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You pass a drug test by getting whatever drugs you want prescribed by their doctor...just ask Leah.

Camilla made me laugh with how indignant she got...when she knew what she did. And she had the audacity to be all like....I AM SO TIRED AND HAVE BRUISES...AND THEY DIDN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING! Yeah, no shit sherlock....cause you took their key and so they couldn't move on because YOU TOOK THEIR KEY. While I understand that Johnny and Wes no likey one another....however he has no loyalty whatsoever to Nany??? And he wants to talk to Sarah about loyalty? *rolls eyes* If I was Johnny....I'd keep some Real Worlders around because if you don't....one of the new Are You The One kiddos will decide to make a big move and take you out. Hope Thomas' girlfriend is doing well. I also agree that Vince was allowed to stay because his violence was basically attaching himself to Thomas and pushing him on a table. I expected worse. I initially thought they were horsing around and pretend fighting because who does it THAT way. Vince does. He even fails at trying to intimidate and fighting people.

To me, it's all the same. It's attacking what someone looks like. Both are petty, but one isn't above the other. It's attacking where they know someone is sensitive and laughing at someone's appearance to mock them for your own amusement. I am not gonna trash Nathan for hurting poor little Jenelle when she has shown she is perfectly capable of doing it the same. It's classic Mean Girl behavior and they could teach classes in how it is done.

It's funny...but it also shows that Jenelle is just as willing to go for the cheap low blows as Nathan is....so forgive me if I'm not feeling so sorry and bad for her that Nathan was mean to her and made fun of how much weight she's gained. She does the same, so goose...gander.

It isn't a lot, but there are a couple of quotes from her dad in there... http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/jenelle-evans-parents-father-robert/ Doesn't know how to get a hold of her. LOL. Just means he can't be bothered enough to try.

She had relationships with women and men...and choose on the show when asked not to define her sexuality. She got married last year. To a guy.

I agree. I think Barb made her and now has to deal with the monster she made. I think that Jenelle's upbringing was made WAY worse by having MTV come into her life, her fans and having no consequences for her behavior, but those things didn't create her, Barb did. I also think it is telling that Barb's other kids have had their problems as well. One baby apple....fine...but the whole bunch??? Maybe it's not just random and maybe it's Barb and how she raises her children. And let's be real...while she is a million times better than Jenelle at taking care of Jace, she is still doing things that are going to be damaging to him long term.

She denied being preggers with Kaiser??? I thought it was planned and she and Nathan were actively trying....so much so that she got a false positive thinking they were pregnant, when in reality it was what was left over from her abortion. When did she deny she was pregnant with Kaiser???

Yep. Wanting someone to get consequences for their actions is a far cry IMO from saying they deserve to be abused...to be bruised and bloody because they deserve it for what a shitty person they are. Jenelle is a shitty person. She's a shitty mom. She's a shitty daughter. She's a shitty friend. She's a shitty partner. She's a shitty member of society. She picks shitty partners. Doesn't give someone cause or the right to abuse someone....even shitty, horrible people. I do think Jenelle should be in jail and if it wasn't for Teen Mom, I think she would be. Someday if she doesn't change her ways and doesn't look to better her life and situation, her luck will run out. I also think David should be in jail for what he did to the mother of his last child. No question about it, but unfortunately it looks like nothing much came of it.

As someone who is also pro-choice....I'd say that an abortion, if that is what she did, would be the more compassionate choice than having another child. But that's probably a debate we don't wanna get down and dirty with. I do wonder about that because aren't the reunions taped in front of a live audience? If Jenelle said she had an abortion....I can't imagine no one would be tweeting that out to the masses.

Yep, they weren't in a great place anyways and then to have him blame her and treat her so shitty for having a miscarriage....I wouldn't be hopping up and down to get preggers by that guy again. I don't agree with him. You can't call yourself Isaac's dad in one breath and then coldly say "he's not MY kid" in another cause you are mad and having a tantrum. That's not fair to Isaac. Either do it 100% or not at all. And I hope Javi did pick up on it. She doesn't want to grow her family with a guy who will pout and tantrum and have a fit every time his wife doesn't do what he says. She's cutting her losses instead of adding another baby to that shit show.

Yep....that is what I heard too. When she said she didn't want to be a single mom to 3 kids....and then added in "if you get deployed again"....she is talking about life in general and not about him being gone in the military. Kail is a brat. I wouldn't want to be dating her. However, I give her credit for seeing the writing on the wall and not being one of those people (looking at you Javi)...who thinks a baby is gonna fix a failing marriage. She isn't going to add yet another child to a marriage that looks destined for divorce court.

I also wonder to the person who tweeted to Kail that she shouldn't talk about while he is deployed....what should she placate him and lie to him if he brings it up while he is over there???

My response to the above quoted.....since I couldn't get it to put my comments there and was an editing fail. I do think that Jo is adorable with Lincoln. I think that Jo and Corey have both shown a real affinity with the kiddos that aren't theirs. They really get that it isn't the kid's fault about their situation or who their parents are. I also got the sense that Javi was expecting Kail to fight harder to not start divorce proceedings. Instead she was all....alright, let's get this party started.

Jenelle was so happy when Uncle Dave was telling Babs what he will and will not allow to happen. Warning Jenelle....you won't be so happy when he is turning that around on you and letting you know what you can and cannot do and what he will and will not allow. That dude is scary. Did they show the kids eating the raw hotdogs and I missed it? I saw the grill outside...and I assumed that she was giving them the hotdogs to bring out to have them put on the grill. Or maybe I just wanna hope that is the case. Jeremy hasn't chirped anything on social media about Leah saying he wanted to get back with her. Hmm. I do wonder if he wasn't with anyone...and was horny...that I don't question that he'd show up to Leah's when he knew they weren't filming to get himself a little something something. ETA: Jeremy has deleted his twitter. Damn, I like the real life current timeline drama, including his stupidsauce rants. How dare he take that from me??? I have always thought Javi wants Kail to continue to have babies as a way to control her. I think it's why he wanted her pregnant while he was deployed. Hopefully those two make the divorce official soon and can just move the fuck on with their lives. I do think that Javi will quickly learn that the attitude and judgment he had of Jo...is short sighted. I also really feel for Isaac...while I think Kail and Javi are toxic and need to be done with one another, that poor little boy. Chelsea. She's adorable and totes normal. Nothing to see here.

Javi is a pushover? I personally disagree. Javi is a manipulative emotionally controlling fuck. Can't wait til they decide to make the divorce official because then hopefully he will not be on my TV much. Hopefully he'll get as much screen time as Nathan....aka...barely any.

That's fine. And I am saying what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Kail isn't doing Javi dirty while he is being a saint while he is away. Far from it. Sounds like they both have moved on from their relationship in the current timeline.

Doesn't sound like Javi can wait either with posting pictures of himself everywhere with that chick....also including a snapchat pic of him and said girl snuggled up in bed together. But I am sure there is a reason why Javi stepping out on Kail is also her fault.

I agree. I think she is attractive as well. In comparison....I think Simone is much prettier than Ashley. Both of their attitudes and personalities....ugly.

She also has shown numerous pictures that are current that show her tummy...and it doesn't look like a preggers tummy. Of course, it depends on how far along she is, but it was a sharp contrast to the pictures seeming trying to hide her belly because people assumed there was a bump growing there. I'll just keep hoping and praying that she's not preggers....for her, for the baby, for humanity at large.

Go over to the Real World board...it's chuck full of racist shade and racist apologists. It's pretty nauseating. I have also heard ratchet used to describe people who aren't black...basically people and things that are a big ol' hot mess.

Especially when you add in someone being a problem drinker...it can absolutely increase the progression.

Given Nathan's behavior....I think it would be hard to say his PTSD and other mental health issues has gotten much better. And yes, he does get paid for working with a semi-pro team, but that should not be a factor with his VA benefits. If he didn't show up...that would cause them to be discontinued. If he showed, I imagine he would still be getting them.

Yep. If Nathan was getting social security disability...he'd lose it with working the couple of jobs we have seen him do since he's been on the show, but VA disability is a completely different animal.