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How about Ali too? They've never shared a scene. Aria at least might have met him when he was Emily's doctor.

So I'm alone in thinking Hanna was out of line? (it's rare I don't agree with Hanna) I'm not sympathetic towards Charles. And I think Tanner is likely correct in that Charles collects trophies..not that he wants to be a part of their family. But I do feel bad for Ali. She's trying to digest all of this, to make sense of it all. She never knew she had a brother..but now..she knows he likely is the one who tried to kill her, who has been stalking her and her friends, who set her up for murder, who kidnapped and tortured her friends, who killed her mother. But he's still family. He's still blood. Digesting this..and wondering how the person in her memories can be THIS person..is normal. Being confused and feeling a lot of different emotions is normal. Ali wanting to confront Charles..to talk to him..that's understandable. Ali hoping that there is something good in her brother, despite all that he's done..that's understandable. (I mean really, think about how fucked up her family is..) Hanna's right in that Charles is a bad guy and needs to be put away. But Ali's emotions and feelings are valid and there was no needs for a "smackdown." I don't think the show is going to retcon or try to redeem Charles. The show went too dark for that. But I do think it's going to try and get the viewer to understand..which is different than redeeming.

I think it's just a lot for Ali to digest. Obviously this "villian" has tortured her and her friends and likely killed her mother. But at the same time, apparently he's her long lost brother..she has some memories of him..and he was sent away because of something he did to her. It would be a roller coaster of emotions for anyone..

Well, it took 8 episodes for Clark to show his creep. New record for a non Caleb Rosewood Male. I don't like Lorenzo. It's really not fair that I don't like Lorenzo though. He might be the same age as Toby, so it's not that. He's been relatively nice. So it's not that. I don't know, something about him screams predator. Aria..don't be silly, Ezra wasn't interested in the adult. Speaking of, if we're going to be subjected to Rosewood men...at least give us Caleb. Ali has got to be one of the most complicated characters on television. Hmm..Kenneth isn't dead. Damn. So Reese is A's Jason doll?

There were multiple red coats.. CeCe/Ali/?

I think they've done a good job showing us why Ezria is terrible too. I think the writers are locked into couples and can't get out of them even if they wanted them. The fact that a producer actually tweeted that any teacher that dates his student is bad guy, suggests they think it's creepy too. :P I think we see a return to old Ali when she gets into survival mode, like in prison. But right now, she's not really in danger. She's isolated. She believes her friends were put through hell because of her. Although the storyline and personality shift with Alison isn't as fun, it completely makes sense.

It does make sense. Alison has never had a real relationship. She's used her sexuality for power plenty of times. (Similar to Lolita) But she's never actually been in love. She wanted to with Emily, but then the girls thought she was A.

I think CeCe is dead, and CeCe and Bethany were twins. One key moment that gets overlooked is that CeCe (or whoever it really was) was wearing the same outfit that Ashley found in Allison's room when she confessed to killing Wilden. (When Ashley assumed Mrs. D was just buying clothes for her dead daughter.) That is an intentional detail. They are connected somehow.

That makes sense then. Especially given she started when Glee had considerably less fans..

That's true... Maybe Charles also has a crush on Aria..and that's why he's easier on her. (although then you'd think he would have broken up Ezra and Aria..)

I'm really surprised Heather's is that low. I got the impression she was very popular. Is she not into social media as much?

I also wonder if Jason's crush on Aria is why he was nicer to Aria. We've always wondered that, if Jason was the lone family member that Charlie had positive feelings for..it might make sense that he wouldn't torture Aria as harshly.

Charlie used her name. It's really not a big deal, and funny enough my cousins actually look like that and have the age differences that the show supposedly suggests. 10, 9, 8, and 4...4 year old looks just as old as the 10 year old...little 10 year old, big 4 year old. Not a big deal.

A killed Mr. D, didn't he?

Hmm, if A knows everything..wouldn't he/she know that Jason tried to go alone? I wish we got more of Mona/Ali together. Bye Toby? (maybe? Hopefully? Please? Take Ezra with you..) Hmm..Hannah gets a scholarship, Aria gets approved for her art show...is A trying to apologize. How very abusive relationship of him/her. Did we find out second good boyfriend in Rosewood? Mike Montgomery.

The actress who played Samara actually landed a bigger role. I think she was actually one of the more popular ones for Emily.

That's actually more likely.

Jesus, she hasn't even gained that much weight. If they dressed her up in that "Free People/Urban Outfitter" popular style, it's so baggy no one would know. But I personally don't think that's what it is. You can't bring Ali out yet, not ready for the answers she can provide.

Emily has the Paige/Emison shipper wars. Her endgame is one of them. (I'd still say it's likely Alison...and that's what Sara is. An Ali replacement)

Mike is standing right in front of the box that she's throwing the doll in. I mean, it's obviously staged..but she was trying to throw it in his direction.

Well, that suggests the spoilers are fake. I doubt she's Emily's endgame. Even if she was supposed to be, she won't be now. MK will change it considering everyone hates her.

So his dream broadway role followed by being in a movie with an Oscar winner making his director debut and an emmy nomination. Darren could be doing worse for himself.

I think though, had this been on HBO, nymphomaniac could apply to Spencer if the show wanted to take it there. Spencer has an addictive personality, to the point where there are problems..she's also not just sleeping with a lot of people, or having a lot of sex with one person..she's doing so where there will clearly be negative consequences (hurting her sister or her partner for example..) To me, Emily is the character with the high sex drive. She doesn't have an addiction, she just gets what she wants.

I think that's right after Mr. D dug up the grave. It's still night, and Ali asks "where were you" I also think Ali is going to talk, because how else are the rest of the girls going to find out that Charles is coming.

I always thought Troian's point about people demonizing Spencer verses demonizing the adult men was spot on. But to go even further, she never came on to Melissa's boyfriends. I think she accepted it though because of the competition between her and her sister. But she's also always been cool with cheating.