Affogato September 13 Share September 13 (edited) I don’t normally get irate at shows. I can something get upset by fans, even triggered. But I don’t even remember the episode well enough to discuss it. I also don’t feel protective of Cordelia or Xander. Edited September 13 by Affogato 2 Link to comment
Blergh September 13 Share September 13 (edited) Here's an oldie but baddie: In the Canadian series, Road to Avonlea, (1990-1997)they had the protagonist have a most toxic reaction in the very first episode. Let me explain. Sara Stanley (played by the even-then brilliant Sarah Polley) had been the preteen only child of the wealthy magnate Blair who she believed had been framed but had been sent to the home village of her late mother Ruth King Stanley to try to spare her from being tarred via the scandal with her lifelong caregiver called Nanny Louisa. Alas, almost immediately Nanny Louisa clashed with Ruth's eldest unmarried sister Hetty King (who, as it turned out was also the town schoolteacher so Sara had to deal with her in and outside class) and this resulted in Hetty throwing Nanny Louisa out of her house of Rose Cottage with Nanny Louisa attempting to sneak Sara out but being caught by Hetty with Hetty threatening to press kidnapping charges against the elderly caregiver if she didn't leave PEI sans Sara at once! Now, I perfectly understand WHY Sara would get upset over this turn of events (along with being teased by her initially mean cousins Felicity and Felix King for being too pampered). However Sara's reaction was rather appalling- she went on a HUNGER STRIKE refusing to eat ANYthing either Hetty or her sweet youngest aunt Olivia offered her unless they brought back Nanny Louisa. As I said, I understand why the girl was upset losing the last link to her old life and the only reliable caregiver she'd known. However, what were the showrunnners THINKING depicting a preteen girl having a hunger strike on a show with its main intended audience being OTHER preteen girls (a demographic not unknown to have eating disorders)?! Did they not consider that promoting a self-destructive, health if not life-risking action by their protagonist might not have been the healthiest storyline to depict -especially considering that Hetty dismissed it to be a mere dramatic ploy on Sara's part(as, alas far too many RL so-called parents and guardians have done often to the detriment and wrecked health of their anguished offspring). Thankfully, the hunger strike got resolved and two of them somewhat made up their differences by the end of the episode and decided to give each other a chance to get to know each other and possibly like each other for who they were (and it should be said that even her initially mean cousins wound up showing more likable sides by the end of that episode). However (for the audience's sake) I still think the writers should have found another means for Sara to express her initial anger,etc. besides conducting a hunger strike! Edited September 14 by Blergh 2 Link to comment
Affogato September 13 Share September 13 On 5/5/2024 at 9:45 PM, Mabinogia said: That is kind of surprising given how racy/dirty that show was. Honestly, I loved it as a kid so most of what they were saying/implying went way over my head at the time. Watching it back now (Pluto TV) often has reruns and I'll go on a binge because I love Brett and Charles being all drunk up on the top row and Dickie Dawson being all sexy on the bottom, I see just how far that show pushed the envelope that I'm a bit surprised the network pushed back on genitalia. I guess that was one step too far for them? Wonder if they'd have allowed any of the slang words for it as you could pretend they were referencing other things, like kitties or hot dogs haha It is funnier if it is bleeped out or left hanging. 1 Link to comment
ABay October 20 Share October 20 I don't know where to put this. Rock paper scissors says here, so... Last night I was watching a YT video about the Mandela Effect and bailed during the first segment. It was about Mickey Mouse and the Mandela effect concerns whether or not he wore suspenders. The images all show him without them and it's probably those two weird button/dots/whatever on his shorts that lead people to the suspenders idea. So far, so good. But the next bit was about how some people insist Mickey had a tail, which the narrator tells us he did not. Except at least half of the images show him with a tail. If that isn't a tail, I dread to think what that long string coming out the back of his shorts is. WTF, Narrator Dude? 5 2 Link to comment
andromeda331 October 21 Share October 21 I watch Wagon Train on Saturday mornings with my dad. This one episode the Benjamin Burns. The wagon train is out of water and still a could days before they can get to the next place with water. This old man Benjamin Burns says he knows of a pond nearby. No one believes him because no one else has ever heard of it. But they also have no choice but to send a few men looking for it. Benjamin goes, along with a jerk, McCullough and Benjamin's granddaughter's fiance John who insists on going with. The men set off looking for the water. They get to a point with a whole bunch of rocks blocking the path. Benjamin insists the pond is somewhere around here. They all split off and no one finds it. Benjamin climbs the rocks but he slips and falls. He's seriously injured and looks like he's going to die at any moment. The jerk wants to live Benjamin behind since he's going to die anyway. McCullough insists on waiting with Benjamin and so does the fiance. The jerk leaves. John and McCullough keep waiting for Benjamin to die. But he doesn't. They're out of water and all very thirsty and it's very hot as time goes by. The John suddenly starts saying they should leave and getting upset that Benjamin won't die. He thinks they should just leave him behind. Remember, this is his fiancee's grandfather and he chose to stay. McCullough doesn't want to leave Benjamin and he falls asleep. John keeps going back and forth on killing Benjamin. He has his gun out ready to shoot him. Instead he covers him with clothing and smothers him. Benjamin struggles but soon falls still. John quickly tells McCullough that Benjamin died, they bury him and start back to the Wagon Train when they find the water Benjamin talked about. It really did exist. They get back to the Wagon Train and tell everyone that Benjamin died. His fiance is very sad but glad he wasn't alone when he died. Well, Benjamin's not dead. He returns to the Wagon Train pissed but he thinks it was McCullough who killed him. He tells everyone and they immediately grab McCullough playing to kill him right then and there. John says nothing. McCullough doesn't remember doing it but he had a dream of killing Benjamin so he's not completely sure. Benjamin has a button from McCullough shirt so everyone grabs him again abount to kill him. John finally admits that he was the one who tried to kill Benjamin. Everyone gets rightly mad at the John including his fiancee. Benjamin speaks up and defends John and forgives him for trying to kill him and thinks he's granddaughter shoud forgive him too. For trying to kill her grandfather. And she forgives him. Ah, what? I know they were out of water, in the sun and stuff. But John chose to go with Benjamin to look for water. He chose to stay after John was hurt when he could have returned with the other guy. He then immediately gets mad that Benjamin won't die and tried to kill him. It's only pure luck that Benjamin didn't die and managed to crawl back to the Wagon Train or no one would have ever found out what he did. And he's just forgiven? Why would you forgive someone who just tried to kill you? Or your grandfather? Why should he be forgiven? Everything he did was his own fault! He tried to kill a man, he lied to everyone and he original said nothing when everyone though McCullough did it. Also Benjamin also wanted to make sure McCullough paid for it when he thought he did it. But no not John who actually did do it? What the hell? John should be in jail. Not get off scot free. 1 3 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule October 24 Share October 24 Just finished a binge marathon of Miami Vice and I‘m peeved that: the show never had Rico learn his baby wasn’t murdered and someone would have returned him to his dad. That idiot writers in season 3 totally rewrote Gina’s history-her FATHER was alive and warned her about rebounding men! that the show ended with Sonny abandoning Elvis! Poor Gator. Sonny should have stolen the boat. I’m assuming he would have kept his promise to take Billy for the summers wherever he and Rico ended up. Sigh. Different writers and producers since the the third season would account for this I guess. Can’t believe Dick Wolf who gave us original awesome Law & Order, was so awful as producer and writer for this show. Along with Robert Palm, Michael Duggan, and Daniel Sackiem(sp?). 3 Link to comment
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