you matched with has any mutual friends on FB. It's a nice way to get the low down from a friend if you see someone you like, but of course...don't know. Leah. I have no words for Leah. Except thank goodness the girls are with Corey. She did seem super high during the whole episode. I also get crazy mad every single episode when they show her driving her kids around while texting. She is so reckless and i hope that nothing happens to those girls as a result of her carelessness.

Nah, just sharing what my opinion is. I have no need to win the war of opinions. But I'm done with this bizarre defensive exchange as well.

I didn't insult you in any shape or form. I shared that I felt that was old fashioned and also added I believe it to be sexist that a man isn't a man if he isn't providing for the women and children. I don't agree. That isn't an insult, it's an opinion. And whether Kail is a known liar or not, I believe I saw the episode with her mom watching her son while being drunk on the show, so I'm gonna choose to believe that. No worries. I am glad her suck of a mom seems to be out of her life and no longer on my tv.

I think if you asked Kail...she'd say it was a mistake to allow Suzy to be alone with any of her children and doubt she will make that mistake again. And I'll say again...getting drunk while watching your grandchild is not being there for your child in any shape or form. Nor is the many times she has just disappeared from Kail's life. Many children aren't able to disconnect from a toxic parent and I am happy that Kail seems to have been able to do that. And yep, I do consider a man needs to get a job to provide to be old fashioned. I actually think it is sexist. As a woman I don't think it a man's job to provide for me, I can do that all by myself...and in the same regard, I don't think it is the man's job and his alone to provide. I do think if you have children (both parents) you should be able to provide for them, but that has nothing to do with gender IMO. Jo's constant whining that Kail should not bring him to court for child support is a problem and means he probably should go get a job, but IMO that has nothing to do with the fact he has a penis.

The warden is also clearly corrupt and I think he wanted the "goody two shoes" Gordon out of his prison, so that he doesn't decide to blow the whistle on the shenanigans going on there like he was once hell bent on cleaning up Gotham City.