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Here is what Carole wrote last week in her blog: Spoiler Alert: What would you do if your friend called your boyfriend, secretly behind your back, and asked him to go to Houston with her? Yeah, that happened. Stay tuned next week for As RHONY Turns…but let’s begin with this week. I do not understand the continual miscommunication between Bethenny and Carole. Now I am back to I can see where Bethenny was defensive. Then again I wonder if Carole was intentionally creating a stuff to make Bethenny out to worse than she is. Or if Carole was lied to my Adam. It kind of reinforces why Bethenny would ask not to be called Honey. That was not exactly a pleasant conversation.

Skinnygirl is getting old and right around the corner I do believe we will see Bethenny get called out yet again for her over doing Skinnygirl et al. These women have a fine line to walk-they need to be 100% supportive of another's product and at the same time respect the others' adventures be it a book (like Ramona) or a cabaret act like Luann. Although easy to take jabs at a book or an act, it is just as protected as Skinnygirl, a skin care line or a vegan chef. Carole last year started a fire in a non-working fireplace, smoked the place out and used door stops for kindling. I think her damage was right up there with Ramona's. Dorinda wants to be the center of attention always. That is why she puts up her beloved manor every year and subjects it to these women. The game became meaningless once the attention was off of her. Plus she was drunk, as usual. I have resigned myself to the idea, the conversation Bethenny had with Carole about Adam being an "operator" was not connected to Adam's declination of the Houston trip. Perhaps the mash up is in Dorinda being the messenger. Chances are excellent, as Carole dropped a big clue, one of her friends is someone involved in the B Strong movement, that someone other than Bethenny made the contact with Adam and the results were reported back to her. I don't think Bethenny would make up a conversation about telling Carole she thought Adam was an a operator and again I do not know why Carole would expect Bethenny or her partners, employees to contact her to get a donation out of Adam. Now we had Dorinda talking about Adam, cooking and Puerto Rico. Perhaps since three key pieces were incorrect, Carole should have pulled her punches and asked Bethenny for her version of the story instead of calling her a liar. Well mystery solved here is Bethenny's account: On Dorinda claiming she was not aware of the dinner in Miami: So it is a little more than minutia or semantics, Bethenny simply received a report back from her relief team. Interesting.

Sonja's Kitty has happy new home: http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/unleashed/we-talked-to-owner-of-sonja-morgans-cat

Here is what I do not understand-once Carole asked if Bethenny was mad and Bethenny said she wasn't-what was the point of going on? I think Carole was putting the onus on Bethenny when Bethenny had pretty much reached the place of indifference. I am agreeing with you, it is just that I thought Carole should have told Bethenny she was angry with her over what Dorinda had told her and maybe be upfront about what Dorinda said. I hate these RH arguments when they devolve into."I love you," it is so fake and so phony I want to puke and these women should be ashamed of themselves for even going there.

Bethenny's downfall was trying to take sole credit for all the individual relief efforts. I am sure every single person she reached out to was appreciative. I guess when you jump in the middle it seems as if you are the only one working.

"I am pissed at you right now and I want to know why." If you are the one who is pissed shouldn't you know why you are pissed not the person you are pissed at explaining why you are pissed? No one should ever take Dorinda seriously.

The whole thing boiled down to Carole loving Bethenny more than Bethenny loves her? Dorinda stirring stuff up. . . again. The story Dorinda told Carole wasn't terribly factual. There was no cooking, no Puerto Rico or any mention of Carole coming up short in the cash department when it came to donations. It looked to me like Dorinda was going to get even with Bethenny for calling her a drunk. Need new material, Dorinda. I get that Carole has to be condescending to Bethenny because that is what she understands-but Carole has never called Bethenny "honey". Carole was essentially asking Bethenny what was amiss between them and then would not let any answer stand. I heard Page Six and all I can think of is Sonja, Dorinda and Carole have all been on Page Six TV. I don't think Sonja spilled the beans I do think it was Dorinda for the reason Bethenny stated-she was the one Bethenny spoke to. Dorinda gives interviews all the the time to Page Six and whoever will interview her. She had an interview with Page Six the end of December. I get Carole and not dealing with the minutia but what is it she wanted from Bethenny her friendship, an explanation, an apology? I would not have gone about it the way Carole did as she continually called Bethenny a liar-never a good move. I believe Bethenny felt someone was feeding the press and exacerbating the rift. Okay are saying, Carole at that moment was saying Adam did not ask for compensation or Carole was pissed, Bethenny brought up the request for compensation situation to Dorinda? Or Carole was unaware he had asked for compensation. I will be interested to see if Carole had a single issue in the moment. If it is not about the compensation what is it about? (The obvious is Bethenny can be an obnoxious jerk.)

To me, the issue is Carole has tired of Bethenny and needs a reason to break up. It is okay Carole lots of us had to break up with Bethenny. Carol doesn't have to mount a offensive against Bethenny just do what they all do and refuse to film or go to events-just like Bethenny did last year to Ramona.

In describing what was causing the divide I do think it was necessary. Since Bethenny obviously discussed it with Carole previously and Carole just said they were all operators, I am not sure why Carole thinks it is a big deal. Dorinda Meddler was the one saying Adam's behavior was unacceptable. It sounded to me as if Adam was given a date and responded that he wanted to go and then after hearing there was no compensation, he developed a work conflict. It would have been better for Carole just to say he had a work conflict instead of saying how Adam needs to work. Another cross over argument from Carole.

Sadly I don't think we will get to hear the full story because once again we go down the rabbit hole of someone telling another person how they should talk to them. I think Bethenny was trying to quash it and realized Carole was on a roll so she decided to patronize her. It still begs the question-why would Carole be upset over Bethenny contacting Adam? I am sure other charities contact Adam? Maybe Carole remembers Adam dashing off with Luann's niece.

It didn't help then Dorinda in a TH screws things up. If someone accuses me of calling their boyfriend (or ex boyfriend) I would operate under the assumption, they thought I called. I am telling you when it comes to charity, people get fast and loose with contacts and mailing lists. What remains a mystery is why Carole would be bothered by her so-called good friend contacting Adam? Didn't she contact Scott-while estranged from Adam? All a mystery to me.

I think Bethenny has actually taken the high road. She has explained her side without debasing anyone. I think Bethenny addressed it surprising well when she said once the words were out of her mouth she wanted to stuff them back in. Carole claimed they were all operators, so I am at a loss, as to why she is being such a pain.

Carole's comments were beneath contempt and some lame apology years later while still allowing the accusation to stand was unconscionable. There are some jokes that just go too far.

The problem with Carole's entire moving message is it was non-responsive to the disagreement between Dorinda and Sonja. Dorinda hates Sonja and seeks at every opportunity to call her out, humiliate her and scream at her. Hurt is hurt. But most of all for an effing journalist she and Dorinda need to stop with signing the death certificate crap. Spouses and next of kin do not sign death certificates. Dorinda essentially told Sonja to stop speaking about her past and Sonja returned the volley. At some point these women need to all calm down and be accepting of their alleged friends foibles. Carole is the worst in when it comes who can say what and how they say it. The biatch never lets go. I say off with Carole to find a new group of friends. She hated Ramona and now she is her biggest fan. Ramona the single most inappropriate, hurtful person on the entire franchise. I dare either of them to tell Brandi Glanville face to face that she just waltzed into an attorneys office and presto her marriage was over and how easy it was and most of all how it was her choice , or Camille Grammer whose husband has still never spoken to her almost ten years since he dumped her. Carole self-congratulatory blogs are pretty close to fiction. Carole also has what I refer to as cross over arguments. Carole at this point has become predatory. Her latest battle about Bethenny and/or her charity contacting Adam is just more of this nonsense that is Carole.

Here is a First Look at tonight's episode. They make up on these gals makes them look scary old. https://www.eonline.com/news/938295/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city-s-bethenny-and-carole-battle-it-out-in-the-berkshires Okay, Carole sitting there calling Bethenny out for being a liar, when Carole doesn't even have the correct day of the week. My guess is someone who works for Bethenny contacted Adam. years ago that was the big deal breaker for Jill and ALex about going on her show-she had a producer contact them.

Carole and Anthony did not work together very often. They met working on the second Mendez trial and married a year later. She returned to journalism after Anthony died for a single story. Anthony wanted to be a documentary film producer. He either didn't have the money or his illness interrupted his goals. As to Carole, I am seeing at age 30 she is still a low level producer and after taking so many years off, approximately ten, it would be difficult to return as essentially a low level producer with the 22 year olds. My second guess is that she did write news scripts-she probably was a researcher and interviewed people. The way Carole make it sound it as if she produced the pieces. I have been unable to find Carole's Emmy Awards so I am guessing they are group awards. I don't think Carole was a stand out and believe she knew what the future held-granted the loss of her husband was expected but the loss of her close friends would have been a huge setback. I compared her career to Andy Cohen's (Andy is a couple years younger) here is Andy's 10 years after graduating college: He spent 10 years at CBS News, eventually serving as senior producer of The Early Show, a producer for 48 Hours and CBS This Morning,[citation needed] and becoming vice president of original programming for the cable network Trio in 2000.[13][better source needed]Cohen joined Bravo in 2004 when the network purchased Trio.[14] None of this low level producer nonsense. Carole has huge issues with the Princess title and I would love to hear Bethenny's take on it. I am kind of hoping Carole does find a new gig that highlights her journalism background. I am betting she doesn't want the pay cut the or the day to day drudgery. Maybe she can do a documentary on Puerto Rico. .

From Carole's blog subsequent to filming, I do believe Carole and much like Dorinda last year, may be burned out on Skinnygirl and Bethenny. It always sounds like such a bitchy thing to say because Bethenny "treats" the others and the reality is she sets the table but it means nothing without the people to attend. Carole is not shy in her blog about Bethenny's largess and constant need for attention: I show up at all her launch parties, from booze to sparklers to candy. Last year in Mexico, I wore my Skinnygirl hardhat with enormous pride. I remember when Carole and Bethenny would only have Carole at Bethenny's Skinygirl candy launch party. Or when Dorinda was cashing in on the Home Goods product placement and all of a sudden Bethenny was doubled over in pain. Amazing how she was able to literally dash out of the store. certainly not to take pictures of Bethenny to post on her social media. So off she went to Houston with a professional paid photographer in tow to take pictures of her and the endless selfies she allegedly disdains. Yes, that makes everyone I know chuckle too. I think Adam was wise enough to see it was yet another Bethenny photo op moment and maybe, just maybe he did not want to donate his time. What is true is obviously all the other women talk and most likely bitch about Bethenny and her product placement and being the center of attention. There is truth in both women's stories. Carole had obviously attached she and Adam's attention to Beth Stern's charity. I can see where Carol and Adam have had enough Bethenny. My issue with Carole is how she bloviates about her amazing career, and her charity and Adam's charity and all she does. If Bethenny is so inclined she will take a laser to Carole's claims. My guess is because Bethenny is trying to create this Charity Bethenny Barbie persona-she will let Carole go rogue. Bethenny doesn't need Carole for anything but I don't think RHONY is ready for Carole at the helm. Carole and Tinsley are better suited to washed up Sex and the City characters. There is a certain irony because as the battle plays on it will be minimized once Luann gets arrested. Carole will be orgasmic over the fact Luann gets arrested and do her BS care or be worried about Luann. Once again since Season 5 the show will be all about Luann. Bethenny had some good shots with her PR efforts and buying aninvestment property, Carole had her try with the marathon, but whiskey voiced Luann will again be the center of attention and the only one who can look down at Luann's drunken behavior is Carole because the rest have often been shown as drunken idiots.

I think I am pretty clear-she went to a room in the hotel where she was staying and she was not hers. That is what set the ball in motion. She got kicked out of the jazz club, that didn't warrant calling the police. The authorities did not get involved until she went into another's room. I find it to be bizarre that aperson even drunk, gets off on the wrong floor of their hotel and finds their way to a room and refuses to leave. It is bizarre simply because it doesn't happen every day and usually doesn't end in arrest. I believe that is why the judge asked if there was alcohol involved. Had Luann just gone upstairs without having a room in the hotel that would be an eyebrow raiser-an indication of intent to appropriate a room without paying for the same. I am sorry Luann closed the door-she didn't take the door off the hinges and strike the officer with it. She has admitted she was scared and did what a child would do-run to the bathroom and she didn't want the officer to follow. She has apologized. When a judge looks at a case of a 53 year old woman, who has never been arrested, is drunk and engaged in bizarre behavior starting with going to the wrong room, ending in be belligerent to the cops, they usually are wondering why the behavior. It is a case of but for the liquor, the defendant most likely would not have behaved this way. Luann didn't shoot anyone, she resisted arrest. She was wrong and like any finder of truth, the judge is going to weigh if the conduct leading up to the behavior resulting in arrest was drug or alcohol induced. Compare to Tinsley's case where on several occasions she had been involved in violent scenes's at her lover's house and she refused the officers' repeated demand she not enter the property.Tinsley was cut loose because she agreed and had a six month pattern of not bothering her former lover. The judge is banking on the fact but for the dysfunctional relationship, Tinsley most likely won't reoffend.I believe Tinsley, much like Luann also sought treatment. Another comparison might be someone with early onset Alzheimers-when confused the person strikes out. Criminal punishment may not be the best solution. Only with Alzheimers one cannot just not do it again due to the disease progression. The reason I was wondering what sentences other similar situated defendants receive is there is always the danger of reverse discrimination due to celebrity. I just like justice to be even keeled. Listen to the facts, apply the law fairly. I doubt Luann wants to keep the process going for air time. This was not a crime of paying a fine and moving on-it involves possible incarceration. She has owned the behavior and now she is waiting for a reasonable plea deal. Well Luann tried the same approach with Tinsley and the rest not wanting to discuss her divorce and she was criticized for it by her cast mates. Ramona brings up the devastation of her divorce when it suits her. When Ramona pulled that stunt she and Mario had reconciled and her did not want it discussed. I am sure Luann would like it resolved as soon as possible but sometimes the wheels of justice move slowly.

To me it just seems like Carole is making a huge deal out of the contact between Bethenny and Adam because Dorinda Meddler filled her in on the conversation. My guess is in between the morning coffee and making Carole's bed, Adam probably mentioned the offer. I posted the clip because when Bethnny asked Carole, Carole didn't say anything at the time about it being inappropriate for Bethenny to contact Adam. According to Bethenny Carole just said business people are operators. I think this is going to catch Bethenny off guard. I noticed Bethenny uses the term "we", as in "we"-mailed Adam.

To me with charity all bets are off. You are working to try and get something accomplished. My husband gets calls all the time from my friends and acquaintances about donating wine. There has been a time or two I would have said no but he just believes people. What was Carole going to say-"you can't ask Adam, I would be offended." Why? Bethenny and Dennis have developed a relationship with Adam, Carole seemed to be including him in a variety of activities, I don't agree Carole should be consulted. Adam is his own person and should be able to respond on his own. Let's not forget Carole didn't check with Luann or Nicole about screwing Adam-Nicole's ex. I wonder if Bethenny went through Dorinda when she hired John to do her closet? I think Bethenny has always been abrasive as all get out and the others have held their feelings in check so they don't get the business from Bethenny. I also believe that Bethenny looks for stuff to create screen time. She did it to Kristen, Heather, Ramona, Sonja, Jules, Dorinda and Luann. Carole just didn't pay attention and didn't think it could happen to her. Carole and Bethenny are at that place in their relationship where neither can say the right thing.

I am not defending Bethenny but Bethenny has been clear about not hiding bumps in the friendship road. When she returned all she could do is talk about Ramona stealing dresses from her talk show. I do think Bethenny chose wisely on who to take to PR. Carole would have been droning on about landmines in Cambodia. I get why Bethenny told Dorinda-here is the clip http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/season-10/episode-7/videos/bethenny-thinks-adam-is-a-bit-of-an Dorinda I think was still feeling like a bit of an ass or she suspected she was a sacrificial lamb of sorts for footage. Well Dorinda was the one who ran with the story about how it was unacceptable it was of Adam to behave in such a fashion. What makes it stupid is Carole turning it around and saying Bethenny was waterboarding Dorinda. Dorinda certainly is not being goaded. . Dorinda will be loyal to Carole until the Reunion and once Bethenny dings her a couple of times Dorinda will apologize as usual. I am thinking Dorinda is going to lead with BEING A WIDOW.

No. Carole was in LA when Bethenny and Dorinda went to Puerto Rico. Maybe it is as simple as Bethenny knew Carole was in LA and it would be senseless to ask her to cut her trip short. See above. These are private planes and Bethenny said room for one. She turned Luann down. Just a guess but I think once Adam turned down the one day Houston trip Bethenny probably figured Carole would not be interested. Personally Carole would drive me nuts talking about all her experience as a journalist. Not sure what that has to do with delivering relief. Bethenny has experience mucking horse stalls. What is Carole's point? Carole just believes Bethenny is trying to turn Dorinda against her. After seeing a drunken Dorinda why would Carole stick up for her? No she ignored Dorinda's drunken behavior in her mighty blogs. Carole's idiotic musings about Bethenny accusing her and Adam of not knowing what is going on in the world. Just stupid stuff coming out of Carole's yap.

Love your post. This idea there is a rift between the two of them was exacerbated because Dorinda Medler went and carried tales back to Bethenny. Dorinda doesn't have the dissing Richard Medley excuse because she would not have seen it. Carole would have known about the Adam stuff if it was that important to mention a day away to Carole. My guess is Bethenny pretty much stated what is up with Adam -he is an operator-it seems he manages to pop back in during filming. Carole pretty much showed her ass when she went after Bethenny's career. No reason to tear hers down to make Carole's look better. Carole's first Emmy was for a piece she worked on traveling to Cambodia. Here is her account and this is 1990 she would have been in Cambodia. " As I sit in a Los Angeles restaurant waiting to interview Olivia Wilde, my mind trails back 20 years earlier, to a restaurant in Bangkok where I once waited for Olivia's mother, award-winning producer and journalist Leslie Cockburn. (I was a young production associate at ABC News and assigned to work with Leslie on a documentary about Cambodia.) I first met Olivia, in fact, while working for her mother. Leslie had an editing room set up in the family's Georgetown home, where I sat and logged videotapes. Olivia was just a little kid, but she already had a unique poise." Here are all the folks who worked on it: http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/474863/Peter-Jennings-Reporting-From-the-Killing-Fields/ Notice where Carole is listed. Hardly "her piece on Cambodia". Here is a list of the Emmy Awards for Documentaries and News 1990-no Carole but Anthony got an Emmy as a producer http://emmyonline.com/download/1990-Nomination_Winners.pdf See page 17. Could not find any awards in 1991. Anyway I guess my point is according to Carole she started working at ABC in 1985 and she describes herself as a "young production associate" in 1990/91. She met Anthony in 1993 and married him 1994 and then took leave to care for him. I am curious when she became this seasoned journalist. Carole worked as a "journalist" for 10 years. Hell Luann was a journalist for a couple of years in Italy on a sports news show. On air talent. She did a short stint on a show after Anthony died. Work wise Carole entered the work market 32 years ago worked as a journalist for 10 and has written two books and done so interviews for a Glamour. She now has five years as a reality star.

It is funny people can have elevated liver numbers or fatty liver and they get a lecture on cutting back or quitting booze. Then there is Sonja the binger, who probably gets her "bloods" tested after abstaining for a month or so and can be declared not having a problem. Sonja has no shame. She probably enjoys the publicity.

Isn't Luann going down the same path as obeying the law and quitting drinking? Tinsley crime arose out of continually refusing to obey lawful orders of the police. The 911 tapes are on her thread. Luann hasn't denied anything and she has publicly apologized-no hiding behind her attorney. She has told the story as other s have told her and what she remembers. I would love for someone who live in Palm Beach to provide the records of what happens to offenders who close a door on a cop. Luann didn't ball up her fist and hit the cop and she hasn't denied what happened. Luann could have had a consumed a keg but for going in the wrong room-which is what was the genesis of the crimes, she would have just been hung over and maybe missed her flight. The drunkeness mildly mitigates only because it is such a bizarre set of circumstances. I look back at Kim Richards who also assaulted police officers and trespassed-I am thinking they usually resolve this case without jail time. Again I would be curious to see what the average sentence is actually given for drunk in public, trespass and resisting arrest and battery on a peace officer. I don't think celebrity has all that much to do with leniency.