Jaclyn & Ryan R

[shopper73]

It seems the underlying theme of the experiment is examining the push-pull nature of relationships for both sexes. Who is pursuing? Who is resistant? In Jaclyn's and Ryan's case, it seems to have switched already from the wedding. See the interview on the move with them.

In Courtney and Jason it switched at the end.

Of course in Sean and Davian's case, Sean was pursuing but stopped sometime during the honeymoon.

[moonxyz]

If they are still together, I really doubt they live in the same house, unless one of the changed jobs. 

[HumblePi]

I'm not happy with any of the 3 couples the so-called 'experts' have chosen for this season. I don't think any of them are good for each other. Ryan is okay, barely....but those teeth. What's up with those?  Are they dentures? Does he need a gum reduction? Why are they so odd looking?  He seems like a nice enough guy if a woman get get past those teeth and somehow disconnect him from his momma's apron strings. Jaclyn has a cute figure but she should try to tone down that bodacious personality. She needs to get rid of some of the leopard obsession along with some of the 'stripper-on-her-day-off' wardrobe. If she softened up a little bit and not be so harsh looking or acting, she might even be likeable.

 

As I said, I don't like any of the 3 couples and I think they're all doomed.

[HumblePi]

Perhaps part of the "social experiment" this time included seeing if the couples would resolve logistical hurdles like distance.  I can't imagine that the experts didn't realize that pairing Ryan and Jaclyn and Sean and Davina would create an additional obstacle given that both couples included people who specified that they could not relocate.  Maybe they didn't want to be hampered by compromising the quality of the match based on logistical issues.  They might have thought that the couples should have hit it off so well that distance would feel like a minor issue.  But like the point I made in another post, logistical issues like distance can hamper even the best of matches from getting off the ground.  Why didn't the experts realize this?  Again, some experts they are.....

I had also thought that same thing, that these 'experts' could have chosen people that wouldn't have that almost insurmountable hurdle of pulling up their roots to move 3 hours away from their jobs. That was just plain stupid for them to do. Ryan is a real estate agent and how convenient is it to be 3 hours away in Queens when he has to show some homes in Stony Brook, Long Island? And Jacyln will have to commute to New Jersey for her job and pay a lot of money in tolls every day. I tell you, these experts couldn't have possibly made it any more difficult for two people to survive those obstacles even if they were truly in love when they got married.

[JAndy]

So...who here has tried Tito's Vodka? I heard that Jaclyn may work for the company that produces it, but I'm not sure since she's been keeping it on the downlow *sarcasm*

I have never heard of Titos until this show.

[PityFree]

I have never heard of Titos until this show.

Makes me wonder how much $$ Tito's Vodka is paying the show for the product placement. 

[harmonic42]

Jaclyn is starting to become more human, but she's still proudly wearing the banner of "I'm so hard to win over, that I deserve an award for actually falling for this guy." We get it, Jaclyn, you're strong and centered. These are great qualities, but you shove it in Ryan's face, and in the viewers' faces, how privileged anyone should be to actually get your attention. That's how it comes off. I'd HATE to be involved with a woman like that - having to expend an exhausting amount of energy just to get her attention or affection. It's lopsided and imbalanced.

[fabdarling]

I hear what you're saying, but I haven't seen Ryan jump through any hoops. I think he's just being himself and that's winning her over. He didn't change any of his Christmas traditions, while she was really engaged with his family - we didn't see him interact with hers at all.

I didn't like that she ordered for him, but back then they were just adjusting to each other.

I like these two together....I think they have stuff to teach each other. :-)

[red12]

Makes me wonder how much $$ Tito's Vodka is paying the show for the product placement.

Tito's vodka is actually very good. I believe it is produced in Austin, Tx. I typically order Belvedere or Kettle One, but order Tito's if it's available.

[Snarklepuss]

Hey now, two of my friends are former strippers and they both have better taste than Jaclyn.

 

LOL,  I had to laugh when she dissed that fugly bag like it was soooo much worse than her taste.

[Snarklepuss]

I hear what you're saying, but I haven't seen Ryan jump through any hoops. I think he's just being himself and that's winning her over. He didn't change any of his Christmas traditions, while she was really engaged with his family - we didn't see him interact with hers at all.

I didn't like that she ordered for him, but back then they were just adjusting to each other.

I like these two together....I think they have stuff to teach each other. :-)

 

Have we seen Jaclyn's family at all?  If we have it was so long ago I've forgotten it.  They haven't been participating in this so I wouldn't be so quick to blame Ryan's lack of visiting them on him.  I think Ryan is trying to play his cards right with Jessica and not be too pushy as to scare her away.  It's not that he's not into Jessica, it's that he knows that she could go either way and better to let her choose him than for him to pursue her.  Just be there and be himself is all he needs to do.  I think he's got the exact right formula.  He is open to it happening if it's in the cards.  Whether he returns the feeling or not depends largely on whether she chooses him and how he feels about it after it happens.  He's a very wise man for his age, IMO!

[CindyBee]

Jaclyn's sister and baby nephew were in the last episode so her family hasn't been totally MIA;  maybe the footage is just too "normal" to be added to the show so that's why the producers have gone more with the Ryan/MamaRyan/Kayla story line.   

 

Looking forward to tonight's episode to see just how busy Jaclyn is keeping Ryan now that she has discovered sex again!

[molshoop]

 

LOL,  I had to laugh when she dissed that fugly bag like it was soooo much worse than her taste.

 

       It was the leopard print hair dryer that got to me. 

[JapMo]

 

I think Jaclyn is kind of laying it on thick in terms of her falling in love with Ryan. I could see myself behaving the same way, to convince myself, if I had married a stranger I didn't like and had to live with him for six weeks. I'm not sure if they'll stay together in the long run. When you put yourself in a situation as crazy as this one on national television, I think that you'll be very motivated to try to make it work.

 

Oh, absolutely. No one wants to be the one that couldn't make it work. Whether they work or not, I find Jaclyn's behavior irritating. She's constantly laughing suggestively and IMO teasing the guy. If she really doesn't find him attractive, she shouldn't be doing that.

[moonxyz]

Glad I'm not the only one that sees the light when it comes to Jaclyn.

Now Ryan R is the complete opposite of his wife. He seems to just be going through the motions. Very lais back. Too laid back or maybe I'm just used to the other crazies on the show? 

[JAndy]

Glad I'm not the only one that sees the light when it comes to Jaclyn.

Now Ryan R is the complete opposite of his wife. He seems to just be going through the motions. Very lais back. Too laid back or maybe I'm just used to the other crazies on the show?

My husband is laid back in that manner as well. Sometimes it seems like nothing phases him and he talks all calm and slow. Not slow in a bad way, just like in that same tone. I need that because I'm more hyped up and into things. So that's what I see in Jaclyn and Ryan. He helps to balance out her upbeat personality.

[girlplease]

I thought they were so cute tonight. Squee!

[Snarklepuss]

I thought they were cute too, but if Jaclyn hadn't gone on and on about how she "sees Ryan differently now" and Ryan hadn't admitted they'd consummated the relationship, I'd never know it.  I was hoping to see a little more evidence of closeness between them but I really didn't feel it.

[CindyBee]

They are cute together and at least when Jaclyn & Ryan are on I don't have the urge to reach for the remote and hit fast forward so I guess that's a good thing.   

[JAndy]

I've noticed that they are the only ones this season who say "I want to make my marriage work". The other 2 couples usually say stuff about the "experiment". So I think that's a good thing for them.

[molshoop]

Jaclyn beat out Jamie in the "I'm not into him at all"....."I want to have his baby" race.

I really like Ryan R.  He is one of the good guys that aren't easy to find.  I have my problems with Jaclyn, but he seems very happy with her,so I really hope it works out for them.

[Snarklepuss]

One thing I found interesting is finding out that Ryan's mom was 41 when she had him.  If he grew up in a family of older people I think that's one reason why he might have grown up to resemble guys more in my own age bracket than his own.  This whole time there's been something about him that's reminded me of so many guys I knew growing up in NY, and now I think I have some idea of why.  His values and outlook are very reminiscent of my own and those of my friends at his age.  I actually find it very refreshing.

[CindyBee]

Ryan posted a pic on instagram awhile back that showed him in his childhood with his much older siblings so he did grow up in a house full of older folks so that may be why he seems older.

The preview clip where he tells Jaclyn's family that he is struggling with being homesick makes me think that he wasn't ready for marriage but I still think they have a shot. I'm Pollyanna-ish sometimes!

[girlplease]

It seems like they've both come around to each other, but one thing I do notice (that I've noticed with all the couples, actually) is that they don't have good eye contact.

[Bella]

It seems like they've both come around to each other, but one thing I do notice (that I've noticed with all the couples, actually) is that they don't have good eye contact.

 

I've noticed that, too, and it really disturbs me. It could be a situation of always facing the cameras when they're around, but I don't like it.

 

I'm not totally sold that they'll make it, but I'm giving them much better odds than the other two couples.

[Pepper Mostly]

I thought they were cute too, but if Jaclyn hadn't gone on and on about how she "sees Ryan differently now" and Ryan hadn't admitted they'd consummated the relationship, I'd never know it.  I was hoping to see a little more evidence of closeness between them but I really didn't feel it.

I tend to ignore a lot of the talking head stuff since I know there's a producer there asking leading questions and using a lot of charged language. Same with the eye contact. I think that they're self conscious with the cameras around and they keep glancing that way. I have high hopes for them. I think Jaclyn is cute and funny, and just the shot in the arm that laid back Ryan needs. I think they're adorable together!

[ElectricCityy]

They are really cute on Twitter. I think they are still together.

[JapMo]

 

I've noticed that they are the only ones this season who say "I want to make my marriage work". The other 2 couples usually say stuff about the "experiment". So I think that's a good thing for them.

 

But then they yammer on and on about being in/out of the Friend Zone. That's even worse for me. People on this site call them "adorable". That's the last thing I see. Oil and water is more like it. I like Jaclyn but man is she "on". It's tiresome. Ryan's constant references to their sex life is sleazy IMO.

[SaucyMommy]

I don't really like them as a couple either. Jaclyn is super annoying to me and her interest in Ryan feels forced.

[JapMo]

 

I don't really like them as a couple either. Jaclyn is super annoying to me and her interest in Ryan feels forced.

 

Got to love her for trying so hard, but I feel the same way that she really doesn't have feelings for him. Many times opposites attract, but in her case she needs someone who is at least in the game. Ryan seems perfectly content to blend in with the potted palms. Also, I question his true feelings. His compliments last night just didn't ring true to me. Did anyone else feel that way? He tells her she's the best person he's ever known...something like that. She was totally taken aback by that. Touching, yes, but really? A person you've known for 17 days? It would be one thing if we have seen that puppydog idolization that Doug had/has for Jamie, but I haven't seen that from him.

[Bella]

I think he's uncomfortable on camera, quite frankly. That may be something they have in common: she's over-acting for the camera because she's not comfortable, and he comes across as flat because he's not comfortable.

 

It could even be a bonding point.

J: "Wow, I thought they'd never leave."

RR: "Me, either. They're just up in your face all the time."

J: "And the producer questions are so dumb."

RR: "I know. I hate having to repeat myself when they tell me I'm too nasal. If they didn't like the way I talk, they shouldn't have cast me."

etc., etc., etc.

[moonxyz]

In the first episode, Ryan said he met women at casinos but in the "Moving in" episode, he said he was a saver. I hope I'm not confusing him with anyone else but I'm pretty sure he said this. I don't know what a self admitted saver would do in a casino.

[Bella]

In the first episode, Ryan said he met women at casinos but in the "Moving in" episode, he said he was a saver. I hope I'm not confusing him with anyone else but I'm pretty sure he said this. I don't know what a self admitted saver would do in a casino.

 

Drink? Hang out with gambling friends? Take in $25 to gamble and stop when it's gone? While I'm certainly not promoting or endorsing gambling, I do think it's possible to do it on a small scale without harming oneself. 

[Janet Snakehole]

He may go with friends and watch them gamble and get free drinks at the table. I have done that a few times.

Or what Bella said!

Edited April 30, 2015 by Janet Snakehole

[humbleopinion]

Definitely believe the producers are prompting them to reinterate their emotional talking points, ad naseum.

Ryan's attachment to his mother and neice, his reluctance to move away from them and his work.

Jacklyn's not finding Mr. Right.

 

Can see these two becoming friends with no benefits after the show if it doesn't work out.

Well adjusted adults aren't that exciting to watch.

[Snarklepuss]

I know a lot of people who go to the casinos purely for a social life, especially young single people who go to clubs there to meet people.  The casinos around here are loaded with restaurants and clubs and other night time entertainment venues.

[JapMo]

 

In the first episode, Ryan said he met women at casinos but in the "Moving in" episode, he said he was a saver. I hope I'm not confusing him with anyone else but I'm pretty sure he said this. I don't know what a self admitted saver would do in a casino.

 

I worked in casinos for nearly a decade. A lot of people go to the casino for a night out. They spend maybe $100, drink a little, play Blackjack, lose it all and are fine about it. If a single guy comes in, they might check out the cute girls and try to sit with them at a table, strike up a conversation, but I never saw any of them leave together. Most women are not interested in finding a date there. They just want to play slots or table games. The casino is what you want it to be. People who are lonely will come, sit in front of a slot machine and play for hours. Some people come and listen to the music and drink. It's the perception that if you go to a casino, you will become addicted. It definitely happens, but in Ryan's case I peg him for someone that plays $100-$200, sits at a table because he thinks he understands how to play (they all do....hardly anyone really is a good player) and shoots the sh*t with the dealer.

[shopper73]

When they were out to dinner, Ryan told Jessica he felt he had really grown as a person thanks to knowing her and the experiment, whatever the eventual outcome. She seemed really touched and did not seem to get that he was saying he wasn't sure about them staying together, while she is already thinking about their next New Year.

[moonxyz]

http://www.aetv.com/married-at-first-sight/video/one-step-forward-one-step-back

 

Funny how "Behind the scenes" is showing much more tension between these two. I knew and said that editing is painting them as the "Golden couple" but there is much more going on here. Ultimately, if they stay together, Ryan's family is going to move in. 

[CindyBee]

When they were out to dinner, Ryan told Jessica he felt he had really grown as a person thanks to knowing her and the experiment, whatever the eventual outcome. She seemed really touched and did not seem to get that he was saying he wasn't sure about them staying together, while she is already thinking about their next New Year.

 

You mean Jaclyn?   Yeah, she's starting to plan their post 6 week life but he's already started to pul back, which is understandable since one minute she wants to be friends and the next it seems like she's all in.   Got to be confusing for Ryan.

 

And agree that the exclusive clips have been very revealing with just how much Ryan is struggling with everything than what A&E/FYI have been showing though the preview clip for next week's episode shows him voicing dislike for being away from Mom/Kayla and if he can handle Jaclyn's personality.

Edited April 30, 2015 by CindyBee

[humbleopinion]

His bread and butter is selling RE in the area so I don't see the problem with him dropping in often enough/daily to help mom and niece.

 

But his comments at their NYE dinner hint that the marriage as a long term arrangement hasn't been decided yet.

His heartfelt comments about Jacklyn was the gentlemanly thing to say and a signal to her that if she wants to end it then"no harm, no foul."

He and Jacklyn are not on the same time line for a baby so that may be a deal breaker.

That will keep me watching the show even though the other 2 couples are becoming intolerable.

[JAndy]

His bread and butter is selling RE in the area so I don't see the problem with him dropping in often enough/daily to help mom and niece.

But his comments at their NYE dinner hint that the marriage as a long term arrangement hasn't been decided yet.

His heartfelt comments about Jacklyn was the gentlemanly thing to say and a signal to her that if she wants to end it then"no harm, no foul."

He and Jacklyn are not on the same time line for a baby so that may be a deal breaker.

That will keep me watching the show even though the other 2 couples are becoming intolerable.

But I mean they have known each other for 2 (3?) weeks at this point. Should they even be talking about babies? they both want kids so that's at least a start. IF they stay together I think that the baby thing can be spoken about again at a later date. After maybe they have been married for a year.

[humbleopinion]

In the living room scene with R+J, Jacklyn's sister, bf talking about the time line for a baby, Jacklyn is definitely on the fast track and Ryan wants to save and plan, be more fiscally prepared.

Having just gotten out of the twilight zone (refuse to type the over used "f-zone" phrase) any baby talk is woefully premature at this point of their relationship so I think this is another intervention by a M@FS producer to spice up the story line.

[Bella]

Finding out if someone wants kids is important because if one of you strongly does and the other strongly does not, that's a huge problem. But timelines? Yeah, that can wait.

[JapMo]

 

In the living room scene with R+J, Jacklyn's sister, bf talking about the time line for a baby, Jacklyn is definitely on the fast track and Ryan wants to save and plan, be more fiscally prepared.

Having just gotten out of the twilight zone (refuse to type the over used "f-zone" phrase) any baby talk is woefully premature at this point of their relationship so I think this is another intervention by a M@FS producer to spice up the story line.

 

Oh thank you Humbleopinion...I don't think I can take the "f-z" phrase again, either.

[CindyBee]

Finding out if someone wants kids is important because if one of you strongly does and the other strongly does not, that's a huge problem. But timelines? Yeah, that can wait.

 

Yeah the talk to when to start their family can wait but at least they both want kids.  I know someone who just had to end a relationship over incompatibility on kids--she wants, he doesn't.  

[Trixie Belden]

I think one of Ryan's concerns is his mother's age and how her death will affect his niece.  He seems the most likely to take custody of her and I see him taking the responsibility for his aging mother and orphaned niece seriously, it's not just him being "homesick", I think he worries a lot about them.  When he thinks about adding children, with a woman he's known less than a month, he's being smart to pump the brakes on that conversation.  Jaclyn has baby fever and Ryan is thinking "I already have a family I'm taking care of, a baby is too much too soon".  I could see them working out, but she would have to know that it's probably going to include his mom and niece as their family unit.  One of them is going to HAVE to move and change jobs.

 

On the other hand, if Jaclyn is taking this seriously as a marriage and not an experiment or gateway to a showbiz career, a hypothetical discussion about children is entirely appropriate.  At her age, knowing that magic number of 35 comes up quick, I get her not wanting to wait 5-6 years to start trying to get pregnant.

[Meri MJE]

I think the two have the best shot of any group in the shows history.

They are complimentary to each other and Jaclyn seems like a cool girl.

I have to ask, not to pick on the spelling, but to understand for sure what you mean. Did you mean "compliment" as in saying something kind to someone, or "complement" as in fitting well together?  Couples who complement seem to do the best, one is strong where the other is weak, they bring out the best in each other, etc.

I think they are the "Jamie and Doug" of  Season Two except that Doug really was already an adult man before he married Jamie. Ryan is, age-wise, an adult, but getting him out from under (literally! I couldn't believe someone actually lives in a mother's basement :)) his Mother, who wants him on her apron strings probably until she dies, will be a challenge. I really think these two can have a sweet life together. She is outgoing and louder but has a definite sweet side and it will be good to have her in Ryan's niece's life as well.

 

That was ... wow, the fact that his niece was orphaned, just so sad. But he can be present in her life without giving up his chance for a family and love for himself. I don't see much standing in the way of a real, happy life for these two unless they for some reason stop making good choices. I like that they actually DO know what "compromise" means and have done it. No clue why the "experts" forgot to look at a map before setting them up, but hey, they found a place that will hopefully work, so good for them. :0)

[shopper73]

I have to ask, not to pick on the spelling, but to understand for sure what you mean. Did you mean "compliment" as in saying something kind to someone, or "complement" as in fitting well together? Couples who complement seem to do the best, one is strong where the other is weak, they bring out the best in each other, etc.

I think they are the "Jamie and Doug" of Season Two except that Doug really was already an adult man before he married Jamie. Ryan is, age-wise, an adult, but getting him out from under (literally! I couldn't believe someone actually lives in a mother's basement :)) his Mother, who wants him on her apron strings probably until she dies, will be a challenge. I really think these two can have a sweet life together. She is outgoing and louder but has a definite sweet side and it will be good to have her in Ryan's niece's life as well.

That was ... wow, the fact that his niece was orphaned, just so sad. But he can be present in her life without giving up his chance for a family and love for himself. I don't see much standing in the way of a real, happy life for these two unless they for some reason stop making good choices. I like that they actually DO know what "compromise" means and have done it. No clue why the "experts" forgot to look at a map before setting them up, but hey, they found a place that will hopefully work, so good for them. :0)

I agree, I don't see why he can't pursue his own life and be there for his mom and niece. His niece really only has a few years before she will be looking at college, and everyone has their parents eventually......it is unfair to ask him to live with them at the expense of his own life. Eventually his mom could move in with him. His other brothers could also step up more. It is totally unfair to put it all on Ryan's shoulders.

[Meri MJE]

I think she's very pretty without all that make-up. Of course I don't wear any, so I believe most women are.

Make up is bad for ur skin. And in her case, it seems to age her.

WHAT is this new bizarre obsession with fighting over women who wear makeup v women who do not? I keep seeing this all over the internet and it's so strange! What a weird thing to be such a big deal. I will tell you a story about make-up being GOOD for skin though, since you said it isn't.

 

I, before becoming disabled and it being less of an issue for me, was a girl - probably because my Mom wore it, my Grandmother etc - who for a few years would not leave the house without "my face on".  I would get teased for wearing make-up skiing or camping and it hurt my feelings, but i blew it off.

 

The best day EVER was on a ski trip in Colorado, and I was with a church group so the mean girls were a bit of a surprise. "Why are you wearing makeup to ski, that's weird!". Long story short, if you ski, you know about the dreaded wind burn. After that 1st night, all those girls were whining and begging for ice packs, putting spoons on their burned eyelids (no clue why) and asking me why i wasn't sunburned. I wish i hadn't been so nice some times :) But yeah, the sun & wind did not get through my foundation and powder and I was the only one who wasn't hurtin' that night!  The only way makeup is bad for the skin is if it is not washed off - several of the girls on this show have bad acne and I think they aren't washing their faces well at night and in the morning. I don't remember J having bad skin, just those brows! (I'm getting ahead of myself)

 

Now i am 46 and no one believes me. And I'm shocked at how old the girls who were WAY behind me in school look old, it is just massive sun damage, and mostly to the face. I don't have wrinkles because makeup (and taking it off at night, washing one's face properly, etc) is a layer between your skin and the sun.

 

It is always funny when a guy will say "Oh I hate makeup" but then they see us without it on and "Whoa, what happened to you?!".

 

Jacklyn doesn't look 29, I was really surprised about that. And I don't think she had too much on - her problem is really clear. EYEBROWS. Make-up is an art, so is eyebrow plucking. Jacklyn's look like film stars of the 1930s (Google Jean Harlow, hers werethe worst and look so much like Jacklyn's!!) I just want to grab her and take away her tweezers and show her how to pencil in a natural looking arch :)

 

But I really give zero sh#*s about looks, at the end of the day. Looks fade, and they will, but who a person is inside matters. How many people with beautiful faces who have are cruel or sarcastic keep looking good after you know them a while? The same with the opposite, someone can not seem attractive at first glance, but a warm, positive personality somehow can make a person positively breath-taking.

 

Sorry i never could settle on one spelling of makeup or make-up, that is bugging the heck out of me :0)

If they are still together, I really doubt they live in the same house, unless one of the changed jobs. 

What is Davina's job? She seems pretty into money and all about how fab NYC is. He can more than likely get a job at a closer hospital or in a doc's office, but I can't tell if it is that or the fact that Manhatan is giving him anxiety.

 

And from someone who was bullied as a kid and teen? Get over it. I had to, no one wants to hear that stuff once our hair has turned silver :0)