Spoiler Discussion Thread

[looptab]

3 hours ago, Angel12d said:

Ugh, I knew it. Oliver will be telling Diggle over Skype that he has hope for him and Felicity, cut to Felicity snuggling up with the mayo bread. So the ambiguity is totally that they're on different pages. Cue new love interest for Oliver post 505 once he finds out. 

I'm sorry, I must be really slow these days..once he finds out what? I thought 

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the BF dies in the premiere.

ETA: sorry for the multiple posts, I thought they would be incorporated.

Edited October 2, 2016 by looptab

[tv echo]

My new conspiracy theory: The Green Arrow Rebirth comics (with their resurrected GA/BC soap opera romance) have been well-received enough that DC Comics wants the TV show to become closer aligned with the current comics. So Arrow is slowly weaning viewers off of Olicity and introducing a 'new and improved' saint-like version of Laurel/BC, who will have none of the sister-swapping baggage due to Flashpoint.

Edited October 2, 2016 by tv echo

[Guest]

1 minute ago, looptab said:

I'm sorry, I must be really low these days..once he finds out what? I thought 

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the BF dies in the premiere.

Once he finds out Felicity has a boyfriend. Sorry but I don't think he dies in the premiere. The boyfriend is played by Tyler Ritter, someone totally different to the one presumably killed by Prometheus. That's played by #Poppy's real life husband.

[Chaser]

If they make an episode where Oliver and Laurel got together in another timeline, I need references to him cheating and her dumping him because she can't support him and then I need a whole media blitz about how they really wanted to give the comic books what they wanted and were asking for.

[apinknightmare]

3 minutes ago, tv echo said:

My new conspiracy theory: The Green Arrow Rebirth comics (with their resurrected GA/BC soap opera romance) have been well-received enough

They aren't going to change a show's direction to appease a group of comic fans that's about the size of a percentage point of their total audience. 

Edited October 2, 2016 by apinknightmare

[looptab]

5 minutes ago, Angel12d said:

Once he finds out Felicity has a boyfriend. Sorry but I don't think he dies in the premiere. The boyfriend is played by Tyler Ritter, someone totally different to the one presumably killed by Prometheus. That's played by #Poppy's real life husband.

Oh, okay. Thanks. :)This is what happens when I catch up with three pages of specs at once - it all mixes up, haha.

[apinknightmare]

11 minutes ago, Angel12d said:

The boyfriend is played by Tyler Ritter, someone totally different to the one presumably killed by Prometheus. That's played by #Poppy's real life husband.

RIP Mr. Poppy. Thankfully we hardly knew ye.

[dtissagirl]

Did we get confirmation that it's Mr. #Poppy who dies? I totally missed that.

[Guest]

Just now, dtissagirl said:

Did we get confirmation that it's Mr. #Poppy who dies? I totally missed that.

It looked like it based on the screencaps. 

[Lily-n11]

In Laura Hurley I trust...

[Guest]

Why does everyone trust Laura Hurley? I don't. Sorry! :/

[Chaser]

9 minutes ago, Angel12d said:

Ugh, I knew it. Oliver will be telling Diggle over Skype that he has hope for him and Felicity, cut to Felicity snuggling up with the mayo bread. So the ambiguity is totally that they're on different pages. Cue new love interest for Oliver post 505 once he finds out. 

I don't like anything they've said about Felicity as it reads exactly like hater talk to me. Like, "She's killed more than everyone!" "What kind of person does that?!" They can honestly miss me with this utter garbage they're pulling. 

And KC coming back alive is like the crappy cherry on the shitty sundae, even though I totally expected it. Haha. Bye.

I don't think the show is going to make Felicity the villain of Havenrock. I think she will be told she saved millions of lives, that DD forced her hand and is responsible for everything. BUT it doesn't change the fact that is was Felicity's decision to point that missile to Havenrock. She should feel guilt and wonder if she made that right choice. She should go over every what if to try and figure out if there was something she could do to save those lives. That is a human response. 

I don't think the EPs are saying what the Haters are. Haters are ignoring her dilemma and the only other option she had (which was do nothing and let millions die). EPs are saying she made a choice that saved millions but the consequence was the death of thousands. How do you cope with that? How do face your new teammate? How do you get called a hero knowing you orphaned children?

If the EPs came out and just said oh Felicity shouldnt feel any guilt because DD murdered all those people. Then there is no story for Felicity with Havenrock. And I for one would be incrediblly dissapointed that they are glossing over such deep, real reaction. 

[Chaser]

2 minutes ago, Angel12d said:

Why does everyone trust Laura Hurley? I don't. Sorry! :/

I trust her because our viewpoints of the show align. Generally, if she likes the episode so do I.

Her writes on LL and the failure of BC are Gold. As well as the Ollie hair jokes. 

[Lady Calypso]

So, Laurel could be coming back from the dead after the crossovers? 

Hmm. Maybe that's a good time to stop putting Arrow as a TV priority for me. Frankly, it's Mericle and Guggenheim's lies that are really pissing me off. If E1 Laurel is brought back from the dead after they said multiple times that she'd stay dead, then why should I stick around if all they're going to do is lie? If you can't trust the showrunners, then who can you trust? 

Everything about season 5 is just making me more and more depressed. Can someone remind me of some of the positives about season 5? 

[dtissagirl]

1 minute ago, Chaser said:

BUT it doesn't change the fact that is was Felicity's decision to point that missile to Havenrock.

This is semantics, and this is also the hill I'm gonna die in for Felicity this season, but she didn't point the missile anywhere. She realigned the GPS system to spoof the missile. Which made it look like Monument Point was 20 miles off where it actually is, and the consequence was that the missile hit Havenrock instead. But she had absolutely zero control over where exactly the missile would hit, except that it wasn't MP.

[looptab]

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 As we know from Seasons 1 and 2, that is a huge decision, to go back to his old ways, to go back to his use of lethal force. Again, I think this speaks to the threat that Damien Darhk presented and ... Laurel died. What they're taking on as vigilantes is a serious business. People can die out there. And as he says in the premiere, if he's not willing to go to that place, he shouldn't be out there at all. 

I'm sorry, I know I've been harping on this for a while, but I just can't reconcile this with what we've known about Oliver for the past three years. While I do believe that the absolute of the No Kill Rule is dumb..what does this mean for Oliver? For his own morality and state of mind? Now he'll be realizing  that he shouldn't be out there if he's not willing to kill, yet I seem to remember 410, the conversation he had with Felicity at the hospital where he was beating himself up about the same issue - "If I'd been willing to kill him, you wouldn't be here, what's the point of doing this if I can't protect the people closest to me" - and her saying "What's the point if you lose yourself in the process". I just can't follow this. I don't understand neither the perspective nor the trajectory. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Chaser said:

I don't think the show is going to make Felicity the villain of Havenrock. I think she will be told she saved millions of lives, that DD forced her hand and is responsible for everything. BUT it doesn't change the fact that is was Felicity's decision to point that missile to Havenrock. She should feel guilt and wonder if she made that right choice. She should go over every what if to try and figure out if there was something she could do to save those lives. That is a human response. 

I don't think the EPs are saying what the Haters are. Haters are ignoring her dilemma and the only other option she had (which was do nothing and let millions die). EPs are saying she made a choice that saved millions but the consequence was the death of thousands. How do you cope with that? How do face your new teammate? How do you get called a hero knowing you orphaned children?

If the EPs came out and just said oh Felicity shouldnt feel any guilt because DD murdered all those people. Then there is no story for Felicity with Havenrock. And I for one would be incrediblly dissapointed that they are glossing over such deep, real reaction. 

IDK. All I'm going on right now is the fact that WM sounds like she's channelling r*ddit and all the nonsense about Felicity being a mass murderer, like she even had a choice in the matter. They're acting like she's the one who released the nukes when she was the only one who could stop them. Combined with how badly they've treated Felicity's storyline since forever and how they're throwing another dick at her just to push O/F apart and increase Oliver's manpain, I have no faith in anything. They haven't earned that faith either, especially not after 4b. I don't think I even want to wait and see to find out because they're losing me on every level as a viewer. 

[JJ928]

So I'm gonna be odd man out here but I don't think KC being in episode 5x10 means she's back on a regular basis. I do think they could bring her in as Black Siren, who perhaps wasn't captured or escaped because of Flashpoint. I'm just gonna wait to see how Katie is billed on Wednesday. Until then, I do think she'll be in a couple Arrow eps (other than premier) but that's it. I'm honestly more worried about them giving Felicity an actual storyline this year. All of the vagueness doesn't instill any hope or confidence. 

[apinknightmare]

3 minutes ago, dtissagirl said:

This is semantics, and this is also the hill I'm gonna die in for Felicity this season, but she didn't point the missile anywhere. She realigned the GPS system to spoof the missile. Which made it look like Monument Point was 20 miles off where it actually is, and the consequence was that the missile hit Havenrock instead. But she had absolutely zero control over where exactly the missile would hit, except that it wasn't MP.

I hope they aren't setting this up as "Felicity made a difficult choice" kind of thing, doing some revisionist history about what actually happened. She didn't pick where to aim it, she just did the only thing she could to definitely get it away from a heavily populated area. 

[dtissagirl]

2 minutes ago, apinknightmare said:

I hope they aren't setting this up as "Felicity made a difficult choice" kind of thing, doing some revisionist history about what actually happened. She didn't pick where to aim it, she just did the only thing she could to definitely get it away from a heavily populated area. 

Yeah. I think I've said it before, but I'm okay with Felicity feeling responsible, and if she's internalizing Havenrock as her having intention in it. And, like, I'm imagining Ragman is probably gonna say all of this shit too [and hopefully learn to understand what Felicity did if he's to be a hero and a team member].

But if Oliver and/or Diggle subscribe to this line of thinking that she had intention in Havenrock being destroyed, that'll be legit the quickest way for me to turn the episode off and declare the show dead.

[Chaser]

I should have used divert instead of point. 

I just understand why she would feel guilt over what happened with Havenrock. And why she would feel that she was responsible for their deaths. I don't want the show to put the blame on her. I want people to tell her there was no choice. I want DD's responsibility to be heavily outlined. 

[Lily-n11]

Arrow PR this year clearly was not made for me. With every interview I'm just....grrrr. There is not enough Diggle and Felicity in the promos. But I've decided to wait until I see the actual episodes. I stuck with House until the beginning of season 6 even if I didn't like the direction that show was going after season 3.

Since MG said more than once that they have no influence on the promos I'm not ready to quit the show based only on them. I want to see where they go with Felicity and Diggle's stories.

RE: Laura Hurley.   So far she has never been a "Tiffany" (morning after 320) and I agreed with most of her reviews. I like her kind of humor and there is her love for Mulder & Scully I can relate to.

[apinknightmare]

1 minute ago, dtissagirl said:

Yeah. I think I've said it before, but I'm okay with Felicity feeling responsible, and if she's internalizing Havenrock as her having intention in it.

Yeah, I think it would be difficult not to feel guilty over it regardless of the circumstances that led to what she did, but I'm just hoping she never breathes a word about making any kind of decision, and if she does then I want everyone around her to correct that line of thinking. 

[tv echo]

1 hour ago, tv echo said:

Remember these quotes from right after 401 aired (with grave flash-forward)?

MG: "It’s not a fake-out. That’s not how we roll... It’ll feel organic and very earned. It’s actually very elegant.” (Variety, ETonline, TVLine, Collider, EW, Hollywood Reporter and DocBrown TV articles, page 22 of Spoilers thread)

WM: "They will stay dead... We want to bring stakes back to the show, and so we’ll be finding a way to handle the Lazarus Pit portion in Season 4 in a new, inventive way that I can’t reveal. But it’ll be cool.” (Variety, ETonline, TVLine, Collider, EW, Hollywood Reporter and DocBrown TV articles, page 22 of Spoilers thread)

WM: “We don’t necessarily know who it is [that died] right now... We’re still figuring the plan out for the season, but we want it, obviously, to have resonance. If it doesn’t mean something to the characters, it won’t mean anything to the audience either.” (ETonline, Collider, EW and DocBrownTV articles, page 22 of Spoilers thread)

Compare to these quotes from right after 418 aired (Laurel's death)...

Q: "So could Laurel come back to life?"
MG: “Not getting a chance to work with Katie day in and day out is tempered by the fact that we now live in a universe where there’s resurrection, parallel earths, time travel, flashbacks — we have all these different ways of keeping Katie in the Arrow-verse family... In fact, you will see her on an episode of Flash playing the Earth-2 version of Laurel Lance. Katie is reprising her role as Laurel of Earth-1 to be in Vixen season 2. Death does not mean goodbye on any of these shows, but we made a creative choice and we’re sticking to it. We’re recognizing that Black Canary and Laurel have an incredibly loyal fanbase, and Katie has an incredibly loyal fanbase, but the show has never been just about the comic book history, it’s never been just about one or two different particular fanbases. We make the creative choices we feel benefit the show as a whole and the story that we’re telling overall.”
Q: "But by bringing her back on other shows, doesn’t that cheapen Laurel’s death?"
MG: "We definitely recognize across all three shows that when we kill off a character, it means something different now... I'm not going to put a qualitative judgment on whether it’s more or less impactful. I’ll leave that to the audience, but certainly we acknowledge there’s a difference. Arrow, much more so than Flash or Legends, it traffics in death. We started off the series of the apparent death of Sara Lance and the actual death of Robert Queen and a hero who murdered people. For better or for worse, death is part of the show. What we’re finding is that death now, as it should by the way, when you start to get where we are pushing into season 5, the show has to evolve, it has to change. The concept of death on this show is evolving and changing as we’ve already seen with Sara Lance, and with seeing Laurel in a parallel universe. There’s a world where we do an episode where Oliver Queen meets the Laurel Lance of Earth-2. That’s now on the table. Time travel is now on the table. As the show has evolved, so has death.”
Q: "Okay, so [Oliver] didn’t help Laurel fake her own death?"
MG: "No... We’ve done a fake death before. That’s the thing, we’re always trying to figure out, ‘What’s a way to do this?’ That fake-out where she was okay and then she wasn’t was our attempt: How do we do a death that we haven’t done before? [It’s a] creative challenge, the deeper you get into your story. It’s the nature of having a long-running show that deals as a major component of it with death.”
Q: "Is Laurel’s death, as they say on TV, a game-changer?"
WM: “We do feel like it is a game-changer in a very sad way that we’re losing a beloved character, but also in the sense that big moves like this will open up new storytelling avenues and will force our characters to rethink their decisions and their objectives... Death is a reality. With the Lazarus Pit and the possibility of coming back, it’s easy, in some ways, to forget that our characters are vigilantes. They’re out on the street, they’re doing really dangerous things. What this does is it really brings that reality back in a very rude and brutal way. It’s good for the audience to be reminded of that and for our characters as well.”
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/04/06/arrow-laurel-death-spoilers

TVLINE: "What were the arguments for and against the death being Laurel?"
MG: "The argument against it was the fact that we all love Katie. We love working with Katie, we love having her on the show. We love the fact that she plays Black Canary. [Another reason is] quite frankly the fact that there would be some corners of the Internet who in a season where Oliver got engaged to Felicity would interpret this as us choosing a side in the “shipper wars.” With respect to that last point, we felt like we had told the Oliver/Laurel love story in Season 1, and we had no intention of getting them back together. We never felt like we had to kill off Laurel to put an end to that story."
MG: "The reason to [kill Laurel off] is it is big. It is bold. It does move the show forward. It does impact all of our characters. Diggle and Thea in particular will be making a lot of choices from now until the end of the season that are directly influenced by the events of this episode. Fundamentally, whenever we kill off a character, it usually comes down to, 'How will this death impact all the other characters?' Then there’s also the feeling of: We’ve had Laurel be in love with Oliver, fall out of love with Oliver… be in love with Tommy, lose Tommy… hit bottom, have a drug addiction… rise up, become the Black Canary."
MG: "Long story short, we were looking ahead toward Season 5 and we were like,Arrow “It kind of feels like Laurel’s story has come to a very organic… if not 'conclusion,' certainly a 'plateau.'"
MG: "I said to [Katie Cassidy] that between the three shows we have time travel, resurrection, parallel universes and flashbacks — dead does not mean goodbye."
http://tvline.com/2016/04/06/arrow-katie-cassidy-leaving-laurel-dies-grave-season-4/

MG: "Arrow is always a show that's evolving. Every character arguably except for the Arrow is fair game... We started off this year with a promise of a death and when we worked our way through our various creative choices, we realized that the thing that will give us the most pop going into the end of the season, going into next season, unfortunately would be Laurel."
MG: "We knew that it would enrage a lot of people... We're not immune to the [fans rooting for Oliver and Laurel] and we're not blind to it. We knew people would think, in the season where Oliver and Felicity get engaged and Laurel dies, that's clearly making a choice about who's going to end up with who. We told the Laurel/Oliver romance story in season one. We never really thought about going back to it. [Fans rooting for them] was not an element or a factor for us."
MG: "We recognize that that upsets a lot of fans, particularly the comic book fans... In the comics, Dinah Lance and Oliver Queen are in a romance together in various iterations. To some people, that is considered canonical and iconic. We respect that, but at the same time, we've always made no bones about the fact that we are telling our own version of the Green Arrow mythos. ... But it made the most creative sense for us going forward despite the fact that we love Katie. Every time we've killed off a character on the show, it's really been for the affect on all the characters left behind."
MG: "Not getting a chance to work with Katie day in and day out is tempered by the fact that we now live in a world and universe where there is resurrection, parallel earths, time travel and flashbacks... We have all these different ways of keeping Katie in the Arrow-verse family. In fact, you will see her on an episode of Flash playing the Earth-2 version of Laurel Lance. Katie is reprising her role as Laurel of Earth-1 to be in Vixen season two. Death does not mean goodbye on any of these shows."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/arrow-laurel-dies-katie-cassidy-881297

Edited October 2, 2016 by tv echo

[Guest]

So when does s6 of Arrow start? S5 has been cancelled. Sorry everyone! 

[dtissagirl]

6 minutes ago, apinknightmare said:

Yeah, I think it would be difficult not to feel guilty over it regardless of the circumstances that led to what she did, but I'm just hoping she never breathes a word about making any kind of decision, and if she does then I want everyone around her to correct that line of thinking. 

Man, this is gonna make me miss Lyla super hardcore. Sigh. She'd be the perfect person to get Felicity through this.

[Guest]

Just now, dtissagirl said:

Man, this is gonna make me miss Lyla super hardcore. Sigh. She'd be the perfect person to get Felicity through this.

Exactly. And we could have had a female friendship which doesn't exist on the show. Haha, what a mess.

[Chaser]

18 minutes ago, JJ928 said:

So I'm gonna be odd man out here but I don't think KC being in episode 5x10 means she's back on a regular basis. I do think they could bring her in as Black Siren, who perhaps wasn't captured or escaped because of Flashpoint. I'm just gonna wait to see how Katie is billed on Wednesday. Until then, I do think she'll be in a couple Arrow eps (other than premier) but that's it. I'm honestly more worried about them giving Felicity an actual storyline this year. All of the vagueness doesn't instill any hope or confidence. 

I don't think she is back on the regular either. I think 5x10 is going to be her big appearance this season on the show (and MG quote above does make me wonder if it's BS). Otherwise, why not just talk about her being in 5x08. It's the big 100th episode and the crossover. My guess, based on everything they are fitting in the crossover and her only getting to VanCity on the 6th, that's a cameo appearance. 

I will say that I like that she isn't appearing in 5x09 because that's supposed to be more of an Arrow 100th episode per MG

[EmilyBettFan]

So sick to death that big characters like Felicity and Diggle are being treated this way.

[JJ928]

10 minutes ago, Chaser said:

I don't think she is back on the regular either. I think 5x10 is going to be her big appearance this season on the show (and MG quote above does make me wonder if it's BS). Otherwise, why not just talk about her being in 5x08. It's the big 100th episode and the crossover. My guess, based on everything they are fitting in the crossover and her only getting to VanCity on the 6th, that's a cameo appearance. 

I will say that I like that she isn't appearing in 5x09 because that's supposed to be more of an Arrow 100th episode per MG

Agreed. I do think these people have been blowing a lot of smoke not only to the LL fandom but Felicity & Diggle's as well, in hopes of hiding the fact that there is either something big (doubtful) or not much for the characters people ask for. I do think they're reacting to the negative response to the newbies, but since theses people are not media savvy and have horrible rep, they continue to just shoot themselves in the foot. 

[Chaser]

Ugh. I reread the quote and she says the 'episodes - 5x10 definitely' does sound like mutiple appearances. I still don't think they are bringing her back but sounds like we will see her repeatedly in 5B. 

This is a bad spoiler day. I wonder if MG or one of the writers will make another Twitter appearance. 

[tv echo]

Edited October 2, 2016 by tv echo

[Lily-n11]

English is not my first language so I was wondering: What is the difference between Susanna Thomson "returning" to Arrow and KC will be "featured"? Does that give any hints on how big their appearances will be?

Regarding KC's number of appearances this season on Arrow: I always expected to see the picture of doom on the very last flashback episode again. Since it was suppose to be such a big thing in his first year on the island and in the pilot, it would be weird if they ignored it. If they hadn't nixed LOLiver I think that picture would have showed up quite a lot throughout the flashback years.

So far I have not seen much talk about Quentin Lance but I expect him to get a flashback episode this year. Showing us how he dealt with Sara's death after the Gambit in comparison to how he is dealing with LL's death in present time. Clearly LL would be in those flashbacks.

Other than that I hope her 3-show-deal is mostly dealt with on the other 2 shows.

Edited October 2, 2016 by Lily-n11

[apinknightmare]

5 minutes ago, Chaser said:

Ugh. I reread the quote and she says the 'episodes - 5x10 definitely' does sound like mutiple appearances. I still don't think they are bringing her back but sounds like we will see her repeatedly in 5B. 

Well, with WM confirming she's in 5x10, it is episodeS now. She's also in the premiere. 

[tv echo]

She's also in 508 (100th episode).

[spartan]

it's official, LAUREL LANCE IS ALIVE, maybe black siren or black canary, but she is in 510 on ARROW, YESSSSSSS

[Chaser]

You're right. If you consider the other episodes, it works. Im back to thinking 5x10 is her big appearance. 

Sigh. I'm on this whole30 food thing and doing it during premiere week is not good for you. I need wine with these spoilers. 

3 minutes ago, spartan said:

it's official, LAUREL LANCE IS ALIVE, maybe black siren or black canary, but she is in 510 on ARROW, YESSSSSSS

I expected you sooner. I'm a little disappointed. 

[dtissagirl]

But hey, if Black Siren hits on Oliver, it will be WORTH IT for the biggest case of Involuntary Constipated Face modern medicine will ever witness.

[Belinea]

So basically if you came prepared to a gun fight you would have a chance otherwise you wouldn't. Is that what is being said about 5x01?

[looptab]

[Chaser]

5 minutes ago, dtissagirl said:

But hey, if Black Siren hits on Oliver, it will be WORTH IT for the biggest case of Involuntary Constipated Face modern medicine will ever witness.

It gets bonus points if Olicity is getting married and BS tries to crash. Sooo meta .

[Chaser]

Fandom life is funny.

We find out about the BF months ago...Screencap is released...What?!

KC is announced with a deal in July....Episode confirmation...What?!

Tho the KC return freak out I contribute to the wording. I think if it was worded like 'KC is coming back for 5x10 in a really cool and interesting way that is true to the crazy universe Arrow lives in' it wouldn't have gotten the response it did. Instead it's like 'She is coming back ALIVE and WELL and hey flashpoint'.

[tarotx]

WM is also the one that called Olicty as ambiguous. I think she's the one causing the fandom issues. And she didn't even say Laurel coming back was Flashpoint related, she said it might have a little bit to do with it. Fun times. I think she's trying to pacify fandoms. And it's not working.

Edited October 2, 2016 by tarotx

[Chaser]

Who's 'he'? It looks like WM said it.

You know, the last two hiatus were great but the show didn't follow through. Maybe the fact that this one is so iffy is a good sign. Lol

[Ophanim]

Catching up the spoilers... wow, so.much.is.happening. And not good stuff. Dead are alive again, such a SURPRISE! *not*. I hate when show uses reset button and I think we have reset with Flashpoint. They can do what ever they want now. Including re-make/remodel some emotional stuff with certain characters. 

[dtissagirl]

I honestly don't believe showrunners answering direct questions to a journo are thinking about fandom as much as fandom think they are.

[tarotx]

9 minutes ago, Chaser said:

Who's 'he'? It looks like WM said it.

You know, the last two hiatus were great but the show didn't follow through. Maybe the fact that this one is so iffy is a good sign. Lol

 

I typed really fast and forgot the s....

[tv echo]

What I think about the latest spoilers (and why I like Laura Hurley)...

[Belinea]

Nobody saw that one coming ;-) But isn't it wonderful the the writers/producers found a way to be able to change the storyline of four shows. 

[Morrigan2575]

4 hours ago, Chaser said:

It just occurred to me she said KC was coming back, but she never said Laurel was. Maybe Flashpoint released BS and that's who comes to SC.

My initial thoughts are that she's talking about KC appearing in 508 as either AU Laurel or Matrix Laurel. 510 being a bit Flashpoint related could mean BS or possibly another version of BC.

That's what she means by alive and well, not that Laurel is going to be alive on Arrow again but some other version will show up and then get shunted off screen, back to whatever AU they brought her over from.