Friendly White Cloaks: Questions And Proclamations

[stillshimpy]

Thank you so much for doing this for us, SilverStormm, Mya Stone and Which Tyler.  Sincerely, it's so appreciated and you are all Giants among Men* in my eyes :-) (*universal rather than gender-specific us of Men).  

Thank you, thank you and thank you again. 

[WhiteStumbler]

<sniff> Smell that? It smells like... FREEDOM!

Many, many thanks to all of you volunteer mods, and to David for dealing with our... peculiar needs.

Pardon me while I go click some banner ads.

[gingerella]

Dear Volunteer Bookwalker mods,

Kind thanks for helping to provide safe haven for the brethren of the Spitball Wall Watch. I tip my hat to you, and offer you a hearty mug of grog! All hail the volunteer Bookwalkers!

[abelard]

Yes big thanks for this Habitat!!!!!  Thanks David, any and all mods involved, and shimpy!!!!!

[Mya Stone]

Hey everyone! 

In trying to keep you as Unsullied as possible, we wanted to give you a place where you can ask any of us White Cloaks any GOT related (forum or show) non spoilery questions or ask us to search for something for you that you may have run across spoilers doing yourself. (Aka a screenshot.)

I know there are bookwalkers who mean no harm and are trying to help you out, but we would prefer it if it went through us, to keep the "Only Observe The Unsullied In Their Natural Habitat - DO NOT FEED THEM" rule in tact. ;) 

So here's the thread to do it. For example, you want to know what map Bran was looking at in episode 5 of season 1? Or you can't remember the name of the inn that X & Y met in. Ask us here, and we'll be happy to find and post it. 

We will also be using this thread for any announcements we need (or just feel like ;) making.

[walnutqueen]

May all the Gods, Old and New, bless you for safeguarding our Realm.   All Hail!

Edited April 22, 2014 by SilverStormm
Continuity of conversation.

[walnutqueen]

Maybe you can answer a general question for this newbie:  Will there be 3 episode threads now?  I still see 2 threads in the GoT forum (Book Spoilers, No Spoilers), and another in the Unsullied forum.  What is the difference between the 2 non-spoilery threads?  A Woman must know where to go.

[Meredith Quill]

Understandably, all threads in here are marked No Spoilers.  Is it safe for someone whose limited book knowledge does not extend past the content in season two to read the untagged threads (e.g. the various houses) outside of this protected abode?  

Yes, it should be safe. The conversation in those threads only includes what has aired and anything book spoilery beyond that is behind spoiler tags. Hope that helps.

However, please bear in mind that to qualify as an Unsullied you should have no knowledge beyond the show; from the HBO static to closing credits, including HBO extra content etc. To clarify, as you have read the first 2 books we ask that you do not post in here, however, you are welcome to read the posts in the Unsullied Habitat. Thank you :)

[Mya Stone]

So I accidentally posted in the unsullied 4x2 episode thread when I should be posting in the unspoiled threads in the main forum (have very limited book knowledge of first two seasons, haven't read the books, do watch promos) because I was a wee bit confused. Sorry about that. But can you guys double check my post over there and delete or edit as appropriate? I was unspoiled on all levels for the episode so it should be fine but just in case... I'll go back to the main forum where I belong, now.

Your post's content is fine. As this is the first week of the official habitat, I am allowing it to pass as you have stated you haven't read the books. We will be deleting anyone's posts who are known as Bookwalkers, even as innocuous as they seem, for consistency's sake. I hope everyone who reads this understands why.

Thank you for your honesty, though! It's very much appreciated.

[David T. Cole]

Prefixes here now read "Unsullied Rules" and I edited the Welcome topic title to mirror this.

[stillshimpy]

HI Skywarpgold , good to see you.  White suits you :)  

Thank you for doing this! 

[Meredith Quill]

Let it be known, by all Bookwalkers & Unspoiled who enter, this particular realm is defended by unsullied guards known as White Cloaks whose sigil is a shield.

White Cloak Oath:
I do proclaim that I have read all the ASOIAF books, watched each and every episode and utterly spoiled myself on all that is Game of Thrones. I vow that I shall use this knowledge to uphold my first duty, which is to defend the unsullied kingdom from all unavowed Bookwalkers & spoilers from this day until my last day or until the last season of Game of Thrones ends (whichever comes first).

Furthermore, I solemnly swear as a champion of this, the purest of realms, to:
• Protect the innocence and defend the honor of the unsullied.
• To give counsel (via reports, announcements or non spoilery questions), otherwise to remain as an invisible &  silent sentinel.
• To be the shield against accursed ‘helpful’ extra information.
• To remain vigilant for rascally hints, knavish nudges and roguish ‘pay attention to this, wink winks’.
• To roam throughout the kingdom for spitball congratulators or confirmers and challenge them to trial by combat using my infallible mod amour and trusty (and un-named, ahem) Valyrian steel sword.

 

SilverStormm: I do so vow. The odd goblet of Arbor gold would be appreciated!

 

Mya Stone: I do so vow. And a goblet of Arbor Red would never be denied by me. ;)

 

Skywarpgold: I do so vow.

 

Athena: I do so vow. Where's my goblet of Dornish wine, please?

[Meredith Quill]

Mod Introductions:

Hi all,

I started reading the GOT books before the show existed and loved them. I also love the show but in a different way (books you are my first love, fear not!). I've been following your thread since season 1 on TWoP from a respectful distance naturally, so although you never knew me I was hanging out with you guys even before the spitball wall oath was created ;), thus, I am fully aware of what you do and don't allow within your realm regarding knowledge.

I have never spoiled anyone and as for people who do, well let's say I'd let Ramsay Snow at 'em!

I may not be around always at the same time alot of you guys are as I live in the UK, however, that being said, it is probably advantageous as it will allow more 'round the clock' coverage no doubt? It is worth noting that I am a night 'raven' so I do tend to be up quite late at night anyway.

To quote someone I know:

"May there always be peace in your realm".

 stillshimpy and all, 

I'll give a more detailed introduction!

I read the books first in 2003, and joined Westeros.org shortly after. I have had the privilege and honor of meeting GRRM himself, and even planned a human chess match for him in 2006. (Man, I sound like such a dork!) 

I met my fiancee due to the books (on Westeros). We denied where we met each other for years. It's still weird for us to see all the press for something we love so dearly. We have two boys...our youngest is named Bran, and yes, he's a climber. Go figure.

I have followed your thread from a distance from the beginning. You guys have quite the reputation on Westeros. (All good, I promise!) You have inspired us old-timers in your theories and enthusiasm for the show. 

I vow to never spoil you. My sister herself is a complete Unsullied, and I have yet to spoil her on anything. (She was none too pleased with me following the Red Wedding...)

It is an honor to watch your backs!

Hello all! I've just been knighted as another mod for the Unsullied Habitat, and wanted to say hi. I'm located just outside of Washington, DC, so I'll be watching the initial East Coast broadcasts live.

I started reading the books about 10 years ago, and have followed your unsullied adventures since you started in season 1. I look forward to working with you all!

Hello, everyone! I started reading the books a couple of years ago so they are still new to me, but fresh in my memory as result.

 

In addition to being a new mod here, I am a mod in a number of other forums including Books, Movies, Food, Health, Mad Men, Outlander (which is very similar in the books and show aspect), and a number of others. Those forums more or less summarises some of my interests. I am Canadian and was lucky enough to spend sometime in UK and Europe so I do tend to spell things the British way.

 

I vow to do my best to protect the fine folk of the Unsullied. I like a good goblet of wine and will do my best to feed and nourish you while also protecting you. Thank you!

[DirewolfPup]

I have no idea how to spell Warewood Tree. The mystical white trees with the red leaves and faces. Can a mod find this for me?

[Meredith Quill]

I have no idea how to spell Warewood Tree. The mystical white trees with the red leaves and faces. Can a mod find this for me?

Weirwood :)

[Meredith Quill]

Hi folks,

 

For those of you who don't know;

 

Handy Tip #1:

 

To quote a specific post in a different thread (rather than the whole thread), just click on the day/timestamp under the posters name and hey presto, a url will appear that you can copy/paste into your own post.

 

Have fun. :)

[Anothermi]

I have a plea to our benevolent WhiteCloaks...
 
Given the, uh, disruption (for lack of a better word) caused by the early and emphatic speculation that Olenna stole the poisoned jewel from Sansa's necklace...and dropped it in Joffrey's wine some how.  And especially the accompanying screen grabs which I, personally, find difficult - if not impossible - to ignore...
 
Could I ask that an Unsullied Habitat Rule be put in place that no screen-grab images be allowed in the Unsullied area?  Just links to screen grabs - which worked well for the grabs of the Book of the Knights Watch. 
 
It is a confusing transition to make (for me at least) from TWoP rules to Previously.TV rules.  (I can't imagine what trying to Mod a pre-established group must be like for you guys.)  What I know is that I have developed a strong ability - from my past 3 GoT seasons at TWoP -  to resist clicking on links but can't say the same for images - because they are just THERE.  You see them before you have time to think. 
 
I believe the speculation would have been a lot broader and the discussion wider ranging if the images hadn't dominated the "reading" experience.
 
Just putting this out there in hopes that it might assist both Me (in my unsullied speculation) and You (in your  greatly appreciated work assisting the Unsullied experience).

[Which Tyler]

We would like to suggest a "house rule" that images be added as links rather than as image attachments within threads.

 

This is not something that we can or will enforce; but would certainly like it to become the norm for all images, whether a screengrab or a funny, a picture of your cat, or whatever else.

We suggest that this is done by writing a brief description of the what the picture entails, then adding a hyperlink to the image itself (not its host page). This ensures that any images that were originally part of a conversation doesn't include a link to that conversation.

Please always double check your link to ensure that it's gone to the right place, and that there's nothing spoilery in the image title bar.

 

Example of end product:

 

Screengrab of title sequence, showing Astapor.

[Pallas]

Thank you, Ser Which!  Your and your colleagues help is a blessing.  Thank you, all the time.  

[Anothermi]

Thanks you for that suggestion.  It's a great idea.  How do posters become informed about new house rules?

[Which Tyler]

By reading this thread, and then self-policing

[90PercentGravity]

I'm not clear why a no image policy can't be enforced? What's the point of a rule that can't be enforced?

[Mya Stone]

I'm not clear why a no image policy can't be enforced? What's the point of a rule that can't be enforced?

@90PercentGravity It's more that we are asking you all to self-police this. We can not take away the capability to post images in the Habitat without taking away the capability from the entirety of PTV. We also try like heck to be available around the clock but can not promise this; hence why we're asking that you all start posting image hotlinks instead of direct images.

Of course, if we see something that is a direct spoiler we will remove it, but we are of the mindset that any screengrab from the show is not a spoiler, hence why we can't really enforce this rule - if we deleted pics that led you in a direction of thinking, it would be confirming the end product.

Not sure if I'm making too much sense here - wine and modding don't mix!

[Meredith Quill]

Hi all,

 

Just a friendly reminder that tonight's episode is the first one post TWoP closure, so you may see your ranks swell with others wanting to join the fun after ep8 has aired. If any land in the wrong place, just let us know and we'll redirect them to where they belong.

[stillshimpy]

Thanks for the reminder.  

[WhiteStumbler]

And so my watch begins.

[gingerella]

Thank you Silver, for sending us that ravengram, much appreciated by the Spitball Wall Watch. And now please excuse me, I must sharpen my Valerian steel sword, don my armor, and begin my watch beside WhiteStumbler.

Edited June 2, 2014 by gingerella

[gingerella]

To honor House White Cloak's bannermen rising together to protect us, we bequeath you our keep South of the Wall. Use it wisely.

[Meredith Quill]

Just an FYI for all:  If anyone ever needs to be reminded about facts or info (that has already been mentioned on the show), you can always ask one of the mods, we would be happy to help clear any non spoilery confusion up. i.e. where Ned & Robert grew up. I realise this particular question has already been resolved btw. You can either ask in here or PM us.

[stillshimpy]

Thank you, that's really helpful :-) 

[Meredith Quill]

For fun:

 

Feeling sad about the loss of any GoT character(s)? Go here to leave a virtual flower at their grave(s). Please do not read any comments at the bottom of the page. (There's no spoilers atm but that could change at any time).

[Meredith Quill]

Because you guys have been chatting about the world cup, I thought you'd enjoy this:

 

The Beautiful Game (of Thrones) World Cup/GoT mash up:

 

[stillshimpy]

That was hilarious, and the way the music was done -- Game of Thrones theme via computer synthesizer -- sounded soooo much like the old King's Quest (yeah, I've been a geek for a while).  

 

Thank you, Silver :-) 

[Anothermi]

Just catching up. I want to make sure that All you friendly White Cloaks know how much I appreciate the work you do keeping this habitat safe for us unsullied. I'm not usually an on time viewer - due to my work schedule - so by the time I start reading here you've usually got any spoilsport bookwalkers or misplaced "Unspoiled" cleared away.

I especially appreciate the special effort you all made when TWoP shut down (sniff). Makes for a great forum experience, so thanks again.

[Meredith Quill]

Thanks @Anothermi you're most welcome! :)

[Pallas]

Adding my appreciation to the White Cloaks for extraordinary service to our vulnerable breed.  On your initiative and on your own time.  You have made us so welcome, and sheltered us so well.  Seasons pass; Unsullied we remain!  Thank you, Mya Stone, SilverStormm, Skywarp Gold and Which Tyler.  

[stillshimpy]

Seconded.  Motion carried.  All the mods shall be spoken of with reverence and a mug of grog raised in their honor.  

 

Seriously, thank you  all.  You kept it fun for all of us and I'm grateful to all of you. 

[gingerella]

Dear House White Cloak,

 

It is with deepest respect and admiration that we, the Unsullied Brethren of the Spitball Wall, bend the knee to your benevolence, and good natured oversight of this, our Unsullied Habitat. We realize that we are a bit high maintenance and that you require additional squires, lords, and assorted bannermen to look after our unique needs. And while you expend much energy at times to protect our innocence, we hope that we, in turn, providith you with entertainment akin to a free grogfest at Ye Olde Kingsroad Inn.

 

So many kind thanks for protecting our Unsullied-ness this season. We are indebted to you.

 

The Spitball Wall

[Anothermi]

Question for the Protectors of our Habitat.  Where can I find the banana tree?  (Dorne seem too far away.)

 ;-P     **JK **

 

The real question is related to the fact that you are all volunteer Mods.  Back when TWoP existed, the Unsullied frequently continued to post speculations for a few weeks/months after each season ended.  At least once, we did a formal or perhaps I should say a scheduled re-watch of the season.  These post-show activities invariably brought out bookwalkers and spoilsports. 

 

So, my question to you is: what are your feelings about being tied to this voluntary job for an indeterminate period of time?  Was your commitment to Mod for us based on an expectation of a finite period of time?  Or, because "this habitat is not like the other" (™ Varys, with paraphrase) should we discuss with you ideas about continuing conversations in this place and set out parameters (timeframes in particular) IF there is an interest by a sufficient number of Unsullied?

 

I'm not actually proposing anything right now, but it dawned on me that I,  personally, assumed your commitment  to Modding us was tied to the show's official season, so I'd like to clear that up - for myself at least. 

[Meredith Quill]

@Anothermi,

 

That's a fair question: speaking for myself, I am here for the long haul, as I not only mod the habitat and main GoT forum but other ptv forums as well.

So, as far as I'm concerned: I expect to be watching over you all indefinitely. :)

 

I will let the other 3 mods answer for themselves.

[Anothermi]

Thanks for the response, guys.  I don't know if this section will be all that active.  The number of posters seems to have dwindled considerably since the move from TWoP.  I suppose its the Unspoiled/Unsullied distinction.  But it seemed to me that the flurry of posting that occurred after Seasons 1 & 2 has abated somewhat. 

 

At any rate, it's good to know you'll be around should you be needed.  

[90PercentGravity]

Would The Hedge Knight graphic novel violate the spirit of the unsullied?

 

"In this comic book/graphic novel adaptation set one hundred years before the events in George R.R. Martin’s epic fantasy series, A Song of Ice and Fire, The Hedge Knight chronicles a young squire as he travels the cruel and complex path to knighthood in the Seven Kingdoms."

[Which Tyler]

Yes, it absolutely would.

It's set in the same world, and written by the same author - very much supplemental information.

[Meredith Quill]

Hello all,

 

A quick FYI; we're going to be creating topics for seasons 1-3 episodes, so that if any new unsullied joins or you guys want to do a rewatch at any point you can discuss away.

[stillshimpy]

Okay, cool :-)  

 

I know you don't need input on that just letting you know, "This has been seen, and as with all things that have been seen, it cannot be unseen." (battle cry of the Unsullied as we stick our heads into the sand).  

 

Seriously though, on one of my computers I use the Unsullied Habitat page as my home page, so I'm always wandering through here throughout the course of a day.  So...yes....been seen :-)  

[Meredith Quill]

It is with a heavy heart that we must announce the departure of one of our beloved White Cloaks; Which Tyler, we wish him good health & good luck in his future endeavours!

 

Please direct any GoT queries or questions you may have to the 3 remaining White Cloaks as of now. Thanks

[Anothermi]

Thanks for letting us know, Silverstormm.

Thank you Which Tyler for your stellar defence of us unsullied and our very particular/peculiar requirements.

I especially remember that you were up at 05:30 on your day off - and before even seeing the episode under discussion - to guard us all for the first episode that aired after TWOP forums shut down.

I wish you the best as you move on.

[stillshimpy]

Thanks for everything, Which Tyler, be well and happy in all that you do.  

 

You really went above and beyond the call for us.  Thank you so much. 

[WhiteStumbler]

Many thanks. We shall never see his like again. And now his watch has ended.

[Pallas]

To you three remaining: the inexplicable, undeniable, synergistic brio of the trio of Stannis Baratheon, Mance Rayder and Jon Snow.  Swords bared, heads bared, accents unbent.