Spoiler Discussion Thread

[catrox14]

Im glad it got spoiled about his mayoral run. Now I can prepare myself for really not wanting to watch a good portion of plot. Ugh- I am so over politics right now. :/ But on the upside he'll be in suits again :)

I'm actually getting a little nervous that I won't know what to do with a more happier & balanced OQ. I'm used to the broken emotionally damaged man, i can deal with his bullshit but he might be gone at least in present day. Needless to say I'm having a lil trepidation about the new OQ.

 

Heh, I feel your pain. I have that same problem with Dean Winchester. I rather liked my broken messed up Oliver Queen.

[foreverevolving]

Hawkeye is Marvel's version of Green Arrow...they'd never use it.

LOL! totally forgot about that.

[BkWurm1]

...That is not her ending at all. Hee.

You made me have to go and look it up!

Still a big nope (and talk about fan fiction, lol). I liked the other incarnation of Tess's new moniker too much to have him replaced.

I rather liked my broken messed up Oliver Queen.

I'm so ready for a non broken one because not only will seeing Oliver be happy make me swoon, but I think being less broken = less stupid. I am so ready for that.

[tv echo]

Maybe Oliver runs for Mayor but loses to Jessica Danforth, who becomes the new Mayor.  In the process, he discovers city corruption that goes all the way to the top - with Damien Darhk essentially controlling the city.  The only way he can fight back is by becoming a vigilante again - this time as the GA.  Maybe Quentin also discovers corruption in the top ranks of the police force, his insubordination gets him busted down to beat cop, and he is forced to seek Oliver's help since they're both fighting the same corruption.  (Shades of Batman/Gotham.)

 

As for Jessica's daughter, I have some additional theories:

 

• Madision does not die but says something inspiring or enlightening to Oliver that leads him to enter politics.  She's a childhood friend of Oliver and Thea, and knew Oliver before he became a spoiled playboy (before Laurel).  She knew him to his bones as a child.

 

• Madison is DD's child. Jessica obeys DD either through love or fear.

 

• Madison is Felicity's younger half-sister.  Their mutual father works for DD. Also another way that DD controls Jessica.

Edited August 29, 2015 by tv echo

[Chaser]

Maybe its not the daughter that dies but Jessica. She dies protecting her daughter ala Moira Queen. Before leaving town Madison asks Oliver to step up and run for both their mothers.

[dtissagirl]

This casting notice from earlier this month on Deadline has interesting wording re: Jeri Ryan:

 

http://deadline.com/2015/08/jeri-ryan-cast-bosch-hugh-dancy-the-way-1201491365/

 

Body Of Proof and Shark alum Jeri Ryan has booked a multi-episode arc on Amazon’s drama series Bosch. She will play Veronica Allen, a former stripper who married a prolific porn producer and now lives in luxury, turning a blind eye to her husband’s constant philandering. Bosch is a police procedural based on Michael Connelly‘s novels about a veteran homicide detective with the Los Angeles Police Department. Ryan, who recently wrapped a stint on the CW’s Arrow and recurs on TNT’s Major Crimes, is repped by ICM and Kyle Fritz Management.

 

 

"Wrapped" implies she's done with Arrow.

[tv echo]

10Eleven12's theory is looking more likely now.

Edited August 29, 2015 by tv echo

[tv echo]

Something's coming...

Suzanne Gomez ‏@Chico6
#Arrow and #Supernatural goodies going out next week. And yes,#Arrow peeps, I mean in addition to the #YearoftheDiggle awesomeness.
9:40 PM - 28 Aug 2015

https://twitter.com/Chico6/status/637484976926146561

Edited August 29, 2015 by tv echo

[kismet]

Since they just finished shooting 404, I'm guessing that Rutina appears in 405 or 406?

https://twitter.com/ArrowProdOffice/status/637407297380200448

Usually i dont speculate about this - but is rutina pregnant or is that just a really awkward angle/outfit? Just curious if that impacted their timing issues. Perhaps she could only do certain stunts for a certain amount of time. Sorry this has nothing to do with Arrow, unless of course her possible pregnancy is being written in.

[kismet]

Maybe Oliver runs for Mayor but loses to Jessica Danforth, who becomes the new Mayor.  In the process, he discovers city corruption that goes all the way to the top - with Damien Darhk essentially controlling the city.  The only way he can fight back is by becoming a vigilante again - this time as the GA.  Maybe Quentin also discovers corruption in the top ranks of the police force, his insubordination gets him busted down to beat cop, and he is forced to seek Oliver's help since they're both fighting the same corruption.  (Shades of Batman/Gotham.)

 

As for Jessica's daughter, I have some additional theories:

 

• Madision does not die but says something inspiring or enlightening to Oliver that leads him to enter politics.  She's a childhood friend of Oliver and Thea, and knew Oliver before he became a spoiled playboy (before Laurel).  She knew him to his bones as a child.

 

• Madison is DD's child. Jessica obeys DD either through love or fear.

 

• Madison is Felicity's younger half-sister.  Their mutual father works for DD. Also another way that DD controls Jessica.

  

TVEcho, you are making this whole mayoral thing sound better. It might actually work. DD being this girls father might work. I don't mind if she is half sibling to any of the cast. But if she is DDs kid then I don't want her being a half sibling to FS (don't think DD as FS father is the right direction to the show). I wonder if they could make Madison a cousin to Queen, from the Dearden side. If Jessica does die then perhaps that loosens some more money & assets to Oliver/Thea. Would also give reason for the Queens to be invested in Madison without going sibling route.

Maybe its not the daughter that dies but Jessica. She dies protecting her daughter ala Moira Queen. Before leaving town Madison asks Oliver to step up and run for both their mothers.

I think this is highly likely. I believe that either Jessica or Madison is gonna die to help inspire OQ again. From dtissagirl's post it seems like Jeri Ryan is moving on, so her death seems more likely. Although maybe they'll have a double homicide, that would be a new twist on the writers' death to inspire trope.

[foreverevolving]

so.. fidgeting another female character to inspire Oliver's journey? fun.. (note my sarcastic tone)

[Sunshine]

Maybe Madison isn't related to anyone.  Anarchy is the villain introduced in this episode IIRC.  Perhaps they just needed a young attractive woman to get involved with him?  One Anarchy could get to Jessica Danforth through.  She'll do anything to save her daughter.  It doesn't necessarily mean death. From a political standpoint what is the best way to bring someone down?  Corrupt them.  This could lead to Oliver deciding to run since he's not easily intimidated. 

 

Call me cynical but if the daughter was going to be more than a minor casting I think a casting call would have leaked.

Edited August 29, 2015 by Sunshine

[dtissagirl]

Yeah, I worry that making death the motivation for Oliver agreeing to be the Mayoral candidate turns THAT storyline into his burden. They just got rid of hero-ing as a burden. I agree with @Sunshine, I'd rather Jessica Danforth steps down from the campaign because DD and his minions have dirt on her and/or the daughter.

[AyChihuahua]

From a political standpoint what is the best way to bring someone down?  Corrupt them.  This could lead to Oliver deciding to run since he's not easily intimidated.

I don't really agree with that. All a villain would have to do is threaten to give Thea a papercut and Oliver would do ANYTHING, ANYTHING, to KEEP HER SAFE (aka drop out of the race RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND).

[jay741982]

I don't really agree with that. All a villain would have to do is threaten to give Thea a papercut and Oliver would do ANYTHING, ANYTHING, to KEEP HER SAFE (aka drop out of the race RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND).

LOL her AND Felicity

[Sunshine]

I don't really agree with that. All a villain would have to do is threaten to give Thea a papercut and Oliver would do ANYTHING, ANYTHING, to KEEP HER SAFE (aka drop out of the race RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND).

Ha! Definitely truth in that statement.  If they don't know his alter ego though it would be a different story.  I just think more emphasis has been placed on the daughter than the spoiler deserves.  Someone could die.  I am just tired of death as the motivation for everything and looking for alternatives. 

[kismet]

Sadly, I don't trust the writers to be over their death as motivation/inspiration tendencies.

 

I might be over it and hoping for them to be more creative, but I don't think they feel the same way. Fingers crossed they understand the words lighter tone & balanced, and are not just throwing fancy words that appease the masses.

[apinknightmare]

 

 

Does he approve of her more than he approves of the Green Arrow?

Yes, because that’s his daughter, and he will forgive her more easily than he ever would the Green Arrow. But of course, ultimately for Lance, it’s all about his daughters and the city, and if this Green Arrow person starts seemingly good doing for the city, then that’s going to test Lance’s will there. So, we’ll see.

 

Bleh. Quentin getting angrier at Oliver than Laurel for keeping Sara's death a secret continues to be INCREDIBLY STUPID, and that he's still on it this season is even more stupid.

[kismet]

Does he approve of her more than he approves of the Green Arrow?

Yes, because that’s his daughter, and he will forgive her more easily than he ever would the Green Arrow. But of course, ultimately for Lance, it’s all about his daughters and the city, and if this Green Arrow person starts seemingly good doing for the city, then that’s going to test Lance’s will there. So, we’ll see.

Bleh. Quentin getting angrier at Oliver than Laurel for keeping Sara's death a secret continues to be INCREDIBLY STUPID, and that he's still on it this season is even more stupid.

I hope that quote & reference have nothing to do with the secret of SL's death. I feel like he might have been talking more in general terms of GA & his daughter's vigilante hobbies which is someways goes against his code. I think he is talking more about his approval of their crusade & activities as a whole. I don't believe his is referencing the secret keeping at all. I think a lot of QL's anger in s3 was misdirected grief, I think it was also residual anger from OQ putting his daughters in the position to be hurt in the first place. If it wasn't for OQ, SL would probably have never been part of the LoA & therefore in danger.

 

Its realistic that QL would forgive his daughter's actions easier than OQ, afterall its his daughter & people tend to have a blindside for family IRL & on TV. That being said, I hope they drop the lying to QL vendetta/grudge moving fwd. The lying to him was wrong in the first place for it to have ever happened. And frankly, I don't want to have to spend another season with QL in a bad place with TA.

 

Loved that he asked which daughter to the color question... it was classic. Actually, I loved every answer. They were slightly cheeky - which is great. I really want QL to have a good season this year. His character was run through the mud for plot last year and that needs to not happen again.

Edited August 30, 2015 by kismet

[apinknightmare]

I hope that quote & reference have nothing to do with the secret of SL's death. I feel like he might have been talking more in general terms of GA & his daughter's vigilante hobbies which is someways goes against his code. I think he is talking more about his approval of their crusade & activities as a whole. I don't believe his is referencing the secret keeping at all. I think a lot of QL's anger in s3 was misdirected grief, I think it was also residual anger from OQ putting his daughters in the position to be hurt in the first place. If it wasn't for OQ, SL would probably have never been part of the LoA & therefore in danger.

 

If he's talking about the Sara secret, then I still think it's stupid, and if he's talking about approving of Laurel's vigilantism over Green Arrow's, then he's a freaking hypocrite. Neither one of those options make him look particularly good at all. And I know that QL's anger was misdirected grief, but it will always, always be stupid to me that he got angrier at Oliver/Arrow for keeping the secret than he ever did at Laurel. BECAUSE SHE DRESSED UP AS HER SISTER AND PRETENDED TO BE HER TO TRICK HIM INTO THINKING SHE WAS STILL ALIVE.

[Chaser]

I'm wondering if Lance isn't going to be played the fool again this season. I got a buddy-buddy vibe when he was talking about the interactions with DD. If added to the speculation that DD may be involved in bringing Sara back from the dead and I can't help but think Lance is going to be in trouble.

 

I would actually think Lance would be more angry at Laurel then Oliver. Laurel is family and Queen isn't. 

[apinknightmare]

I would actually think Lance would be more angry at Laurel then Oliver. Laurel is family and Queen isn't. 

 

He should be angry at Dinah for letting her get on the boat. Be should be angry at Sara for going back into the League when she had an out. He should be angry at himself for standing on the dock and waving at her as she got on the boat to Nanda Parbat like she was going back to freaking summer camp. The anger at Oliver for the Gambit and the aftermath is played out at this point, seriously. 

Edited August 30, 2015 by apinknightmare

[Guest]

I am shocked, truly shocked that Lance is okay with Laurel now.

 

JFC must Oliver pay for everyone's sins? Yawn.

[wonderwall]

I was over the Lance family drama from the beginning of S2...

 

... And now I'm just getting ridiculously annoyed that the writers are still going for it. I mean... I think that this is the first time I wish for QL to die to end the family drama  considering the other option isn't possible.

 

What I hate about it is that it has no effect on advancing the SL/plot. Also the Lance family drama doesn't even advance characterization. On the contrary, I feel like the characters involved in said drama suffer because said drama makes said characters all look like assholes. So really, there is no purpose for all of this drama and yet we have to sit through it every god damn season -_- (and yes, I include QL being pissed at Oliver as Lance family drama. B/c let's be real, he wouldn't be pissed off at Oliver if Oliver never had that history with his daughters). 

 

ETA: I may be bitter and I did make a one hyperbolic statement :p I wonder if you can tell which one it is. 

Edited August 30, 2015 by wonderwall

[EmilyBettFan]

Both of the two annoying Lance's can die. Quentin and Laurel. She really doesn't serve any purpose to Oliver's story. Quentin and Laurel just piss me off.

[kismet]

If he's talking about the Sara secret, then I still think it's stupid, and if he's talking about approving of Laurel's vigilantism over Green Arrow's, then he's a freaking hypocrite. Neither one of those options make him look particularly good at all. And I know that QL's anger was misdirected grief, but it will always, always be stupid to me that he got angrier at Oliver/Arrow for keeping the secret than he ever did at Laurel. BECAUSE SHE DRESSED UP AS HER SISTER AND PRETENDED TO BE HER TO TRICK HIM INTO THINKING SHE WAS STILL ALIVE.

 

I never saw him as more angry at OQ than LL. I think he was royally pissed at both of them. In fact, it seemed he was more angry with LL from my opinion. He just had the opportunity to show more of it to OQ. There is also a lot less to lose in his relationship with OQ than with LL. At the end of the day, LL is the only family he has left. SL is dead (until this s4), Dinah has swore him off. His cop partner died in s1, leaving him without many friends/partners. So unless he wants to be 100% alone & without a family, he has to somehow find a way to make something work with LL. Whereas with OQ, it can be good riddance. LL may be horrible & did horrible things, but at the end of the day she is family & its hard to just write off family, esp for a man so devoted to his daughters.

 

As for the vigilantism, LL has never outright killed someone that wasn't self-defense. OQ has killed people for justice & in cold-blood. So maybe that is how he can justify supporting one slightly more than the other.

I'm wondering if Lance isn't going to be played the fool again this season. I got a buddy-buddy vibe when he was talking about the interactions with DD. If added to the speculation that DD may be involved in bringing Sara back from the dead and I can't help but think Lance is going to be in trouble.

 

I would actually think Lance would be more angry at Laurel then Oliver. Laurel is family and Queen isn't. 

Part of me, is worried about this. Although I would love to see DD have a hand in SL's resurrection as one of his soldiers, but really not be part of the Lance drama. Perhaps QL will have to strike a bargain to get her out of his clutches. But I think that's just wishful thinking at this point.

Edited August 30, 2015 by kismet

[statsgirl]

 

But of course, ultimately for Lance, it’s all about his daughters and the city, and if this Green Arrow person starts seemingly good doing for the city, then that’s going to test Lance’s will there. So, we’ll see.

Going for the other opinion, that sounds to me like he's going to accept Oliver when he finds out he's good for the city, as he did when he phoned Felicity at the end of 3x23 to save Oliver.

 

Of course he's going to forgive Laurel more easily, she's his daughter, but it does seem like he's going to reluctantly forgive Oliver fairly soon into the season.

 

And if he goes against everything and with Laurel puts Sara into the LP, he's not really going to have a moral leg to stand on.

[dtissagirl]

If Lance is DD's Butt Monkey, I think it makes more sense that Lance's pro-vigilante [again] now, because that's how unknowingly working for the enemy storylines usually go.

 

I'm really really REALLY curious about this Lance-DD thing. They seem to be spending a lot of time together.

[apinknightmare]

Going for the other opinion, that sounds to me like he's going to accept Oliver when he finds out he's good for the city, as he did when he phoned Felicity at the end of 3x23 to save Oliver.

 

Of course he's going to forgive Laurel more easily, she's his daughter, but it does seem like he's going to reluctantly forgive Oliver fairly soon into the season.

 

IDK, him accepting the Green Arrow is meaningless to me at this point. Quentin disavowed vigilantism, then worked with vigilantes, then disavowed it again (but turned a blind, if disapproving eye to his own daughter doing it). Why would anyone trust being in his good graces? He could just as easily turn on them all again (except for Laurel). He hated the vigilante/Hood, but then he was okay with him once he saw him doing good, but then turned on him again because he was easily swayed by an imposter. He never believed that Roy was the Arrow - he knows it was Oliver - so why would seeing the Green Arrow (who he will also probably know is Oliver) doing good make him moving back to the vigilante side of things any different than before? He's already been there. Done that. Reversed his stance. Lather, rinse, repeat.

 

That was enough to sour me on Quentin, but then when he punched Oliver for saying that he loved the Lances? After he saved or had a hand in saving Laurel how many times? I know he was supposed to be irrationally angry with grief, but I'm tired of Oliver being his target. I'm really tired of Oliver being his target.

Edited August 31, 2015 by apinknightmare

[AyChihuahua]

He also did at least a 160 at the end of the season when he called Felicity to save Oliver. So it's YET ANOTHER switch if he's after them again. I mean, QL needs to die in a fire, but I can't figure out how these EPs are so unaware of what they're writing.

[statsgirl]

Maybe he's back in the "I don't want to know so I can stay neutral" corner again, and the new Lady Cop character is the one pushing the anti-vigilante task force and Quentin is sitting back, the way Joe sat back when Eddie pushed for the anti-Flash task force.

 

If DD is pulling the strings of the SCPD, plot-wise they really don't need Quentin to be anti-Arrow any more.

[BkWurm1]

He also did at least a 160 at the end of the season when he called Felicity to save Oliver. So it's YET ANOTHER switch if he's after them again. I mean, QL needs to die in a fire, but I can't figure out how these EPs are so unaware of what they're writing.

As angry as Quentin was at Oliver, he doesn't want him dead.  

 

Chances are that he'll accept vigilante help when it is delivered but he will not be involved (directly) with it like he had been last year where he actually had come to see Oliver as his partner.  I really hope QL does NOT die.   All last season did was make me feel more for the man.  I am hoping he will be forced to work one on one with Oliver and that they regain something of what was lost.  At least the respect.  It hurt seeing Quentin feeling so alone but it also hurt to see Oliver feel like he'd lost another father figure.  

[tv echo]

Quentin forgiving Laurel more easily than Oliver is understandable since he loves his daughter and doesn't care for Oliver.  It's also in character.  Quentin has been shown to be an enabler of Laurel's bending if not breaking the law in the past.

[apinknightmare]

I don't care who he forgives about the lie first, because of course that's going to be Laurel (even though...meh to that, but whatever). I am going to be irritated if he's still got issues with some vigilante behavior, but not that of his daughter. I'm basically tired of the ally/adversarial swap they've got going on with Quentin. It does his character no favors - it makes him both a hypocrite and an idiot, which would be fine if it was a jumping off point for character growth, but it's not.

[Carrie Ann]

Yep, they need to shut down Quentin's vendetta for the Arrow if they ever want him to be sympathetic again. When he chose not to turn Laurel in, that was the point of no return. You can't have him complicit in Laurel's activities while still going after Oliver. If they need the threat of authorities hanging over TA's heads, then give Quentin a superior who wants to lock up all vigilantes--heck, make that person secretly tied to the Big Bad in some way--and let Lance just be the silent partner of Team Arrow. We don't need the same tired story for years on end, especially when it renders his character weak and hypocritical, and requires the stunting of his growth. No more plot-required character trashing please--I'm letting go of the stuff from S3, but it needs to stop in S4. 

[AyChihuahua]

As angry as Quentin was at Oliver, he doesn't want him dead.  

 

Chances are that he'll accept vigilante help when it is delivered but he will not be involved (directly) with it like he had been last year where he actually had come to see Oliver as his partner.  I really hope QL does NOT die.   All last season did was make me feel more for the man.  I am hoping he will be forced to work one on one with Oliver and that they regain something of what was lost.  At least the respect.  It hurt seeing Quentin feeling so alone but it also hurt to see Oliver feel like he'd lost another father figure.  

What would have happened to Oliver in prison?  He would 100% have been killed, Quentin knew that and didn't care.

[kismet]

We don't need the same tired story for years on end, especially when it renders his character weak and hypocritical, and requires the stunting of his growth. No more plot-required character trashing please--I'm letting go of the stuff from S3, but it needs to stop in S4. 

Gotta admit.. I too am in the process of letting go when it comes to s3. I'm having a big mental bonfire of all the bullshit & "for PLOT!" twisting of characters they did. Some days the process feels like something straight outta a movie with fabulous visuals, a music track and everything.

 

Must say though I'm getting very high hopes for DD's character from all the spoilers, esp the most recent one about him not being a public persona but still crashing events. I am very intrigued about how he will play out. He feels like the perfect villain and its been awhile since we've had on of those on ARROW. Fingers crossed they don't let me down. I like complicated and complex characters - but honestly I just want a straight up malevolent & evil badguy. I want to love to hate him. I want there to be - No redemption for him. No intricate codes that change on a weekly basis. No allegiances to old friends/family. He can be twisty & manipulating, but in the end all for himself & his legacy.

[dtissagirl]

Please let DD have an alias like Damon Blahck, or something equally as dumb.

[Carrie Ann]

Lucius Light.

[kismet]

I think he should be ballsy enough to just keep his real name as his alias. He's probably not hiding, since he's not on the run from anybody. Why not have people fear his own name? He's probably like the great mobsters through the years - responsible for everything, but nothing can stick to them because they have their minions do everything for them.

[dtissagirl]

Lucius Light.

 

Literal LOL. <3

[AyChihuahua]

He wasn't hiding when he booked a whole hotel floor under his real name. 

I admit, if I weren't so incredibly disappointed and pissed off at the horribleness of S3, I'd be excited about a lot of what I'm hearing for S4.  (Also, I trust Guggie precisely zero.)

[kismet]

This is gonna sound petty... But I'm bummed that Coast City is going to be part of the Arrowverse because it has the same abbreviations as Central City. I am very partial to abbreviations (its an occupational hazard), but I wish we got a different city if only for abbreviation purposes. I know its a silly complaint.

 

That being said I am dying for the s4 trailer if only so we can figure out if Coast City is just present day, flashback or some combination.

[BunsenBurner]

@kismet. How about +C?

[AyChihuahua]

I think Guggie's doing his usual jerkwad teasing with all the Green Lantern references.  I'll be very surprised if DC gives Arrow permission to use him.

[BkWurm1]

What would have happened to Oliver in prison?  He would 100% have been killed, Quentin knew that and didn't care.

I didn't get that telegraphed at all. 

 

@kismet. How about +C?

Another suggestion for a Coast City abbreviation.  How about CoC.  Think of it at the town version of Jennifer B vs Jennifer T in school.  Ashley H vs Ashley P, R, W and Z (There were A LOT of Ashleys) 

I think Guggie's doing his usual jerkwad teasing with all the Green Lantern references.  I'll be very surprised if DC gives Arrow permission to use him.

Which is such a shame since they set it up so that they could use him in the FB and that he was currently missing and the missing status could have just gone on and on meaning they didn't need to actually in show use the GL, but just Hal Jordan.  Set up the friendship in the past as something the fans would know they could rekindle in the future. I'm still hoping maybe they will still wear down the DC people and get some kind of brief interaction toward the end of the season at least.  It would be a shame if they laid all this ground work and nothing came of it.  I guess the alternative is to meet people who know him but not him directly. 

[apinknightmare]

MG gave an interview over the summer where he said that Green Lantern wouldn't be appearing in the show, but that there would still be GL easter eggs around, like Ferris Air, etc. I'm sure that billboard is part of it. 

[AyChihuahua]

I didn't get that telegraphed at all. 

 

Which is such a shame since they set it up so that they could use him in the FB and that he was currently missing and the missing status could have just gone on and on meaning they didn't need to actually in show use the GL, but just Hal Jordan.  Set up the friendship in the past as something the fans would know they could rekindle in the future. I'm still hoping maybe they will still wear down the DC people and get some kind of brief interaction toward the end of the season at least.  It would be a shame if they laid all this ground work and nothing came of it.  I guess the alternative is to meet people who know him but not him directly.

Re Oliver being killed in jail/prison, it's just common sense. He put half those people there. Quentin himself was nearly killed in jail, and of course Roy was attacked for real before he was fake-killed. Oliver as the Arrow wouldn't have lasted a week and Quentin obviously didn't care, since he was trying very hard to put him there.

Re GL, I mean, I could always be wrong. I just don't see them having the budget for GL. Maybe Hal Jordan pre-powers, but isn't Guggie one of the people who totally screwed up the movie? It's famously bad, so I'd be somewhat surprised if they gave the same people another shot with the character.

[statsgirl]

To be honest, while not good, I thought the Green Lantern movie was better than Nolan's Batman movies, especially when Carol told Hal "I've known you all my life, putting on a mask isn't going to make you anonymous".  The Nolan movies required too much suspension of disbelief to keep me from snarking through them.

 

There's a better chance of the Green Lantern showing up since they're not going to make another GL movie in the near future.

 

I'm really bummed that it's going to be called Star City.  Stupid name.  Stupid fanservice.  kicks rocks

[tangerine95]

I hope they never use Hal Jordan or GL ,Arrow really doesn't need a big comic book name eating up screen time.And if they use him but don't give him powers the comic canon people will never stop complaining.Like with Oliver's kid likely not being Connor Hawke,they couldn't handle that.

Ugh I hate the name too,I know it's a small thing but it's really annoying to me.Starling sounds so much better.