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Artistic Gymnastics: Stick the Landing!

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GreyBunny
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Gabby has worked her ass off for years, has been a proud member of the US team, and is a great role model for young kids who are up and coming. To say that her not putting her hand over her heart nega

KBrownie
KBrownie

It's not about being "PC" as you put it.  He literally tried to erase her parents from her life to fit whatever narrative he has in his head about what family means.  It's not some trite quibble over

walnutqueen
walnutqueen

Protocol is not law, and has nothing to do with being an American.  Fortunately, Americans live in a free country where they have the right to disagree with your sentiments and still be Americans (and

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pivot

pivot

3 minutes ago, Jillibean said:

Jim Watson: "I don't like that people were EXPECTING her to win five gold medals. No one has ever done that. She has three golds and a bronze--that's spectacular!" Between that and Jon saying yesterday that an Olympic medal is an Olympic medal and it's great--no judgment--I give our livestream commentators major props.

Also love Jon asking self-proclaimed "dumb questions" about women's gymnastics to Courtney.

Why can't they be our prime time commentators? So much better than Al and Tim.

That poor Swiss gymnast.

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DawnDavenport

DawnDavenport

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6 minutes ago, azshadowwalker said:

 

Sad for Ponor, though. I still think the Sydney Olympics had the most fucked up gymnastics ever. From the misalignment of the vaulting horse that ended it for Khorkina to the stripping of the AA gold over fucking cold medicine. If that lost AA medal really did signal the end of it for Romania, that sucks. (Although I have my doubts about that claim by the melodramatic twosome on NBC, since they still took gold and silver.)

Plus didn't they retroactively give her the medal back? I thought they did. The reason for the decline is that they just weren't able to keep up and even on their good events, their form kinda sucked. They never improved bars and it was always very weak, and they were surpassed on beam and floor but other countries. Everyone got sick of the Romanian choo-choo.

I always thought they were overrated. They played it safe and it paid off a couple of times.

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Elsydeon

Elsydeon

Just now, DawnDavenport said:

Plus didn't they retroactively give her the medal back? I thought they did. The reason for the decline is that they just weren't able to keep up and even on their good events, their form kinda sucked. They never improved bars and it was always very weak, and they were surpassed on beam and floor but other countries. Everyone got sick of the Romanian choo-choo. 

She never got her medal back, unfortunately.

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pivot

1 minute ago, Daisy said:

Aly nailed it. I think that was cleaner and executed better than Simone. but I think SImone gets the difficulty. 

It really wasn't. Courtney is being diplomatic by saying she has form problems in the air. Aly has a lot of form problems and always has. Part of it is her poor flexibility compared to other gymnasts. Part of it is her inability to get a lot of amplitude in her leaps. Part of it is her not point toes and bending her legs. She has some ugly form.

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Daisy

Daisy

3 minutes ago, pivot said:

It really wasn't. Courtney is being diplomatic by saying she has form problems in the air. Aly has a lot of form problems and always has. Part of it is her poor flexibility compared to other gymnasts. Part of it is her inability to get a lot of amplitude in her leaps. Part of it is her not point toes and bending her legs. She has some ugly form.

I noticed that on the replays :) (the first time I was looking more on the landings, and such). 
I am noticing that Aly isn't very flexible. (which is weird, because you'd think a gymnast would be incredibly so). 

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pivot

2 minutes ago, DawnDavenport said:

Why is Ferrari even using music? Her routine is completely disconnected from what we're hearing. Terrible. 

Yeah, it was bad. Thrilled she didn't medal and not just because her routine was crap. She also said some incredibly racist stuff about Biles last year. 

Love this lineup. Nice to see Tinkler get a bronze. And for Biles to become the reigning Olympic Floor Champion. She truly is out of the world on this event.

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DawnDavenport

DawnDavenport

Just now, kittykat said:

Amy Tinkler holds on for bronze.  YAY Simone and Aly!  Great job US ladies.  One of the best years we've ever had.  4/6 Golds.  Everyone minus Gabby gets an individual medal (not discounting you in any way Gabby we love you, screw the haters.)  A wonderful end to Marta's Final Five.

Gabby has 3 golds total so I'm sure she's not too disappointed. So the Women have

Team Gold

AA: Gold, Silver

Vault: Gold

Bars: Silver

Beam: Silver, Bronze

Floor: Gold, Silver

What a feat!

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pivot

Just now, Daisy said:

I noticed that on the replays :) (the first time I was looking more on the landings, and such). 
I am noticing that Aly isn't very flexible. (which is weird, because you'd think a gymnast would be incredibly so). 

She tends to get hammered for her poor flexibility, toe points and bent legs but this Olympics they really overlooked a lot of it. She scored a lot higher than I expected on many events. But, to Aly's credit, she has worked on her flexibility and toe points. She used to be a lot worse. 

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Apocalypse Cow

Apocalypse Cow

1 minute ago, pivot said:

Yeah, it was bad. Thrilled she didn't medal and not just because her routine was crap. She also said some incredibly racist stuff about Biles last year. 

Love this lineup. Nice to see Tinkler get a bronze. And for Biles to become the reigning Olympic Floor Champion. She truly is out of the world on this event.

Was it Ferrari or Ferraro who said the nasty stuff about Simone?

kittykat

kittykat

1 minute ago, Daisy said:

what pissed me off on that - is that 4 years later that drug was taken off WADA's doping list. like crying out loud give the woman her medal. 

I remember reading about the Andreea Raducan situation.  I felt so bad for her.  It was kind of out of her control and, yeah, the stupid ingredient was removed.  WAG in Sydney was just a bitter blotch on its history.

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Daisy

Daisy

1 minute ago, kittykat said:

I remember reading about the Andreea Raducan situation.  I felt so bad for her.  It was kind of out of her control and, yeah, the stupid ingredient was removed.  WAG in Sydney was just a bitter blotch on its history.

 

I still very much maintain - the moment they realised the vault was off - that meet should have been scratched, and could have easily been done a day or two later. The fact that Svetlana Khorkina didn't go nuclear about learning that vault was the wrong height is beyond me, i would have gone legitimate Carrie in that situation. 

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pivot

1 minute ago, choclatechip45 said:

9 medals by the US women's team most ever. Previous was 8 for the '08 team. Simone has the most golds ever while Aly is now behind Shannon Miler for most Olympic Medals.

That's impressive. Miller is still ahead of Aly in National/World medals. But, Aly has definitely exceeded expectations. 

I am hoping Gabby sticks around for another Worlds so she goes out on a happier note and that Aly has everything she needs and retires. 

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DawnDavenport

DawnDavenport

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8 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

Ferrari was the one Ferraro originally made the comment too. 

So I guess all the other Americans that beat them was because they were white? Ferrari was able to capitalize in a transition year when the new scoring and code was introduced. She's been a non-factor since. What about all the other white people between her (Ferlito) and Simone? I guess they don't count. It's not like she finished second or anything in a close battle. 

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windsprints

windsprints

2 minutes ago, Apocalypse Cow said:

So, do we hate Ferrari because of that? Or did she do something else? I'm just wondering why everyone is made at her.  I don't care that she didn't medal, I'm just curious at the vitriol towards her.

The only thing I am aware of is that Carlotta Ferlito made her racist comments to Ferrari.  I don't hate Ferrari for it because one cannot control what someone else says to them but YMMV.

Great medal ceremony. Congrats to all the winners!

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pivot

pivot

5 minutes ago, Daisy said:

 

I still very much maintain - the moment they realised the vault was off - that meet should have been scratched, and could have easily been done a day or two later. The fact that Svetlana Khorkina didn't go nuclear about learning that vault was the wrong height is beyond me, i would have gone legitimate Carrie in that situation. 

I agree with you on that. Not a Khorkina fan but she had every right to be pissed. They are just lucky no one got seriously injured.

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choclatechip45

choclatechip45

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10 minutes ago, pivot said:

That's impressive. Miller is still ahead of Aly in National/World medals. But, Aly has definitely exceeded expectations. 

I am hoping Gabby sticks around for another Worlds so she goes out on a happier note and that Aly has everything she needs and retires. 

Crazy that Gabby and Aly have the same exact individual World medals both have one. If Gabby wants to stick around she should try for 2017 worlds easier field.

I agree Aly exceeded expectations I remember when people thought she wouldn't make the 2012 team and she should only be a 3 event gymnast.

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