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Debbie - Im guessing before Coltee.

So Chloe has gone on YouTube to express her anger over everyone misreading her mother. My take away from this is 1) She is very full of herself (obviously not effected by any negative comments about appearances) 2) She is not with Max anymore 3) She should let her mother defend herself and just worry about getting an education and taking care of her baby 4) She will be just like her mother in 15 years just amplified by stupidity by 10.

Im not sure if this has already been mentioned but Im going to give my guess about Jons friends and family seeming so unaccepting of this relationship. I think that Jon is wanting a beard and Im not talking about facial hair. Something struck me as really off when his friend was questioning him about Jons change of heart and Jon answered with I met her and fell in love and everything changed. That meeting with another person close to Jon acting so suspicious about Jon and Racheland discouraging seemed more than just worried about whether or not they will make it. Also could have something to do with the reference to "open" relationship maybe more open than what Rachel was thinking? I think it would make sense with the fighting in bars too !! I wonder if Rachel has seen any of these girlfriends on his social media ? Like before they were a thing - I would be curious to see if he has any evidence of his seeing so many women and the relationships ?

Jessica is such a manipulator and thinks this is all about her and she is right it is somewhat about how she failed to keep her daughter from getting pregnant. Lets face it when I was whatever age Chloe is (15- 16 yrs old) I was not running around town with boys- nope sorry. Car dating was not allowed until I was 16 yrs old and then was limited. Some would say my mom was crazy strict and she didn't care ever - only cared to make sure I was not out there trying to act like a adult when still a child. Chloes mom is taking care of her daughter right now cause she is her responsibility we have yet to see her take care of the baby so to say that Chloe and Max should be so grateful for the bullshit they are getting from Jessica is funny. I think that Chloe and Max are both treating her mother and her father with respect and trying as much as their teenage uneducated and immature selves can. How can Max know what she wants when she is so two faced that I think she has confused herself because she is not making Max look like the "bad" guy that is so below her daughter and herself - instead she is making him look good and better than her. Grandpa and Grandma show us who Jessica learned some of her behavior from - and to be honest why is Grandpa making shitty judgement at all when he obviously doesn't know the whole situation? And what a guy he is attacking his Granddaughter for sticking up for her babies father who seems to be the only person who seems to give a shit about her feelings- shame on you Grandpa. Take your gifts and shove them is what I would say - if you want to do something for me or my baby do it but don't do it and think you have the right to abuse me with your comments and or control my emotions cause it wont work - never does. If this family does not want to accept Max say it and act like adults that can stand by what they decide. Sorry but Jessica irks me worse than Kelsey or Shannon. These three need so much help but will never get it cause the narcissism runs too deep. Chloes little sister is adorable and looks like Chloes mini me - lets hope the baby doesn't have that mouth though. I really don't think the parents are doing these kids a favor by letting them have babies that they cant care for - they are ruining the lives of the girls and the babies that will be effected by the inadequacy and disfunction. So to say these girls are lucky that they are paying for all this - I would disagree strongly. Do any of the girls have any goals for their future? Did they ever?

Not Keiffer , not Courtland , not Gary, and not Nathan Every single one has had major legal problems for various crimes ranging from drugs/dui and domestic violence.

Really?? Who would that be?

Okay so I was very surprised when they had Darlene kill Jacob - just as I would have been shocked if he followed through and killed her. These two people were all each other had and to give it up so quickly just hits me as not believable. Darlene could have gotten a baby with Jacob alive and I don't believe for one second getting a baby would make his death okay for her. But with that said I don't see how they are going to take her out next season without hurting the baby which you know she is going to wear as a shield - 24 x7. I also would have liked it if they would have had some dialogue between Marty and Wendy about he fact that they killed Zekes father and then gave him to the people responsible for his mothers death and eventually his fathers- how creepy and scary is that ? And wrong - whats to say she wont get crazy and harm the baby? If she can kill her husband of many years she can a baby too. Im confused about Ash was he their son or just an employee? I didn't find Rachel a likable character this season - last was better for her imo. I really cant see Marty falling for her at this time with her drug issues being what they were. I did not agree with his insistence that she was not to blame for what she had done - come on please. He is so strong in his belief that everyone else has made choices that led to their demise or rise - but she gets a go free card? Really lame. The daughter thing - I don't care either way. I wanted to see Ruth kill her father and it would have been a lot cleaner for all involved. With all these deaths and disappearances from a seemingly quiet town it would have to set off a lot of red flags wouldn't it? And I think it would not take long for the answer to be clear about who is or has to have involvement. My biggest complaint about this show is do we have to wait for another year before we get some more of it? I wish they would do half seasons or more shows because I cant get enough of this show even with any of the dislikes I may have. Isnt this the last show - so we cant really spoil it can we?

Lily has a vlog (I think that is what you call it) on you tube- I happen to love her even if the common opinion is that she is not a smart girl. Anyway you can see her and the baby as she puts new videos up - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcgcYWCmUR3R8NcQpAg45GA

This has to be contributing to his bad attitude and thinking he is so wonderful - cant wait for his basic ass to get out into the real world for his reality and place in life to hit him hard.

What has Kail done to her face? She looks so bad and nothing like the pretty girl she once was. She looks like Miss Piggy hair and all. I think she needs to stop everything she's doing and go to same rehab place Leah went for her depression not addiction. Kail is becoming such a unlikeable person in every way. She needs to practice some self awareness and then some self control. Does she think her "boys" will be proud of their mother when they see this once they are old enough to understand it? Brianna is not smart enough and doesn't have it in her at this time in her life to be anything but how she is- and may never change. Kail needs to get a new crew or better yet grow up and be the great single mother she claims to be - she is going to completely destroy any chance of the life she wants if not.

Wonder what will happen when Jimenez finds out that his son has been killed by the Colonel who was following some order from Teresa? Hoping that Teresa will kill the Colonel or her daughter does for his sloppy work. Next week is the season finale right? Does anyone know if it has been given another season ? Yea but Guero finally looked good - he cleaned up beyond nicely. I didn't recognize him at first.

I already posted this in the Anfisa and Jorge thread but I am posting it here because in this video they seem so different than on the show - I wonder which act is the truth? Let me know what you think

This is true!! Nancy Grace is lying through her teeth as she knows this will not hold up in court because Jenelle wasn't charged with a crime - if she was different story but she was not. A judge and or courtroom wants to see facts and usually in black and white - they don't and wont look at bad behavior videos and remove or grant custody based on those alone. Just think of all the videos they would have to watch if this was the norm? No what they like to see is real charges which Nathan has recently as well and they were violent in nature and show continued substance abuse from him with his being charged multiple times. He has also shown himself to have anger issues , to be suicidal and has PTSD which makes him unstable at times as well. I also don't think any judge will like him going public with his concerns looks like he is hungry for attention and or his intentions are not what he says. If you are truly so upset do what you need to legally protect your child and if you are right the law will support your effort and help. And really what Grandmother gives up her fight for custody of a child that she really thinks is being beaten or abused because her husband is ill? Did he pass away? What was his illness? We never heard so I don't think it could have been more serious than her grandchild being abused and tortured like the claim is from Nathan’s side. Nothing could have stopped my Grandmother and my Dad ever so I just don't get it - lots of talk no action. As far as CPS and their rules - they will leave children with their biological parents as long as they can because studies have shown time and time again that children who are taken from their homes and put into foster care , with relatives or the system have lasting scars from it more than the ones who benefit. Believe it or not regardless of the conditions it is in our nature to want to be with our biological parents more so than a family member when growing up even. Plus have you any idea of the amount of cases that are much much worse than Jenelle that they can’t place? If they were to take children because others don't agree with their parent’s choices about parenting and the parent’s behavior they would be full beyond belief - it has to be looked at very carefully. I know I had my moments of making a poor choice a few times in front of my son that I was regretful for after but it did not involve a gun - I do think that she should not be able to tote a gun around if not by the courts decision then hopefully David’s since he seems to be more reasonable about this incident. (maybe on her own after reflection) But this show is TM and they were mostly train wrecks from the get go that is what this show was about - showing how messed up it is and how hard it is for teens to parent. Now it is showing how it effects them for most of if not all of their lives - both baby and teen.

Nobody was charged in the road rage with Jenelle right?

I think that Jorge having nothing to do with the child in question is not a case of him abandoning the child exactly- I think that he was very young (as we see he is not that mature of a person at 28 yrs old so I can only imagine at 17 yrs old his level of maturity) and it sounds like he did not have an actual relationship with this woman so he just forgot about it when he could which was most the time. In his mind this woman has not convinced him or if she has he didnt want to take responsibility from a one night stand. Now I am not saying this is the right decision to make just that I think it was not like he walked away from a baby or child he knew or had any emotional attachment to so in his mind its not his. Also I am wondering why the mother did not file for child support through the legal system who would have gladly tested Jorge and had him pay support ? If she is sure it is his I would guess she did not want him to be in the babies life so she let it go. And for sure if she was willing to let it go he was too. I dont like the way she was referring to this child as a baby when talking to Jorge and saying to him that he doesnt know her name but yet he met up with you to buy some things at the mall for the child? Then she says at the Tell All that he would not give her money for food once? Which is it? I dont like that her story is not adding up either so I dont think it is a clear case of Jorge just abandoning his daughter - sorry Anfisa. Also if Anfisa is so upset that he is doing that why isnt she pushing for the test like yesterday? Lastly Anfisa said that this woman got a hold of her when she and Jorge first met but she blew it off so she can not act like this is a new bombshell that she has just found out about - she blew it off just like he has. Russ was throwing just as much shade as he could all on his own every chance he got so I think that he is a lot like Pao - insecure and pathetic. Cant even come up with a better act and story line for themselves- sad.

Yuck was that raw bacon layed on top of the raw eggs? Can bacon even cook like that?

After watching the yoga challenge video they did together I really wonder about the show and how much of the couples story lines are fake for tv. Anfisa and Jorge seem to be really close and very touchy feely with one another in this video totally opposite from what we have seen from these two on tv. Something is just not adding up with these two.

I like when Azan said he knew right away after he talked to her and they had just met that she was the one for him. What he was saying was that he knew she was the one that was stupid enough for him to pull this crap over on all the other marks are much brighter there for harder for his line of crap to work. Maybe Mama Chantel was right when she said this is about to get stupider?

You know I wonder if anyone has sat Nicole down and been blunt and to the fact about their true concerns and reasons why she should not be acting so reckless with her own life and her little daughters? First off she should not take her little daughter to other places where she can not say and know that her daughter wont be hurt in some way while there. Nicole has to be very vigilante about being a single mother of a cute little girl that predators of all kinds will want to get a hold of - and the fact that she seems to be oblivious about this makes her look unfit and irresponsible. I know CPS wont take a child from a mother because she is ignorant BUT I think her mother could take her to court to try to retain custody of May(?) with a long list of reasons couldn't she? Secondly Nicole needs to be told that when there is so many red flags you should not give your heart and your time to another person like this - and when she says she loves him and knows him they should just tell her she is acting ridiculous and stupid. Instead of tiptoeing around her like they don't want to upset her too much. Lay it out there about her mistake with her daughters father and the fact that she has shown poor judgement then leave it up to her while letting her know if she wants to do this she will have to do it alone. Don't fly out there and buy her a dress - they are signing on to this when they do- not what loving parents should do. Lastly they should not let her take that little girl and should pull out all stops on her - my guess is they don't want to raise the little girl so they are willing to let her go with her mom which is a lot like Nicole is acting - reckless and ridiculous now and will oh poor me after a tragedy happens. I cant with people like this when it comes to playing with innocent children. In my opinion Azans family especially his mother was putting on some kind of act or he was not saying what she really was ? Im sure someone watching would have corrected him if he was adlibbing or being misleading right? Every scene at his families home has rubbed me as a bunch of b--s---! His sister getting so angry was not right either - not that Nicole was not acting like a 12 yr old and not taking responsibility for herself BUT did she ask his family to do this for her? It seems like they just took charge - I think it looks like a bunch of gypsies pulling off a scam which they are not that good at but think they are. I would have liked to see how the sister would act and what she would say to Nicoles mother about it all. Come on producers you had to think of that one.

Sure no problem - http://extratv.com/2018/07/16/long-island-medium-love-story-larry-caputos-new-gf-revealed/ and http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/16/long-island-medium-theresa-estranged-husband-larry-caputo-mystery-girl-revealed/

I just don't get why Barb seems to get a "go free" pass with the mistakes that are shown on TV that she is making. I do not see a person who is showing a "put the children first - loving from the heart" in her actions - ever. I am looking at her behavior seperate from her daughters - not comparing them just judging Barbs actions and when I do I don't like what I see. Sheesh I think the Kardashian clan come off better with their children than Barb or Jo he shows true from the heart concern, love and commitment to Isaac. Barb who is much older and should know from previous errors fails to come across ever like Jo does with Isaac - why is that? And I don't think playing with a child should include an interrogation as the norm - sorry. Jace seems so uncomfortable every time but Barb is shown doing it every time we see her with him.

I just saw pictures of Larry and his new love which he met when she had a reading done by Theresa and her and Larry stayed in contact with each other after. Wow what a loyal guy! He probably wasn't getting enough attention from Theresa - give me a break. I hope he doesn't get one dime from her from here on out - that and his fame from riding Theresa's is all that loser is really going to miss. I feel for Theresa - too bad everyone has gotten the wrong read with these two.

Pote was in the opening scene with Teresa - he was walking right next to her when she was going into her (i assume) mansion.

The preview of season looks messy but it might just be the editing either way I am in - and I am totally ashamed of myself. No self control at all - wish my dvr didn't record so I could save myself!!

Okay so I know this is not going to be the most welcomed comment but I want to address the segment with Barb and Colin - I just cant understand what Barb is thinking by letting Colin interact one on one with Jace like he was suggesting they do in a attempt to promote himself in regards to living with Barb. This grown man who is obviously mentally unstable should not be around a little boy or girl unsupervised for any reason other than parental neglect. The part where he said that Jace doesn't calm down until he has been in the room playing video games for a few hours is also very telling- wtf cant Jace ever get a break from these idiots that seem to be raising him? I like the part where Barb tried to lead him about the way Jace is angry and violent when he gets back home and who is to say he isn't angry because he is back with these two? At the end of the last show we heard Jace call his mother and David pieces of shit and yet she did not say one word other than ask him to repeat himself? This kid is going to be so messed up - he could very well end up like all three of Barbs children so far and why not?