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S02.E01: Visions of Vietnamese


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I am not sure I want to sit down at a sub shop but I knew they were going to pick the Lone Wolf.  I'd prefer to see Rice, Paper, Scissors.

 

As for Antonia, she was just reciting the same lines that Waylann used to have.  Hope she adds something different soon since I liked her on Top Chef.

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Wow, that Phillip was one of the snottiest contestants ever.  Serious dislike for that asshat.

And while Antonio correctly pointed out the disjoint between using a Chinese Kung Pao pork on a Vietnamese Banh Mi sandwich, why did nobody clue into the fact that the Kimchi on the fries is KOREAN!  Hello, do they just think that all "Asian" stuff is the same?

Huge mistake picking those two.  She's a doormat

LOVE Antonio as the consultant this season.  SO much better than Waylynn.

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Guess I'm in the minority here, but I didn't have any issues with Philip. All good chefs have an ego, and I think he had a right to stick by his food. And what was with Joe and Tim's fixation on having him make a traditional Banh Mi, when clearly it was never his intention or interest to present classic Vietnamese food? Chefs borrow an element of a particular ethnic cuisine and do riffs on it all the time. Is it because there's no place in Tulsa that makes a traditional Banh Mi? I would find that hard to believe, but even so, it's not like he has some kind of responsibility to educate the public.

 

Similarly, I didn't get Antonia criticizing Philip for using Chinese Kung Pao pork in a Vietnamese sandwich. I mean, she's a chef in LA, a place where it seems like half the restaurants (including many of the most popular) are "fusion" between two or more kinds of cuisines. And often not even as closely related as Chinese and Vietnamese. (Latin sushi anyone?)

 

That was actually the first time I ever watched an episode of this show from start to finish. I thought the weird thing about the show is the sit down at the end, where Joe and Tim rattle off their business terms, and the contestants are supposed to listen and then make this potentially life changing decision off the tops of their heads. Is that for real? In what universe do you make a business decision without seeing the terms on paper, and without having a chance to carefully calculate the numbers? (And probably seeking the advice of an accountant or lawyer). So I think that the real negotiation (if there is one) must take place off camera.

 

Just off the top of my own head, what both Tim and Joe proposed sounded like horrible deals. You would be much better off with a conventional business loan.

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Bluepiano, I compare this show to Shark Tank. Same concept, essentially. You come in, try to get someone to invest in your business, and if you don't like their offer you've still gotten exposure on television that you'd never get otherwise. I had the impression from the start that Phillip Phillips (not the singer, HA) was never going to allow either Tim or Joe to be his boss for any period of time. He wants to run the show, him and him alone. I don't buy that the wife is a 50/50 partner when the cameras are off.
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And while Antonio correctly pointed out the disjoint between using a Chinese Kung Pao pork on a Vietnamese Banh Mi sandwich, why did nobody clue into the fact that the Kimchi on the fries is KOREAN!  Hello, do they just think that all "Asian" stuff is the same?

Thank you--that really annoyed me. This asshat has no place calling anything he makes Vietnamese other than -inspired or fusion, but they didn't do that on any of their signage. All he had was the wolf which he insisted look dark and brooding to make up for dreams of being in a band or something.

 

I would have preferred seeing Rock, Paper, Scissors, too because everything about them was fresher. It's too bad they didn't have their numbers together.

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When asshat Phillip shut down his wife's logo choice and said, listen to me, it's this one, I started rooting for his wife to stick to her guns. No surprise, she caved, as I'm sure she does on a regular basis. I wish her all the luck in her continuing role as the lesser half of that sky. I suppose it's just a matter of time before Irvine or Ching show up to save their place and hammer Phillip that he has to listen to her.

 

The lone wolf may be unfazed, but again, couldn't Joe or Tim have hired a finance person for Rock, Paper, Scissors?

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I finally got around to watching this show, & it was just meh IMO. I'll probably keep watching it just because it's on when I have nothing else to watch, it's background noise.

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Tim and Joe could have mentored and hired a finance person for the Rice, Paper, Scissors pair. Lone Wolf was a lone wolf and wasn't going to listen to anyone. I'm convinced he was picked purely for the drama, not because his restaurant would have been a good one. 

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Jeez, this episode was a complete waste of time. This dude was not going to accept any offer, nor would he ever let anyone tell him what to do. Yet, we went through the whole process....essentially a charade of a show.

 

Those two young women would have at least listened to advice.

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