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The twins were better. I think Heather would be a good soap.

I'd reverse that. I think be delusional would be a better trait for Sonja. I believe she's both. I'm raising both my hands for this. I'd have preferred less tantrums, more scenery. Not every minute needed to be juvenile drama filled.

I think Danielle was too boring. She's been on 4 episodes that I can remember and she only spoke in 3 of them. I prefer Shannon's fashions over Heather's. Strapless dresses aren't many women's best friend. I think Lydia probably could pull that casual summer strapless dress the best. I just appreciate it when the pink parts (thanks Vicki) are covered.

I think Reid is being investigated. Not sure that qualifies as gossip or hearsay. I thought the French house was already sold to satisfy the bankruptcy judgment and it wasn't sold by Sonja but rather for Sonja.

On today's show, Rosalie mentioned Rafe's father escaped from a locked mental ward and hasn't been found. Is that true?

Perhaps Levi threatens to tell Nathan's boss that Nathan lied during Maxie's custody hearing?

Vicki has implants. She copped to them previously. All Brooks ever does is want to eat & drink. That said, I can't blame him. Maybe some valium would do Shannon good. I know it would help me be around her. I love how Michael likes to claim he didn't want to be on TV but he pops up a lot. And he likes to get paid by Vicki, and use her timeshare. I'm glad he rarely speaks.

Maxie said she was going to tell Nathan's boss all the bad cop things he has done. She didn't specifically point out the lying about the notice thing. But what else is there? To quote Red Forman, Maxie's a dumbass.

I wish I was better at accessing TWOP in the wayback machine. I can only do it if I know what page # stuff was on and yea, I don't have a Sheldon Cooper like memory. Someone (maybe Diane Chambers?) posted a link to the court case involving David & Shannon. David wasn't found not guilty. He did take a plea. He was on probation. He did go for counseling. He did community service. I think it was a term of 3 years that he had to stay out of trouble (just like Chris Brown) and the charges would be dismissed. We can all imagine a lot of things, none of us were there. However, the above doesn't sound like it would be a result of a minor or verbal dispute.

I'm going to reply in the Shannon thread so as to not derail the episode conversation.

I don't enjoy the Nina storyline but I also am not bothered with how campy the actress is making it. It's stupid. Play it to full tilt. Patrick, there is nothing life or death about the accident ANYMORE. Of course, chasing the suspect on your own is a recipe for success. I get that he's upset and why he's upset but if I were Sam, I wouldn't be too thrilled with his rantings. Rosalie is a bit too gleeful and seems to be setting herself up for a fall. Dial it back. Maxie for the love of dog, grow up. Besides the stupid flailing and treating Nathan like he's an annoying brother, did she really threaten to tell his superiors on him about his lying for her? If Nathan found any of that attractive, he deserves her. I'm going out on a limb and saying Spinelli has a copy. He also emailed it to Carly. So it's out there. In the cloud. Yea Ned!

Brandi trashes her children on air and in print and lets everyone know that one is a bedwetter. Here's Lizzie letting everyone know that the 4 yr old craps his pants all the way up his back. Good job. The disclosure wasn't done in an instructional or informational way but more in a sensational way. So guess what Lizzie, people are gonna get on you for it. Sucks to be you. Shannon is like an exposed nerve. I feel bad for her but she is willingly putting herself and her marriage and family on TV. David is no more of an innocent than Donn was or Mario (RHoNY) is. His arrest for DV wasn't a he said she said incident. Shannon tried to drop the charges. The injuries were significant enough that the DA went through with it despite her pleas. Suggesting that Shannon brought in on herself... let's not venture into that territory. Vicki's weight is fine. She's a bit thick in the middle and except for business attire, dresses poorly. Wonder how many people would be surprised what they looked like on HDTV? It ain't pretty ladies, it shows flaws you didn't even know you had.

Carole said the VIP line. Not sure if the guy was referring to that remark or their outfits but as he was escorting his daughters, he should have kept the remark to himself. I took it as Heather pointing out that Kristen is used to being walked over so much so that she even allows the hired help to push their responsibilities off on her. I think Kristen is just as much of a control freak but isn't in control. Kristen's yippy little dog personality and constant shocked face would grate on my nerves after 15-20 minutes. I'd have to be paid to be her friend.

I think this site should allow us to have tag lines under our avatars. Mine (as of today) is " Don't come for me unless I send for you". I wonder if PETA will go after Kristen.

No scratchy the woody! So it's a 3 bedroom condo and Vicki has invited her brother & his girlfriend as well as David & Shannon and maybe her son Michael. Vicki's brother loves the camera. Vicki and Brooks take the master. OK. Then Vicki assigns the smallest bedroom that backs up to the main road to her guests? Um, no. Nice of the brother to offer but Vicki shouldn't have put them in that position. I'd have been on hotels.com or flipkey getting my own room somewhere else if I was Shannon. Let Michael have the tiny room and we'll join for breakfast. I'm sure there was another timeshare that wasn't occupied that they could have stayed in. I think production would hate me as I'd be avoiding all drama. Lizzie wants a girl. She'd be better off with a doll that she can dress up. I doubt she'd parent that any better. And yes, I am knowingly being a sanctimommy.

Beaches Baby! I think Kristen's involvement was looking at the website and picking out some activities. And then letting a PA take over. K is lucky Heather didn't get her with a back throw. JUST OWN IT. What is that? Is that the new "YOU DIDN'T HAVE MY BACK"? The howives looked ridic at the rodeo. Sonja and Kristen really have jealousy issues. Wonder if Mario's cheating comes up at the reunion? Guess this is one reason the season was recut, to get all the snide Mario remarks in.

Neither Shannon nor Heather are accurate in their retelling of events. I like how Vicki is so wise about relationships. /sarcasm Too bad she didn't have these insights during either of her marriages. I guess Brooks' value is in showing Vicki that Donn wasn't half bad after all. Vicki's brother's girlfriend looks a little like Vicki. Thankfully, she's quiet.

I don't know how much Todd is paying each month but Kandi did say that he paid expenses. If expenses also included property taxes, that doesn't leave much from Todd's salary to put towards a home of his own. I had a now ex living with me and I thought he should pay for 1/2 the utilities but he rarely did (one of the reasons, he's an ex). He started calling my house 'his' to his friends and I was like...um no. He also thought he should get part ownership since he helped paint and stuff. Again no. So I see Kandi's point but if she's not allowing Todd to earn money, what is he supposed to do? Play lotto? I think they both were playing chicken. Kandi will giving him the prenup so late and Todd for getting the lawyer so last minute. IIRC, Riley's father was a married man in the industry and rarely participated in Riley's life. Riley did go visit him a couple of times and she said her half siblings were nice but she didn't feel welcome. Kandi said she didn't want Riley not to have her father absent from her life since that's what Kandi had growing up. Well, maybe don't have a baby by a married man with kids. Mama Joyce is one nasty witch. "Who gives the bride away?" says the pastor (Kandi's dad). "I guess you" answers Mama Joyce pointing her finger at the pastor. I keep hoping it's an act but I don't believe it is.

I think Michael was there because even though filming was going on, he didn't want to miss out on his Mexico free vacation. Pricing is dependent on the week #, not size of the room. Typically, you get the same unit for the same week(s) every year though you can trade. It's a small room and a small bed. If one of them tosses and turns, it will be uncomfortable. Shannon is also used to sleeping by herself. I could see how this could be a concern. Especially since they are filming, she'll want a good night's rest. I did see a genuine connection between David and Shannon in that scene though. 4? I dunno, he's way too old to behave that way or be wearing a diaper. Sure have another kid that you don't raise properly. And he watches himself cry in the mirror? WTF. Those production people better invest in health insurance. Tamra is gonna get them for that awful white eyeliner. It's so horrid! Astro. Shocking that Eddie doesn't participate. He's made it clear he isn't interested. Giving him the worse possible experience isn't going to change that. I like how they pawned it off on Ryan next episode.

Maybe Nathan will show up to remove Maxie and Levi and he can clue her in that being arrested isn't actually going to further her campaign to get custody/visitation. How much do we think the PT is being paid to compromise his integrity? 10 Gs? Delia. Liked the shout-out to Siobhan. It was years before I knew the 'shavon' was spelled that way.

Except Gretchen really embraced the trench coat.

I don't. Sonja doesn't value friendships and she's not above making stuff up nor does she care how damaging it might be to others. Hearing her blather on about crap in attempt to cause someone else pain (simply because she's jealous), doesn't interest me in the least.

Kyle's youngest is Portia. Porsha is on RHoATL.

Yea, I highly doubt it's because Carole maybe wrote some positive comments. All the wives get positive comments. The blog comments have always been suspect to me because they don't go up automatically. There's always some big delay and most comments don't make it. I've posted positive, boring, funny and critical comments in the past. I think 1 only got posted. It's like the old Bravo message boards. Bravo probably felt it wasn't worth the effort of maintaining.

I liked first year Vicki. Not floppy breasted showing too much skin Vicki.