S04.E01: Warren's Dream 2017.09.29

[Ohwell]

The group is confronted by the inhabitants of Zona.

 

Edited September 30, 2017 by Ohwell

[SoSueMe]

• The Exorcist and Z Nation snuck up on me last night. Feast or famine, lol. I will catch Z Nation on demand. I hope  can remember where it left off. :)

[ottoDbusdriver]

2 hours ago, Ohwell said:

The group is confronted by the inhabitants of Zona.

 

That is a rather vague episode description -- found one that better describes the episode

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Warren's Apocalyptic Dream of a Black Rainbow sends our heroes on a mysterious new mission to save the Apocalypse from something even worse. Warren awakens from a coma to find herself in ZONA two years later, with Murphy seemingly cured, and the rest of our heroes either dead or fighting for their lives against unkillable "MAD-Z's" caused by an evolving Zombie Virus.

But even that description misses on a few points.   But anyway, the gang is back --- just not together.

I'm still not sure exactly what those psychedaelic guns on the drone did to Warren and Murphy -- but they were the only 2 that ended up in ZONA.  So did the drone just leave everyone else there ?

Two Years Later -- they really did need the mice from the movie 'Babe' for that transition.  And things have apparently got worse -- except in ZONA where everything is damn near perfect.  

I'm a little pissed that they killed off 5K, but I'm still unclear how he saved Lucy and Addie -- did he summon the crows to save them (like the giant Eagles in 'Lord of the Rings'), and does this mean that The Man is once and finally dead (or is he a zombie now too).  Was that The Man's remains at the cliff bottom ?

Heck, I still have no idea how 5K and Red were alive in the first place.

Doc has been on the run from Zs all this time, Red and 10K (who has completely recovered from his near death experience in last season's finale) have set up a tree tent in the woods, and Addie and Lucy have been driving around all this time kicking ass and taking names -- and are apparently telepathically connected now.  And for good measure the Z virus is evolving since headshots no longer take them down for good.

Zona is just all kinds of WTFery -- a cure for the Z virus, clothing optional Thursdays, dinner parties, self-driving cars, immaculate clothing choices, landscaping, a massive security force, and lets not forget the evil scientist creating chemicals that create a thermolytic reaction in zombified tissue (I'm sure that is going to end well </sarcasm>).

And the results of that zombie-killing chemical seem to tie in directly to Warren's vision.  No idea what that massive black bridge.

And we still have no idea what happened to Citizen Z and Uncle -- last we saw they were headed back to Northern Lights.  Is Kaya still running Camp Northern Lights ?  Has Kaya given birth to Citizen Z's baby yet (since it is 2 years later now) ?

I guess Murphy never made it back to Spokane in the intervening 2 years.  Wonder if that is still running since Murphy is cured and probably no longer has control over everyone that he bit ?

Edited September 30, 2017 by ottoDbusdriver

[Ohwell]

2 hours ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

4 hours ago, Ohwell said:

The group is confronted by the inhabitants of Zona.

 

That is a rather vague episode description -- found one that better describes the episode

Thanks, that's all I could find.  Point is, someone had to start the thread and I'm not a mod.  

[Joimiaroxeu]

Wonder why the writers felt like they had to do a 2-year flash forward? To justify Roberta turning into the Z Nation version of Barbarella? Maybe by the end of the season this will all have turned out to be a dream sequence.

That zombie cake was disgusting. Of course only post-apocalyptic whack jobs would eat something so gross and think it was hilarious.

I just learned that Zona is on a Hawaiian island. All this time I'd been thinking it was somewhere between Phoenix and San Diego. In this episode the beach shots threw me until I googled the Z Nation wiki.

Where is Citizen Z? Did he get flash-forwarded off the show?

[Ohwell]

I suspect Citizen Z will show up in the next episode or two.  I hope he's still with his girlfriend (don't remember her name) and her family.

I also hope that 10K's girlfriend (I'm awful at remembering names, lol) was mistaken about what she saw the birds eating and it wasn't 5K, and he miraculously shows up.  I mean, why not? 

Roberta was rockin' that  black gown.

[SoSueMe]

2 hours ago, Ohwell said:

I suspect Citizen Z will show up in the next episode or two.  I hope he's still with his girlfriend (don't remember her name) and her family.

I also hope that 10K's girlfriend (I'm awful at remembering names, lol) was mistaken about what she saw the birds eating and it wasn't 5K, and he miraculously shows up.  I mean, why not? 

Roberta was rockin' that  black gown.

I still haven't watched yet, but I seem to remember that the crows were protective of 5K? Wasn't 10K's girlfriend named Red?

@ottoDbusdriver thanks for the rundown :)

@Ohwell Thanks for starting the thread :)

Edited October 1, 2017 by SoSueMe

[Ohwell]

11 minutes ago, SoSueMe said:

Wasn't 10K's girlfriend named Red?

I think you're right.

[ottoDbusdriver]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I just learned that Zona is on a Hawaiian island. All this time I'd been thinking it was somewhere between Phoenix and San Diego. In this episode the beach shots threw me until I googled the Z Nation wiki.

Seriously, Zona is supposed to be in Hawaii ?  I did not get that at all.  I also figured it was on the West Coast somewhere warm.

[SoSueMe]

I thought Zona was pre-ZA Arizona

[Richness]

I can understand General!!! Warren waking up in panties and a bra. But not in clear plastic high heels. WTF?!? That was worse than when Murphy's pet zombie girlfriend ran around in gogo slut attire for an entire season. At least they showed her switching to some boots at the end.

[Jordan61]

10 hours ago, ottoDbusdriver said:

does this mean that The Man is once and finally dead (or is he a zombie now too).  Was that The Man's remains at the cliff bottom ?

I was actually at the premiere last night, and they had a Q&A with some of the cast (10K, Doc, Warren, Murphy) and Karl Schafer. KS basically said The Man isn't going to be around anymore, but if he did show up again down the road he'd be pretty messed up (from the fall I guess, but Addy & Lucy seemed okay so I don't know).

Edited October 1, 2017 by Jordan61

[ottoDbusdriver]

2 hours ago, Richness said:

I can understand General!!! Warren waking up in panties and a bra. But not in clear plastic high heels. WTF?!? That was worse than when Murphy's pet zombie girlfriend ran around in gogo slut attire for an entire season. At least they showed her switching to some boots at the end.

Yeah, had Warren been wearing those clear plastic heels for 2 years ?  Just in case she woke up from her coma.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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Seriously, Zona is supposed to be in Hawaii ?  I did not get that at all.  I also figured it was on the West Coast somewhere warm.

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I thought Zona was pre-ZA Arizona

I dunno. The Z Nation wiki says it's in Hawaii but the map on Syfy shows it as being off the West coast in the Vancouver area. Then there's a spumor afloat that Zona is actually Zone A of some kind of alien governing body and that there are other zones.

The scenes seem too sunny for the Pacific Northwest to me, and again, the beach rules out Arizona per se, which is why I figured it was some kind meld of southern California and southwestern Arizona. Maybe the scenes were filmed in Hawaii but in show context Zona is somewhere else?

Edited October 1, 2017 by Joimiaroxeu

[raven]

You just know whatever Zona is - besides creepy as hell and Stepford-y; did you all catch the Founder's comment about Roberta being a great addition to the gene pool?? as well as the other woman's comment about keeping in shape for your man - it's not going to be around for long.

I love Roberta and she and Murphy play off of each other so well, I enjoy them together.  I'm not surprised that Murphy is part of the .01% or however he categorized it. 

I desperately want Roberta to get rid of that awful hair.  Is that supposed to be a byproduct of however she was healed?  And yeah, are we supposed to believe she was in a coma for 2 years in pristine white underwear and heels?  I wonder if her dreams are a version of the truth and they've been using her and wiping her memory somehow (yes, I watch too much of this stuff).

I floved Doc with the long hair and beard, LOL.  Addie's hair was also looking gorgeous; guess they found a cache of hair products somewhere.  I'm not believing 5K is really gone yet. 

Glad the show is back!

[ottoDbusdriver]

12 hours ago, raven said:

Addie's hair was also looking gorgeous; guess they found a cache of hair products somewhere.

And let's not forget the eyepatch -- it gives Addie a serious not-to-be-fucked-with look about her.

[Jordan61]

On 10/1/2017 at 7:50 AM, Joimiaroxeu said:

I dunno. The Z Nation wiki says it's in Hawaii but the map on Syfy shows it as being off the West coast in the Vancouver area. Then there's a spumor afloat that Zona is actually Zone A of some kind of alien governing body and that there are other zones.

The scenes seem too sunny for the Pacific Northwest to me, and again, the beach rules out Arizona per se, which is why I figured it was some kind meld of southern California and southwestern Arizona. Maybe the scenes were filmed in Hawaii but in show context Zona is somewhere else?

I would buy that they filmed the Zona scenes here in Spokane; we had a really hot sunny summer.

[phalange]

Finally got to catch up on this and I wasn't expecting a two-year jump. Zona is freakin' creepy and I don't blame Warren for trying to escape. I want to know what's causing her dreams/premonitions. 

It sucks that the group has been split up for so long but at least most of them are reunited now. I love Addy and Lucy's friendship and how Addy purposely avoids hitting the zombies for Lucy's sake. And they can communicate via telepathy now, which I'm guessing is a result of the bite mark on Addy's hand. 

I hope we find out what happened to Citizen Z and Kaya soon. Maybe they already made it to this "Newmerica" place, which I'm not entirely convinced is real or something other than a trap.

[piequinn35]

So how did Addy and Lucy survive the fall last season? did the z's help? or the trees?

[seacliffsal]

Now THAT is how to start a season!  I was blown away by the entire episode.  I thought it was very creative how they filled in the blanks in the two year time jump.  And, yes, I noticed Roberta's boots and figured I'd just go with it.

[10kfever]

On 9/30/2017 at 2:45 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Wonder why the writers felt like they had to do a 2-year flash forward? To justify Roberta turning into the Z Nation version of Barbarella? Maybe by the end of the season this will all have turned out to be a dream sequence.

That zombie cake was disgusting. Of course only post-apocalyptic whack jobs would eat something so gross and think it was hilarious.

I just learned that Zona is on a Hawaiian island. All this time I'd been thinking it was somewhere between Phoenix and San Diego. In this episode the beach shots threw me until I googled the Z Nation wiki.

Where is Citizen Z? Did he get flash-forwarded off the show?

When Northern Light was hacked, CZ traced the hack to Hawaii. Don't think that's where Zona is, although judging by the scenes we've see...bathing suits, tennis outfits, etc, it appears to be tropical. Off coast of Mexico perhaps. The fact that Warren and Murphy escape on a chopper means they can't be in Hawaii..the whole fuel consumption concept wouldn't permit such a long distance. Then again, maybe Zona has some sort of high-mileage helicopter. ?

I still think CZ will show up again. Maybe he's the one who established Newmerica and then brought the rest of the family from Alaska.

[Joimiaroxeu]

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he fact that Warren and Murphy escape on a chopper means they can't be in Hawaii..the whole fuel consumption concept wouldn't permit such a long distance.

Hawaii isn't the only place in the Pacific. They could've helicoptered to another island. Whatever, per the Syfy page for Z Nation, Zona appears to be off the coast of Vancouver. I can sort of buy that more than Hawaii because the foliage in the Zona scenes didn't look at all tropical to me. However, the scenes also seemed to be too bright and sunny for the Pacific Northwest. Meh, who knows?

[10kfever]

On to episode 4-3 or 4, I just can't keep track. To me, and it's just an opinion, these episodes have pretty much run together in sort of a tiring blandness. Weird sounds in the woods. Ooooooh! 10K running around, when experience and training says he should have been cutting sign. Unkillable zombie 1 attacks the Lt. and is shot in the head...again, and...what?...the Lt now thinks it's finally dead? Really? 

Now Lt is unkillable Z. I guess humans are at a distinct disadvantage because they no longer have any long knives, just plenty of bullets. Chopping the MAD-Zs to pieces would be so much more economical, but shooting the Lt to pieces was rather dramatic.

Finally, the group seems to be heading east per Warren's vision. Maybe something will actually happen next week. I'm starting to wonder if the show creators were flummoxed at the renewal, and they're stretching out the beginning of the season in their attempt to find a storyline. Yes, I'm unimpressed. Aargh!! My favorite new(ish) show just fell off the rails! But hey, 10K does bird calls, something we didn't know before.

I'm off to bury my head under a pillow. Sigh...

[Tippi Blevins]

I'm just now catching up on this season and I have an image in my head that 5k saved Addy and Lucy by letting them land on him.

Maybe Warren's shoes were prescription heels...

[Bec]

This is finally on Canadian Netflix!

It's been so long since I watched season 3, I've forgotten who Red is until there was a flashback that showed her in the all-red outfit she used to wear. And I had to look up who Sun Mei is. I vaguely remember how annoying 5K was, I would be fine with never seeing him again.

The first scene with Red I was pretty much like "who the hell is that? WTF, did they replace Addy with a random redhead?" Then I was glad to see Addy still on the show, and still has her Z-Whacker. That spiked bat brings more to the show than Red and 5K put together.